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Thoughts on HOTD Episode Ten: "The Black Queen"

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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri May 17, 2019 6:26 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I am so very very happy to be born at just the right point in history to be able to experience this great show as the miracle and masterpiece that it is

And I truly hope that the finale will maintain that standard

It’s been a most excellent ride and I’m glad to be able to see history literally being remade in these 9 or so years


If you think of it this way, it's a shame how much S7 and S8 were rushed. If they weren't, everyone would remember this show as a timeless masterpiece. Instead, many will be like "it's great but it gets bad during the final episodes".

It's still an impressive achievement and nothing even comes close in television but the latter parts of the story should have been told in a slower manner.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri May 17, 2019 6:27 am

This show is so very very good that when it all ends I think I might get emotional and cry for several nights

It is truly one of the most beautiful things to ever grace the television

There are just so many moments, D and D and Martin have truly created something Great
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri May 17, 2019 6:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:This show is so very very good that when it all ends I think I might get emotional and cry for several nights

It is truly one of the most beautiful things to ever grace the television

There are just so many moments, D and D and Martin have truly created something Great


What I like about this show is that it has many filler scenes that don't appear in the books (e.g: Your first kill convo between Robert amd Jaimie, the chaos is a laddah convo) but they are so well-written you don't even realize they are fillers.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri May 17, 2019 6:33 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:This show is so very very good that when it all ends I think I might get emotional and cry for several nights

It is truly one of the most beautiful things to ever grace the television

There are just so many moments, D and D and Martin have truly created something Great


What I like about this show is that it has many filler scenes that don't appear in the books (e.g: Your first kill convo between Robert amd Jaimie, the chaos is a laddah convo) but they are so well-written you don't even realize they are fillers.


I agree

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Jaime and Alton’s conversations

Baelish Varys conversations

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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 17, 2019 6:33 am

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Usually what we see from the failed artists, they inevitably become art critics

Low blow Tarsonis. :p


I'd feel bad if it wasn't so historically accurate.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 17, 2019 6:44 am

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Ethel mermania wrote:It's not art created when you are high?

High art is the opposite of low art. Whilst Low art is art made for the masses, and often has a utility purpose/function and is of lower value compared to high art which is made for more limited audiences with more refined taste and artistic and aesthetic contemplation, is of higher value both financially and culturally and where artists are supposedly at their peak with little to no constraints, allowing them to reach their full potential.

Its basically art for arts sake, its something more than just made for entertainment which would be "low art" and was more challenging to make and was made to be unique etc etc

As far as i am concerned after 4 years in an art university its a load of pretentious bollocks most cases.

Which means that Game Of Thrones, a television show with a target demographic in the millions, is low art. Pretty much everything on television is, whether it's good or bad.


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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 17, 2019 6:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:High art is the opposite of low art. Whilst Low art is art made for the masses, and often has a utility purpose/function and is of lower value compared to high art which is made for more limited audiences with more refined taste and artistic and aesthetic contemplation, is of higher value both financially and culturally and where artists are supposedly at their peak with little to no constraints, allowing them to reach their full potential.

Its basically art for arts sake, its something more than just made for entertainment which would be "low art" and was more challenging to make and was made to be unique etc etc

As far as i am concerned after 4 years in an art university its a load of pretentious bollocks most cases.

Which means that Game Of Thrones, a television show with a target demographic in the millions, is low art. Pretty much everything on television is, whether it's good or bad.

Yup, and therein lies the reason for my disbelief at IM's remark that GoT is "high art".
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Postby Andsed » Fri May 17, 2019 6:53 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Which means that Game Of Thrones, a television show with a target demographic in the millions, is low art. Pretty much everything on television is, whether it's good or bad.

Yup, and therein lies the reason for my disbelief at IM's remark that GoT is "high art".

Honestly these ideas of high and low art just feels like a pretentious concept used by people to dismiss stuff they don’t like.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri May 17, 2019 7:31 am

Apparently the final episode got leaked, and against my better judgement I read it.

I wont be watching the final episode, I cant put myself through it.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 17, 2019 7:35 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Apparently the final episode got leaked, and against my better judgement I read it.

I wont be watching the final episode, I cant put myself through it.

Dew it
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri May 17, 2019 8:05 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Apparently the final episode got leaked, and against my better judgement I read it.

I wont be watching the final episode, I cant put myself through it.

Dew it

No, its awful, it shouldn't be watched. The episode was not meant for human consumption. >:(
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri May 17, 2019 8:29 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Apparently the final episode got leaked, and against my better judgement I read it.

I wont be watching the final episode, I cant put myself through it.

Drogon finally fully understanding his full powers, says to himself "fuck this shit" and burns everything down, mommy and jon both see what is happening and try and stop him, when he turns them both into cheese snacks and eats them both. The final scene is drogon sitting on the iron throne picking his teeth clean with Benioff and Weiss's bones, contemplating changing his name to Smaug......

