Hundreds quarantined for measles in 2 CA universities.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

Remember the ebola scare. Don't let the media do the thinking for you.
I'm not going to debate an issue with emotionally charged people.

I only feel it fair to point out this though, it is up to you to come to your own conclusions.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/politics ... index.html
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-nav ... and-germs/

A US navy ship is probably the highest rate (~100%) of vaccinations. These guys are subjected to the full cocktail of boosters, etc. How come they are starting to get sick?
This is food for thought, I do not, and will not, debate over whether we should persecute people for refusing a corporate product.

The ‘emotionally charged people’ are the Anti-vaxxers, not sane rational people.

Smallpox has been eradicated globally due to vaccines and Polio could be next. Just look at any statistics on disease cases before and after implementation of vaccination programs, and you’ll see how small they are compared to what they were.

And Vaccines aren’t a corporate product like Pepsi, they’re a medicinal miracle and the single greatest advancement in human history.

Anti-vaxxers just makes my blood turn into plasma.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The ‘emotionally charged people’ are the Anti-vaxxers, not sane rational people.

Smallpox has been eradicated globally due to vaccines and Polio could be next. Just look at any statistics on disease cases before and after implementation of vaccination programs, and you’ll see how small they are compared to what they were.

And Vaccines aren’t a corporate product like Pepsi, they’re a medicinal miracle and the single greatest advancement in human history.

Anti-vaxxers just makes my blood turn into plasma.

Why are you in favour of a healthier society?

[The Free Joy State]

Children are impulsive (the adolescent brain does not finish maturing until 25)

Neuroscientists believe that the age of criminal responsibility is too low (bringing rationality into doubt).

Bandura's Bobo doll study showed how parents influence the behaviour of children, especially young ones -- bringing into doubt how "free" the will would be of any child living with anti-vaxxer parents.

We do not allow children to choose to do other things that have been shown to have a potentially harmful effect -- like smoking.

I'd guesstimate that, the more we know of neurological development, the stronger the case for protecting children against making harmful medical decisions -- and protecting them from dangerous pathogens -- will become.

I'm not in favour of a smoking age either though.

You are in an extreme minority. Most people don't want to have to wake a pre-schooler from naptime to tell them "I'm sorry, kiddo... it's lung cancer."

I'm pretty confident that laws that acknowledge the vulnerability of minors and protect them from harm are not going away. If anything, they will probably be toughened up.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

Anti-vaxxers just makes my blood turn into plasma.

Why are you in favour of a healthier society?

Common sense.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I'm not in favour of a smoking age either though.

You are in an extreme minority. Most people don't want to have to wake a pre-schooler from naptime to tell them "I'm sorry, kiddo... it's lung cancer."

I'm pretty confident that laws that acknowledge the vulnerability of minors and protect them from harm are not going away. If anything, they will probably be toughened up.

How are they vulnerable though? Yes they may be more impulsive, but a world with the most impulsive inhabitants empowered can only end up as a good thing.

[Icelandic Military Junta]

Why are you in favour of a healthier society?

Common sense.

Nah, clearly this outbreak preventable illnesses in the western world is a cause of random chance and not the fact that vaccines are good for society.

Therefore, Vaccines still bad

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

You are in an extreme minority. Most people don't want to have to wake a pre-schooler from naptime to tell them "I'm sorry, kiddo... it's lung cancer."

I'm pretty confident that laws that acknowledge the vulnerability of minors and protect them from harm are not going away. If anything, they will probably be toughened up.

How are they vulnerable though? Yes they may be more impulsive, but a world with the most impulsive inhabitants empowered can only end up as a good thing.

Yeah, it could. But the chance is like, what, 1 in a trillion? Greta Thunberg is just a prodigy, she's the exception, not the rule.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

Common sense.

Nah, clearly this outbreak preventable illnesses in the western world is a cause of random chance and not the fact that vaccines are good for society.

Therefore, Vaccines still bad

Shut your Trotskyite ass up or I'll gulag you.

[The Free Joy State]

You are in an extreme minority. Most people don't want to have to wake a pre-schooler from naptime to tell them "I'm sorry, kiddo... it's lung cancer."

I'm pretty confident that laws that acknowledge the vulnerability of minors and protect them from harm are not going away. If anything, they will probably be toughened up.

How are they vulnerable though? Yes they may be more impulsive, but a world with the most impulsive inhabitants empowered can only end up as a good thing.

Are you serious?

Children are smaller and physically weaker, meaning they can be harmed. They do not know right from wrong until about age seven, meaning that the unscrupulous can exploit them. They are more likely to be credulous and believe lies fed to them by people who do not have their best interests at heart (meaning that they can make poor decisions). Impulsivity can lead to them doing things that can cause irreparable damage to themselves or others.

We have laws to protect them against child marriage to protect them from being abused, laws to stop them smoking to prevent them damaging their bodies, laws to keep them out of the army to stop them seeing someone who looks cool in a uniform and going to get themselves killed.

