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Best HOI political party

HOI3 Stalinist
1
6%
HOI3 Leninist
0
No votes
KR Syndicalist
6
33%
KR Radical Socialism
2
11%
HOI4 Anarchism
3
17%
HOI4 Communism
1
6%
Stupid Sexy Naz with your unbiased polls and quality posts.
5
28%
 
Total votes : 18

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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Tue May 14, 2019 2:41 pm

The Transhuman Union wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
0/10, not 527

>:(


602*


What a boring, uneventful year. Hard pass.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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Vlach
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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Wed May 15, 2019 8:13 am

Romantic slut. Self-deprecating egotist. Benevolent communist.

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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Wed May 15, 2019 8:58 am

Romantic slut. Self-deprecating egotist. Benevolent communist.

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Ostroeuropa
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 15, 2019 10:49 am

Do I need to be this obsessive about integrating conquered people in Imperator?

Playing Suebia and I never use any policies except conversion ones until a province is completely Suebian and Tuestic, then i'll pop the Civilization one until it has no tribesmen, then the Social Mobility one.

Almost got the Germania Magna achievement, just colonization and one or two quick wars left.

Rome is looming at me and i'm looming back, currently we're carving up the Gauls between us. I'm tempted to throw out an Alliance to Carthage before taking them on, even though I suspect I wont need it.

Is making your people a majority culture in a province also okay? It feels dirty. :(

Currently around 60% Suebian Tuestic, 20% Gallic Tuestic, 20% Gallic Druidic. (Honorable mention to the Rhaetians, the small Latin Druidic tribe.).

Berlin is a silly place. It's got 100 slaves, 11 citizens, 6 freemen. When the surrounding countryside is detribalized, those slaves will start getting freed through social mobility.

The slave capture thing is draining my mana from obsessively converting the slaves sent to Berlin to maintain its cultural and religious purity.

Rome has parity in population at around 5000 pops, but only 1500 are Roman Hellenics. The rest are various Latins and Gauls and a smattering of weird ones like Hebrews and Greeks. Rolling with armies of 24,000.

Light army x 10 8000 Archers, 8000 chariots, 8000 light cavalry
Heavy army x 2 8000 Heavy Infantry, 8000 Archers, 8000 Heavy Cavalry

I have granary spammed and keep doing that until 5 granaries are in a province, then do 5 markets. Berlin recently forced me to decide what to do after that. I went with more granaries :p
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Wed May 15, 2019 11:19 am

The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.
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Ostroeuropa
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 15, 2019 11:29 am

Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.


Militarists.
The galaxy can be at peace with the others, mostly, but militarists ensure war and death will come to the galaxy.

Without militarism, xenophobes just want to be left alone.

Authoritarians can be broken through embargos that make abolishing slavery more profitable than keeping it, unless slavery is a cultural thing to them then we've got more of a problem.

Spiritualists are less aggravating in Stellaris because the Shroud is canon and responds to spirituality.
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Ostro.MOV

There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Platypus Bureaucracy
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Wed May 15, 2019 11:33 am

Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.

Either Xenophobes or Militarists.
Ostroeuropa wrote:Militarists.
The galaxy can be at peace with the others, mostly, but militarists ensure war and death will come to the galaxy.

We must wage a war of extermination against the Militarists.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 15, 2019 11:33 am

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.

Either Xenophobes or Militarists.
Ostroeuropa wrote:Militarists.
The galaxy can be at peace with the others, mostly, but militarists ensure war and death will come to the galaxy.

We must wage a war of extermination against the Militarists.


Xenophobes without militarism aren't much of a threat and just want to be left alone.
Ostro.MOV

There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Tillydrone
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Founded: May 13, 2019
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Postby Tillydrone » Wed May 15, 2019 11:37 am

Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.

Authoritarian/Xenophobe

Would have to flip a coin because they both suck.

Edit: After some debate, I decided Xenophobe needs to be destroyed. At least I am able to survive without being treated like shit because I am human under an authoritarian Xeno regime, even if it's a fanatic authoritarian regime.
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Platypus Bureaucracy
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Wed May 15, 2019 11:41 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Either Xenophobes or Militarists.

We must wage a war of extermination against the Militarists.


Xenophobes without militarism aren't much of a threat and just want to be left alone.

I don't know if that's necessarily true. You're assuming that non-militaristic=pacifist AND isolationist. Even assuming they don't wage war at all, what if they use economic clout to make life difficult for other species, for instance? What if they have existing populations of aliens that they treat like shit? What if they're dicks to non-spacefaring civilisations in systems they colonise?
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Postby Purpelia » Wed May 15, 2019 12:00 pm

Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Xenophobes without militarism aren't much of a threat and just want to be left alone.