Camera fades out.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 17, 2019 8:32 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Apparently the final episode got leaked, and against my better judgement I read it.

I wont be watching the final episode, I cant put myself through it.

Drogon finally fully understanding his full powers, says to himself "fuck this shit" and burns everything down, mommy and jon both see what is happening and try and stop him, when he turns them both into cheese snacks and eats them both. The final scene is drogon sitting on the iron throne picking his teeth clean with Benioff and Weiss's bones, contemplating changing his name to Smaug......

Camera fades out.

And just when you think its over, a new hero emerges

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri May 17, 2019 8:56 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Apparently the final episode got leaked, and against my better judgement I read it.

I wont be watching the final episode, I cant put myself through it.

Drogon finally fully understanding his full powers, says to himself "fuck this shit" and burns everything down, mommy and jon both see what is happening and try and stop him, when he turns them both into cheese snacks and eats them both. The final scene is drogon sitting on the iron throne picking his teeth clean with Benioff and Weiss's bones, contemplating changing his name to Smaug......

Camera fades out.

A better ending then what is in the final episode. Truth be told.
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Postby Baltenstein » Fri May 17, 2019 8:59 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Apparently the final episode got leaked, and against my better judgement I read it.

I wont be watching the final episode, I cant put myself through it.

Drogon finally fully understanding his full powers, says to himself "fuck this shit" and burns everything down, mommy and jon both see what is happening and try and stop him, when he turns them both into cheese snacks and eats them both. The final scene is drogon sitting on the iron throne picking his teeth clean with Benioff and Weiss's bones, contemplating changing his name to Smaug......

Camera fades out.


EXTRA PLOT TWIST

After the credits roll, we see Drogon pulling off his face - and it was actually Arya this whole time.
"Valar Morghulis."
Cue Faceless Men theme.
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Postby Auristania » Fri May 17, 2019 9:51 am

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Infected Mushroom wrote:I am so very very happy to be born at just the right point in history to be able to experience this great show as the miracle and masterpiece that it is

And I truly hope that the finale will maintain that standard

It’s been a most excellent ride and I’m glad to be able to see history literally being remade in these 9 or so years


If you think of it this way, it's a shame how much S7 and S8 were rushed. If they weren't, everyone would remember this show as a timeless masterpiece. Instead, many will be like "it's great but it gets bad during the final episodes".

It's still an impressive achievement and nothing even comes close in television but the latter parts of the story should have been told in a slower manner.

Exactly and perfectly so. Finaleitis has reduced the quality, but GoT is still the bestest show on TV.

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Postby Auristania » Fri May 17, 2019 9:54 am

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Baltenstein wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Drogon finally fully understanding his full powers, says to himself "fuck this shit" and burns everything down, mommy and jon both see what is happening and try and stop him, when he turns them both into cheese snacks and eats them both. The final scene is drogon sitting on the iron throne picking his teeth clean with Benioff and Weiss's bones, contemplating changing his name to Smaug......

Camera fades out.


EXTRA PLOT TWIST

After the credits roll, we see Drogon pulling off his face - and it was actually Arya this whole time.
"Valar Morghulis."
Cue Faceless Men theme.

:bow: :rofl: :kiss: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 17, 2019 9:58 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Drogon finally fully understanding his full powers, says to himself "fuck this shit" and burns everything down, mommy and jon both see what is happening and try and stop him, when he turns them both into cheese snacks and eats them both. The final scene is drogon sitting on the iron throne picking his teeth clean with Benioff and Weiss's bones, contemplating changing his name to Smaug......

Camera fades out.


EXTRA PLOT TWIST

After the credits roll, we see Drogon pulling off his face - and it was actually Arya this whole time.
"Valar Morghulis."
Cue Faceless Men theme.


...then whose running around with Arya’s face?
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Postby Andsed » Fri May 17, 2019 10:00 am

Auristania wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
If you think of it this way, it's a shame how much S7 and S8 were rushed. If they weren't, everyone would remember this show as a timeless masterpiece. Instead, many will be like "it's great but it gets bad during the final episodes".

It's still an impressive achievement and nothing even comes close in television but the latter parts of the story should have been told in a slower manner.

Exactly and perfectly so. Final season has reduced the quality, but GoT is still the best show on TV.

Haha no.
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri May 17, 2019 10:37 am

Andsed wrote:Haha no.


Game of Thrones isn't the best show on HBO.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 17, 2019 10:38 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Andsed wrote:Haha no.


Game of Thrones isn't the best show on HBO.

What is?
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri May 17, 2019 10:43 am

Tarsonis wrote:What is?


Barry get's my vote. I've watched every episode this season and haven't once said "this is fucking stupid."
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri May 17, 2019 10:49 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:What is?


Barry get's my vote. I've watched every episode this season and haven't once said "this is fucking stupid."


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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri May 17, 2019 10:57 am

Tarsonis wrote:The Gay gangsters have worn on me.


Yeah giving the fun background guys too much exposure is a pretty common mistake but I've been able to forgive them thusfar.
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