These are all good laws. That you don't like them is just too fucking bad!

Adding mandatory vaccination of children would be another way to protect them from being killed or maimed before their life has begun, and while they are unfairly under the influence of their parents.

Children are children: small, immature and vulnerable, with sometimes faulty decision-making. Not smaller versions of adults.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

How are they vulnerable though? Yes they may be more impulsive, but a world with the most impulsive inhabitants empowered can only end up as a good thing.

Are you serious?

Children are smaller and physically weaker, meaning they can be harmed. They do not know right from wrong until about age seven, meaning that the unscrupulous can exploit them. They are more likely to be credulous and believe lies fed to them by people who do not have their best interests at heart (meaning that they can make poor decisions). Impulsivity can lead to them doing things that can cause irreparable damage to themselves or others.

We have laws to protect them against child marriage to protect them being abused, laws to stop them smoking to prevent them damaging their bodies, laws to keep them out of the army to stop them seeing someone who looks cool in a uniform and going to get themselves killed.

These are all good laws. That you don't like them is just too fucking bad!

Adding mandatory vaccination would be another way to protect them from being killed or maimed before their life has begun, and while they are unfairly under the influence of their parents.

Children are children: small, immature and vulnerable, with sometimes faulty decision-making. Not smaller versions of adults.

That's true. Even teenagers couldn't be trusted to make major decisions. The best thing that an 11 year old can do is to babysit or lying about their age in a discord server. The best thing that a 9 year old could do is to stan PewDiePie.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

How are they vulnerable though? Yes they may be more impulsive, but a world with the most impulsive inhabitants empowered can only end up as a good thing.

Are you serious?

Children are smaller and physically weaker, meaning they can be harmed. They do not know right from wrong until about age seven, meaning that the unscrupulous can exploit them. They are more likely to be credulous and believe lies fed to them by people who do not have their best interests at heart (meaning that they can make poor decisions). Impulsivity can lead to them doing things that can cause irreparable damage to themselves or others.

We have laws to protect them against child marriage to protect them from being abused, laws to stop them smoking to prevent them damaging their bodies, laws to keep them out of the army to stop them seeing someone who looks cool in a uniform and going to get themselves killed.

These are all good laws. That you don't like them is just too fucking bad!

Adding mandatory vaccination of children would be another way to protect them from being killed or maimed before their life has begun, and while they are unfairly under the influence of their parents.

Children are children: small, immature and vulnerable, with sometimes faulty decision-making. Not smaller versions of adults.

The empowerment of the human impulses, however, would lead to much better consequences in the long run. If we weren't taught to obsess over the effects of our decisions, for example, decisions could be made at a governmental level which completely changed or even ended the world.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

Are you serious?

Children are smaller and physically weaker, meaning they can be harmed. They do not know right from wrong until about age seven, meaning that the unscrupulous can exploit them. They are more likely to be credulous and believe lies fed to them by people who do not have their best interests at heart (meaning that they can make poor decisions). Impulsivity can lead to them doing things that can cause irreparable damage to themselves or others.

We have laws to protect them against child marriage to protect them from being abused, laws to stop them smoking to prevent them damaging their bodies, laws to keep them out of the army to stop them seeing someone who looks cool in a uniform and going to get themselves killed.

These are all good laws. That you don't like them is just too fucking bad!

Adding mandatory vaccination of children would be another way to protect them from being killed or maimed before their life has begun, and while they are unfairly under the influence of their parents.

Children are children: small, immature and vulnerable, with sometimes faulty decision-making. Not smaller versions of adults.

The empowerment of the human impulses, however, would lead to much better consequences in the long run. If we weren't taught to obsess over the effects of our decisions, for example, decisions could be made at a governmental level which completely changed or even ended the world.

Sounds like an 11 year old talking here... Stop lying about your age in NSG

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The empowerment of the human impulses, however, would lead to much better consequences in the long run. If we weren't taught to obsess over the effects of our decisions, for example, decisions could be made at a governmental level which completely changed or even ended the world.

Sounds like an 11 year old talking here... Stop lying about your age in NSG

If I'm 11, I joined ns when I was 1 year old (first nation created aug 08, 2009), and I am perhaps Britains youngest student, given I completed the final exam to hopefully graduate with a law degree two days ago. I'm 22.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

Sounds like an 11 year old talking here... Stop lying about your age in NSG

If I'm 11, I joined ns when I was 1 year old (first nation created aug 08, 2009), and I am perhaps Britains youngest student, given I completed the final exam to hopefully graduate with a law degree two days ago. I'm 22.

Ignorance is bliss. If you want to be happy for eternity, try ignorance.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

If I'm 11, I joined ns when I was 1 year old (first nation created aug 08, 2009), and I am perhaps Britains youngest student, given I completed the final exam to hopefully graduate with a law degree two days ago. I'm 22.

Ignorance is bliss. If you want to be happy for eternity, try ignorance.

Sadly I can't ignore some of the rubbish in society...