I don't know if that's necessarily true. You're assuming that non-militaristic=pacifist AND isolationist. Even assuming they don't wage war at all, what if they use economic clout to make life difficult for other species, for instance? What if they have existing populations of aliens that they treat like shit? What if they're dicks to non-spacefaring civilisations in systems they colonise?

Why is them treating their citizens any way they deem fit any of your problem? Unless it's an excuse to invade I guess.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 15, 2019 12:07 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:I don't know if that's necessarily true. You're assuming that non-militaristic=pacifist AND isolationist. Even assuming they don't wage war at all, what if they use economic clout to make life difficult for other species, for instance? What if they have existing populations of aliens that they treat like shit? What if they're dicks to non-spacefaring civilisations in systems they colonise?

Why is them treating their citizens any way they deem fit any of your problem? Unless it's an excuse to invade I guess.

I solemnly swear to devote my life and abilities in defence of the United Nations of Earth,
To defend the Constitution of Man and to further the universal rights of all sentient life,
From the depths of the Pacific to the edge of the galaxy,
For as long as I shall live.
He/Him

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we never summon the devil
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Tillydrone
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Postby Tillydrone » Wed May 15, 2019 12:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Why is them treating their citizens any way they deem fit any of your problem? Unless it's an excuse to invade I guess.

I solemnly swear to devote my life and abilities in defence of the United Nations of Earth,
To defend the Constitution of Man and to further the universal rights of all sentient life,
From the depths of the Pacific to the edge of the galaxy,
For as long as I shall live.

hell yeah dude
Just a cozy little village of around 600, nothing much here.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Wed May 15, 2019 2:32 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:I don't know if that's necessarily true. You're assuming that non-militaristic=pacifist AND isolationist. Even assuming they don't wage war at all, what if they use economic clout to make life difficult for other species, for instance? What if they have existing populations of aliens that they treat like shit? What if they're dicks to non-spacefaring civilisations in systems they colonise?

Why is them treating their citizens any way they deem fit any of your problem? Unless it's an excuse to invade I guess.

Yes, yes, you're very edgy, well done.
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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed May 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Anarchist
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

-said no one ever. I made these words up.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Wed May 15, 2019 4:03 pm



Yeah for Germany to win they need to a) not be Nazis, b) not be Nazis and c) have various non-German factors align perfectly and flawlessly. There's far too many 'ifs' one has to add for them to win.
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Ism
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ism » Wed May 15, 2019 4:55 pm

Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.


If I vote to get rid of all the xenophobes, does that make me a xenophobe?

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Abserdia
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Abserdia » Wed May 15, 2019 5:16 pm

You know what's the worst part about playing as Austria in Vic2?

Hungarian crises.
Black lives matter

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed May 15, 2019 5:22 pm

Abserdia wrote:You know what's the worst part about playing as Austria in Vic2?

Hungarian crises.

Hungarians seem to be a major pain in the ass in most Paradox Games tbh
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed May 15, 2019 5:44 pm

Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.

I'd remove the Xenophobe option it might be too easy.
Anarchist
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."

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The Imperial Reach
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Founded: Jun 22, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Imperial Reach » Wed May 15, 2019 6:38 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Before Reach posts something about how Germany could have won WW2


Why would I post something like that? I'm not a Wehraboo.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Wed May 15, 2019 8:11 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.

I'd remove the Xenophobe option it might be too easy.

Yeeeeah, it's probably an easy option for many. But the views of nationalists and supremacists, who the Xenophobe ideology would represent, would still be curious to see. Are they most offended by Xenophile policies or perhaps Materialist policies, which usually go hand-in-hand in today's society? It doesn't seem so different from dedicated anti-communists or hardcore atheists who would vote their appropriate options when viewed through a Stellaris lens.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 16, 2019 5:48 am

Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.


Synthetics and stupid hiveminds.
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Licana
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Ex-Nation

Postby Licana » Thu May 16, 2019 6:07 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Bralia wrote:The person who thought of this stupid poll should kill themselves in real life, I have a better one. I always have the best polls and all polls should be left up to me because nobody does them better than me, I'm not in the business of bad polls:

Which Stellaris ideology/life form would you want to persecute and stamp out most, regardless of how the ethic axis works?

Egalitarian
Authoritarian
Materialist
Spiritualist
Xenophile
Xenophobe
Radical Centrist Gestalt Consciousnesses
Organics (those filthy meatbags)
Synthetics (stupid tin cans)

Kind of the like opposite of the preferred ethic poll from WAY back in the day, but not because you're not bound to choose the direct opposite.

I'd remove the Xenophobe option it might be too easy.

Xenophobe is unironically one of the best ethics though.

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So was the M-16.

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