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2019-2020 US Election Megathread II: Tim Ryan's Empire

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Which Candidate do you like most after the debates?(Ranked in order of polling after said debates)

Joe Biden
40
14%
Bernie Sanders
92
32%
Elizabeth Warren
27
9%
Kamala Harris
10
3%
Pete Buttigieg
15
5%
Cory Booker
2
1%
Beto O'Rourke
3
1%
Andrew Yang
38
13%
Other
49
17%
Undecided
11
4%
 
Total votes : 287

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Postby Satuga » Mon May 13, 2019 6:45 am

Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon May 13, 2019 6:45 am

Third post woop, will edit in something constructive
Satuga wrote:Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.

Tbh I think just about anyone could beat Trump, but then again I thought that in 2016 and look how well that turned out.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 13, 2019 6:47 am

Satuga wrote:Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.

I don't know about that. Trump isn't really that popular. The only reason he won because Hillary was also really unpopular.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 13, 2019 6:48 am

Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 13, 2019 6:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?
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Postby Satuga » Mon May 13, 2019 6:52 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Satuga wrote:Unless there is a candidate who is respective, encouraging, and prepared to deal with real issues on both sides of the political spectrum, it is very likely trump will be reelected.

I don't know about that. Trump isn't really that popular. The only reason he won because Hillary was also really unpopular.


Trump is unpopular with the left in all respect he has met almost if not all of his goals he set in his 2016 campaign. Also with the ever so expanding and insane virtue signalling the left is doing it's very likely the majority of people will vote him again just to spite the left and mainstream media.
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I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.
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Fartsniffage wrote:Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am

Satuga wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I don't know about that. Trump isn't really that popular. The only reason he won because Hillary was also really unpopular.


Trump is unpopular with the left in all respect he has met almost if not all of his goals he set in his 2016 campaign. Also with the ever so expanding and insane virtue signalling the left is doing it's very likely the majority of people will vote him again just to spite the left and mainstream media.

1) So 70-75% of the country is part of the left?
2) He didn't get a majority of the vote in 2016.
EDIT:
3) I seem to recall something about building a wall and repealing the Affordable Care Act being major parts of his campaign.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.
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Postby Galloism » Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?

I volunteer. I have previous experience with the Roman empire.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon May 13, 2019 6:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

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Postby Nakena » Mon May 13, 2019 6:57 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

Fully automatic luxury gay space anarchofascism when


Once you have your very own 3D portable pocket printer.

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Postby Satuga » Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Satuga wrote:
Trump is unpopular with the left in all respect he has met almost if not all of his goals he set in his 2016 campaign. Also with the ever so expanding and insane virtue signalling the left is doing it's very likely the majority of people will vote him again just to spite the left and mainstream media.

1) So 70-75% of the country is part of the left?
2) He didn't get a majority of the vote in 2016.
EDIT:
3) I seem to recall something about building a wall and repealing the Affordable Care Act being major parts of his campaign.


1) Considering that most democratic states are also some of the highest population states i.e California then its not entirely unreasonable, although 70% is fairly high, i would say more like 55%-65%.
2) that's why we have the electoral college, so one party doesn't have control over the entire nation.
3) He's currently trying to build the wall, (It takes quite a while if you didn't know), also wasn't Obama care repealed?

edit:spelling mistake "althouth"
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I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.
Tarsonis wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

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So help me I will throw your tea into the harbor again

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Postby Philjia » Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?

Fight to the death.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am

Galloism wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?

I volunteer. I have previous experience with the Roman empire.

I'll drink to that.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

I find US election news entertaining tbh. Like pro-wrestling.
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I'm a 19 year old Australian who tries to think about things but fails, as we all do. I'll regret this in 2 years tops.

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Postby Galloism » Mon May 13, 2019 7:00 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Galloism wrote:I volunteer. I have previous experience with the Roman empire.

I'll drink to that.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nobody and nobody. We're going full anarcho-anarchist now. It'll be better than having non-stop 24/7 election news.

I find US election news entertaining tbh. Like pro-wrestling.

And just as real, probably.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon May 13, 2019 7:07 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Elections should be banned to end our never ending suffering tbh

Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


I'm partial to a lottery, myself.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon May 13, 2019 7:08 am

Valrifell wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Then who would lead the country? And who would decide who leads the country?


I'm partial to a lottery, myself.

I don't want the type of person to purchase lottery tickets in charge of the most powerful country on Earth, tyvm.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon May 13, 2019 7:16 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I'm partial to a lottery, myself.