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

The ‘emotionally charged people’ are the Anti-vaxxers, not sane rational people.

Smallpox has been eradicated globally due to vaccines and Polio could be next. Just look at any statistics on disease cases before and after implementation of vaccination programs, and you’ll see how small they are compared to what they were.

And Vaccines aren’t a corporate product like Pepsi, they’re a medicinal miracle and the single greatest advancement in human history.

Anti-vaxxers just makes my blood turn into plasma.

The boring bodily fluid kind or the substantially more interesting nuclear fusion kind?

[The Free Joy State]

Are you serious?

Children are smaller and physically weaker, meaning they can be harmed. They do not know right from wrong until about age seven, meaning that the unscrupulous can exploit them. They are more likely to be credulous and believe lies fed to them by people who do not have their best interests at heart (meaning that they can make poor decisions). Impulsivity can lead to them doing things that can cause irreparable damage to themselves or others.

We have laws to protect them against child marriage to protect them from being abused, laws to stop them smoking to prevent them damaging their bodies, laws to keep them out of the army to stop them seeing someone who looks cool in a uniform and going to get themselves killed.

These are all good laws. That you don't like them is just too fucking bad!

Adding mandatory vaccination of children would be another way to protect them from being killed or maimed before their life has begun, and while they are unfairly under the influence of their parents.

Children are children: small, immature and vulnerable, with sometimes faulty decision-making. Not smaller versions of adults.

The empowerment of the human impulses, however, would lead to much better consequences in the long run. If we weren't taught to obsess over the effects of our decisions, for example, decisions could be made at a governmental level which completely changed or even ended the world.

The ending of the world is not a good thing.

Some impulses should never be embraced. There are people in this world with impulses to do the most dreadful things to other people -- should they release their vile impulses? Not worry about the consequences of their horrid actions?

Of course not!

We protect man from the actions that can be inflicted by man.

• That's why we have laws that can protect children from things that can harm them.
• That's why we have laws that protect adults from each other.
• That's why we vaccinate, and protect each other from those who incubate disease.

[Inkopolitia]

Sounds like an 11 year old talking here... Stop lying about your age in NSG

If I'm 11, I joined ns when I was 1 year old (first nation created aug 08, 2009), and I am perhaps Britains youngest student, given I completed the final exam to hopefully graduate with a law degree two days ago. I'm 22.

r/iamverysmart

[Neutraligon]

Ignorance is bliss. If you want to be happy for eternity, try ignorance.

Sadly I can't ignore some of the rubbish in society...

Don’t talk about the speck in other’s eyes while ignoring the plank in your own

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Sadly I can't ignore some of the rubbish in society...

Don’t talk about the speck in other’s eyes while ignoring the plank in your own

I don't think I've been talking rubbish in this thread

[Neutraligon]

Don’t talk about the speck in other’s eyes while ignoring the plank in your own

I don't think I've been talking rubbish in this thread

And I do.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Don’t talk about the speck in other’s eyes while ignoring the plank in your own

I don't think I've been talking rubbish in this thread

Of course you don't. If you did, you wouldn't admit it anyway.
I don't really have a stake in this issue, but I've gotta say that Neutraglion's assessment is pretty much in line with what I've seen of you elsewhere.

[Tetradimensional Overworld]

This issue and the global warming issue would give me 1000 warnings for flaming

[Thermodolia]

Sounds like an 11 year old talking here... Stop lying about your age in NSG

If I'm 11, I joined ns when I was 1 year old (first nation created aug 08, 2009), and I am perhaps Britains youngest student, given I completed the final exam to hopefully graduate with a law degree two days ago. I'm 22.

Wait your 22? Damn son I thought you where at least in your 30s

[Estanglia]

Some people are determined to see vaccines as bad and unnecessary.

And some people are determined to see vaccines as good and necessary

Because they are.

FTFY.

Anti-vaxxers hold a dangerous, minority view. A view that leads to the deaths and injury of their children, to the deaths and injury of those who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons, and weakens herd immunity for everyone else.

Yes some of us do hold a view that vaccines are dangerous. A thing that can kill thousands of people

Point us to the thousands of people killed by vaccines.

Thousands?

Vaccines are very well tolerated, and definitely better than the potentially fatal risks of diseases like measles.

Bring me evidence to prove otherwise. Official sources (government websites, health sources, medical journals), not eek-vaccines-will-kill-you.com

You say bring me evidence but then you restrict it to sources that will be from only one side...

Maybe there's a reason for that...

Like, oh, I don't know, most everyone who has even a shred of credibility knowing that vaccines don't kill?

Dude, vaccines are older than the government.

The agendas of the people in the government aren't

Ah yes, The Evil Health Agenda^TM!

Secretly plotting to save your kids since 1796!

Its kinda unfair its 1vs5 here, i cant think about all your points at the same time.

Maybe if anti-vaxers got as much funding as vaxers we could prove the truth to you with fancy sources, but that probably wont happen because people dont want to be wrong

Anyways i need to go, its getting late.

We already have the truth.