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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:50 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
3/10 too much red



FDR didn't carry out the Bowling Green Massacre

Ok that still leaves Wilson.

Maybe we should have a street fighters style fight.

What like fisticuffs?

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Postby Duhon » Tue May 14, 2019 9:50 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
3/10 too much red



FDR didn't carry out the Bowling Green Massacre

Ok that still leaves Wilson.

Maybe we should have a street fighters style fight.


No, ERB.

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:50 am

Duhon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ok that still leaves Wilson.

Maybe we should have a street fighters style fight.


No, ERB.

ERB?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 14, 2019 9:51 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Barrack Obama.

Not a dictator.


LiberNovusAmericae gets an honorary mention in the list.

Diopolis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What FDR or Wilson don’t get a mention?

Wilson was the worst president in our history.


idk man, Wilson was shit but it's nigh impossible to beat Buchanan
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:51 am

Diopolis wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What FDR or Wilson don’t get a mention?

Wilson was the worst president in our history.

If Wilson didn’t exist the Soviet Union never would have risen. Syndicalism would have remained the main leftist movement
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:51 am

Duhon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ok that still leaves Wilson.

Maybe we should have a street fighters style fight.


No, ERB.

Oh that’s a good idea
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:52 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Not a dictator.


LiberNovusAmericae gets an honorary mention in the list.

Diopolis wrote:Wilson was the worst president in our history.


idk man, Wilson was shit but it's nigh impossible to beat Buchanan

Who?
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue May 14, 2019 9:52 am

Duhon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ok that still leaves Wilson.

Maybe we should have a street fighters style fight.


No, ERB.

why haven't they done a Charles Manson v Jim Jones yet

Thermodolia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Wilson was the worst president in our history.

If Wilson didn’t exist the Soviet Union never would have risen. Syndicalism would have remained the main leftist movement

syndicalism
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 14, 2019 9:52 am

Galloism wrote:It's really best understood in terms of governmental hierarchy.

You're ordered by the state of California to take a certain action. If the feds are silent to the issue, you must comply. But if there's a United States law that says you can't take that action, then you must comply with federal law - the higher authority.

Similarly, if the Roman government tells you to take a certain action, and God is silent about it, you must comply. If that would violate an order from God, then you must comply with God - the higher authority.

It's really quite simple.

This is not unlike the military command to follow orders generally, unless those orders are in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, passed by Congress, which is a higher authority than your commanding officer.

So again, where does it say "Leech off of the Roman state and obey the precepts handed down on explicitly religious terms except when it's incense"?
First one doesn't seem to talk about it being considered a religious devotion at all. Second one gives me an error message. In french.

Tracing it back through the site lands me on a very long article. I'm about halfway down and it hasn't mentioned religious devotion of tax paying at all. Can you tell me where to focus?

[11] Part of what made this system of taxation so complex was that it varied significantly from province to province and over time. In a consideration of the religious responsibilities inherent in Jesus' statement and taxation more generally it is useful to consider the situation in the region of Judea. Thanks to the writings of the New Testament and to the historian Josephus we are relatively well informed about Judea in the first century CE. If the first part of Jesus' statement "Render to Caesar what is Caesar's" was primarily a statement of the political responsibilities of taxation then "Render to God what is God's" can be read as a statement of religious responsibility. There are, of course, many valences to this simple expression, including more abstract responsibilities of religious duty to God in one's actions. However, for the purpose of taxation, I want to focus on the more concrete meanings of this seemingly simple statement. All of Roman taxation was linked in part to religious obligation. In a world in which the favor of the gods was seen as essential to the success of Rome, much of religious life was closely linked to the state. It is no surprise, then, that tax revenues helped to support a range of temples and festivals. Indeed, a fitting expression of this religious connection is offered by the central location in Rome of the Temple of Saturn where the tax revenues were kept.

The second one appears to not have said what I thought it said directly, but supports implications of other implications I should have cited if I was going to use it, I apologize for that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 14, 2019 9:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae gets an honorary mention in the list.



idk man, Wilson was shit but it's nigh impossible to beat Buchanan

Who?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Buchanan
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 14, 2019 9:53 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Quick lads, talk about something wildly controversial so we can reach 500.

Who was the most Evil Dictator in History?

Wilson.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Wilson was the worst president in our history.

If Wilson didn’t exist the Soviet Union never would have risen. Syndicalism would have remained the main leftist movement

Then Wilson has to be the worst...A White Russia (as in a victorious White Army) would've been the best outcome of the Russian Civil War.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue May 14, 2019 9:53 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Not a dictator.


LiberNovusAmericae gets an honorary mention in the list.

Is that good for me or bad for me?

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:53 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Who was the most Evil Dictator in History?

Wilson.

Wait...Did we just agree on something?

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue May 14, 2019 9:53 am

Page 500!

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:54 am

Where's the new thread?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 14, 2019 9:54 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Wilson.

Wait...Did we just agree on something?

It happens, when there are racist anti-democratic scumbags on the loose.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 14, 2019 9:54 am

smh OT not locking the thread immediately
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:54 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:Where's the new thread?

Waiting to be unlocked
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:55 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Wait...Did we just agree on something?

It happens, when there are racist anti-democratic scumbags on the loose.

I guess so...

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Postby Diopolis » Tue May 14, 2019 9:56 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Wait...Did we just agree on something?

It happens, when there are racist anti-democratic scumbags on the loose.

I agreed with CM.
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