by GrarG » Fri May 10, 2019 1:52 am
by Uan aa Boa » Fri May 10, 2019 2:05 am
by Old Tyrannia » Fri May 10, 2019 2:07 am
by Sanctum and Ultima » Fri May 10, 2019 2:11 am
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Exxosia » Fri May 10, 2019 2:17 am
by Esternial » Fri May 10, 2019 2:20 am
by Abarri » Fri May 10, 2019 2:24 am
by Caracasus » Fri May 10, 2019 2:24 am
by Sanctum and Ultima » Fri May 10, 2019 2:25 am
Caracasus wrote:We need to turn this around. Tommy Robinson - if he was genuinely concerned about children who had been abused at all - could donate money anonymously.
There's zero question here that he's once again using anything he can get his mitts on to continue to be a fascist piece of shit. So really, what we should ask is the following:
Is it acceptable to allow horrible racist cunts to use charitable donations to stir up shit?
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Uan aa Boa » Fri May 10, 2019 2:27 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:Obviously individuals in paid public positions have every right to dispose of their income any way that they wish, including donating however much they wish to charity. However, I would argue that making this sort of pledge prior to an election ought to be seen as an unethical attempt to influence people's vote.
by Esternial » Fri May 10, 2019 2:27 am
Caracasus wrote:Is it acceptable to allow horrible racist cunts to use charitable donations to stir up shit?
by Caracasus » Fri May 10, 2019 2:36 am
by Sanctum and Ultima » Fri May 10, 2019 2:37 am
Caracasus wrote:Esternial wrote:It shouldn't be illegal, most definitely, but it's not like the media should frame it as anything other than a stunt.
A cunt stunt, if you will.
Oh yeah, I mean how would you legislate that? I was talking more whether it was morally acceptable.
Honestly, this is another example of how General is slowly becoming alt-right talking point after alt-right talking point. In what sane universe would this story be framed in a way that makes it appear the charity is the one on morally/ethically dubious grounds? Tommy Robinson is very clearly the one acting in very bad faith here.
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Caracasus » Fri May 10, 2019 2:40 am
Sanctum and Ultima wrote:Caracasus wrote:
Oh yeah, I mean how would you legislate that? I was talking more whether it was morally acceptable.
Honestly, this is another example of how General is slowly becoming alt-right talking point after alt-right talking point. In what sane universe would this story be framed in a way that makes it appear the charity is the one on morally/ethically dubious grounds? Tommy Robinson is very clearly the one acting in very bad faith here.
Be careful when arguing with an alt-right, as they're idiots
by The United Chinese Republic » Fri May 10, 2019 2:40 am
by Sanctum and Ultima » Fri May 10, 2019 2:42 am
The United Chinese Republic wrote:I don't think so. Even if you hide the identity of the person donating, that person may broadcast that they've donated to your charity, thus associating them to your charity. That's not good if you want to keep a reputation.
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Risottia » Fri May 10, 2019 2:46 am
GrarG wrote:And it got me thinking; should charitable organisations refuse donations because they disagree politically or morally with the one making the donation?
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri May 10, 2019 2:46 am
by Caracasus » Fri May 10, 2019 2:50 am
by Hugolande » Fri May 10, 2019 3:13 am
by Uan aa Boa » Fri May 10, 2019 3:52 am
Hugolande wrote:The charity can't avoid being used by rejecting the offer.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri May 10, 2019 4:17 am
by Ifreann » Fri May 10, 2019 4:33 am
GrarG wrote:I was reading this:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -charities
And it got me thinking; should charitable organisations refuse donations because they disagree politically or morally with the one making the donation?
Quick overview if you don't want to read link; semi-famous hooligan turned anti-islam campaigner Tommy Robinson is running in the EU elections in order to stick the middle finger up at all our closest friends and allies on the continent. In a rare display of goodwill / cynical ploy to improve his image he has offered up his (potential) MEP salary to charities that work with victims of the 'asian' child rape gangs that plague our country. The charities are having none of this, and refuse to accept the money:
“Those who have suffered sexual and physical abuse were failed by those who should have protected them. But Tommy Robinson is no ally for the children he claims to stand up for. Tommy doesn’t care about the rights of women and girls – he is exploiting the pain of survivors and their families to fuel racist hate for his own gain.”
While the above may be true (or not, maybe he does care, I'm not a mind reader), cynical ploy or no it's essentially a charity turning down a considerable donation (potentially several hundred thousand Euro over a 5 year term) simply because they don't like the guy giving it.
by Alvecia » Fri May 10, 2019 4:41 am
by GrarG » Fri May 10, 2019 6:53 am
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