I don't want the type of person to purchase lottery tickets in charge of the most powerful country on Earth, tyvm.


No, not tickets. We draw social security numbers from a hat.
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Postby Nakena » Mon May 13, 2019 7:19 am

Service guarantees Citizenship is another possibility.

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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon May 13, 2019 7:19 am

Satuga wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:1) So 70-75% of the country is part of the left?
2) He didn't get a majority of the vote in 2016.
EDIT:
3) I seem to recall something about building a wall and repealing the Affordable Care Act being major parts of his campaign.


1) Considering that most democratic states are also some of the highest population states i.e California then its not entirely unreasonable, although 70% is fairly high, i would say more like 55%-65%.
2) that's why we have the electoral college, so one party doesn't have control over the entire nation.
3) He's currently trying to build the wall, (It takes quite a while if you didn't know), also wasn't Obama care repealed?

edit:spelling mistake "althouth"

1) Trump's approval ratings have been hovering around 25-30%, therefore 70-75% does not approve of him (or didn't vote, but that doesn't really change the point considering how few people didn't vote).
2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".
3) He has consistently failed to come up with anything resembling a decent plan (no, "gimme a few billion dollars" doesn't count), and I was under the impression that he failed to repeal the ACA but I acknowledge that I might have missed something in the fustercluck that is American politics.
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Postby South Odreria » Mon May 13, 2019 7:22 am

Elections and leaders are unnecessary if we ban large scale human interaction.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon May 13, 2019 7:22 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Satuga wrote:
1) Considering that most democratic states are also some of the highest population states i.e California then its not entirely unreasonable, although 70% is fairly high, i would say more like 55%-65%.
2) that's why we have the electoral college, so one party doesn't have control over the entire nation.
3) He's currently trying to build the wall, (It takes quite a while if you didn't know), also wasn't Obama care repealed?

edit:spelling mistake "althouth"


2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".


You recall incorrectly. Here's a helpful hint: all presidents who won sans popular vote had "Republican" somewhere in their party affiliation. In fact, the Democratic Party was founded by someone who got snubbed by the EC (and then the House).
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Postby Satuga » Mon May 13, 2019 7:27 am

Valrifell wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".


You recall incorrectly. Here's a helpful hint: all presidents who won sans popular vote had "Republican" somewhere in their party affiliation. In fact, the Democratic Party was founded by someone who got snubbed by the EC (and then the House).


Andrew Jackson was that person who was snubbed. IE The original name the "Jacksonians"
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I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.
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Postby Satuga » Mon May 13, 2019 7:32 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:1) Trump's approval ratings have been hovering around 25-30%, therefore 70-75% does not approve of him (or didn't vote, but that doesn't really change the point considering how few people didn't vote).
2) I didn't say I had a problem with it (IIRC Obama lost the popular vote in 2008), I was just contesting the idea that "the majority of people will vote him again".
3) He has consistently failed to come up with anything resembling a decent plan (no, "gimme a few billion dollars" doesn't count), and I was under the impression that he failed to repeal the ACA but I acknowledge that I might have missed something in the fustercluck that is American politics.

1) Trumps current approval rating is around 45.3% so as i said around 55% dont agree with him.
2) I suppose I should change my words a little, the majority of electoral votes will go to him, as it did in 2016.
3) That's because not only are they coming up with the best possible design to protect the borders, but many people have protested and attempted to halt the construction, hell I think it was coke-a-cola who even purchased a section of land where the wall was going to go in order to "protest" or even make the government pay them more than what they bought for to build there.
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Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t like democracy. It’s messy, disorderly, unclean.

I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.
Tarsonis wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

(Image)


So help me I will throw your tea into the harbor again

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Postby Gormwood » Mon May 13, 2019 7:34 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Satuga wrote:
Trump is unpopular with the left in all respect he has met almost if not all of his goals he set in his 2016 campaign. Also with the ever so expanding and insane virtue signalling the left is doing it's very likely the majority of people will vote him again just to spite the left and mainstream media.

1) So 70-75% of the country is part of the left?
2) He didn't get a majority of the vote in 2016.
EDIT:
3) I seem to recall something about building a wall and repealing the Affordable Care Act being major parts of his campaign.

Given how FOXNews tried to spin his billion dollars loss as a genius move, his failure to build Da Wahl or repeal Obamacare will be presented as a complete and total exoneration.
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