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Ardrentt
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Postby Ardrentt » Thu May 09, 2019 7:57 am

Valrifell wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:That's true. Parents these days aren't willing to do anything that may "mess up" their kids.


That's blatantly untrue, there are plenty negligent parents out in the world.

I think that's the implication; that the parents who aren't willing to do anything that may "mess up" their kids, as it were, are the negligent ones.




I'd argue that a lot of the involvement parents should have in their kids should involve boundaries and rules and the like; it shouldn't involve corporal punishment.

Hell, there's also the free range parents; not entirely sold on the method, but the idea of allowing kids to understand, on their own terms, how to act within a public space seems like a good idea in general.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 09, 2019 8:17 am

Ardrentt wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
That's blatantly untrue, there are plenty negligent parents out in the world.

I think that's the implication; that the parents who aren't willing to do anything that may "mess up" their kids, as it were, are the negligent ones.




I'd argue that a lot of the involvement parents should have in their kids should involve boundaries and rules and the like; it shouldn't involve corporal punishment.

Hell, there's also the free range parents; not entirely sold on the method, but the idea of allowing kids to understand, on their own terms, how to act within a public space seems like a good idea in general.

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Postby Minoa » Thu May 09, 2019 8:24 am

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aust ... SKCN1SF096

I hereby propose the following definition for "Responsibilty": a portmanteau of "Responsibility" and "Guilty", as in where one (namely the RBA) takes responsibility out of feeling guilty for their mistakes.

I think I nailed it.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 8:25 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ardrentt wrote:I think that's the implication; that the parents who aren't willing to do anything that may "mess up" their kids, as it were, are the negligent ones.




I'd argue that a lot of the involvement parents should have in their kids should involve boundaries and rules and the like; it shouldn't involve corporal punishment.

Hell, there's also the free range parents; not entirely sold on the method, but the idea of allowing kids to understand, on their own terms, how to act within a public space seems like a good idea in general.

Spare the rod, spoil the child.

I don't think children have expiration dates, but OK.

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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 8:26 am

Minoa wrote:Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aust ... SKCN1SF096

I hereby propose the following definition for "Responsibilty": a portmanteau of "Responsibility" and "Guilty", as in where one (namely the RBA) takes responsibility out of guilt for their mistakes.

There's literally no way to pronounce "responsibilty" that doesn't sound like you're just slurring "responsibility".

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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 8:26 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Spare the rod, spoil the child.

I don't think children have expiration dates, but OK.

All humans do. It's just not printed on the packaging.
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Postby Minoa » Thu May 09, 2019 8:27 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Minoa wrote:Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aust ... SKCN1SF096

I hereby propose the following definition for "Responsibilty": a portmanteau of "Responsibility" and "Guilty", as in where one (namely the RBA) takes responsibility out of guilt for their mistakes.

There's literally no way to pronounce "responsibilty" that doesn't sound like you're just slurring "responsibility".

In that case I am just not good enough at parodying typos.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 09, 2019 8:29 am

Jetan wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I don't think children have expiration dates, but OK.

All humans do. It's just not printed on the packaging.

We have packaging?
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Postby Ardrentt » Thu May 09, 2019 8:33 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Jetan wrote:All humans do. It's just not printed on the packaging.

We have packaging?

Gets ripped apart once you're born, but y'know.

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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 8:34 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Jetan wrote:All humans do. It's just not printed on the packaging.

We have packaging?

Yep. It even comes in several different colours!
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu May 09, 2019 8:35 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ardrentt wrote:I think that's the implication; that the parents who aren't willing to do anything that may "mess up" their kids, as it were, are the negligent ones.




I'd argue that a lot of the involvement parents should have in their kids should involve boundaries and rules and the like; it shouldn't involve corporal punishment.

Hell, there's also the free range parents; not entirely sold on the method, but the idea of allowing kids to understand, on their own terms, how to act within a public space seems like a good idea in general.

Spare the rod, spoil the child.


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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 09, 2019 8:37 am

Jetan wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:We have packaging?

Yep. It even comes in several different colours!

Neat.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 8:45 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Jetan wrote:Yep. It even comes in several different colours!

Neat.

Unwrapping is not advised though - it can get messy.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 8:47 am

Jetan wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Neat.

Unwrapping is not advised though - it can get messy.

I hear that the wrapper can be reused in book covers.

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Postby Jetan » Thu May 09, 2019 8:57 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Jetan wrote:Unwrapping is not advised though - it can get messy.

I hear that the wrapper can be reused in book covers.

That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 09, 2019 9:02 am

Jetan wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I hear that the wrapper can be reused in book covers.

That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.

Mainly a technically true matter, to be exact.


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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 9:20 am

Jetan wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I hear that the wrapper can be reused in book covers.

That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.

What can I say, I like recycling.

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Postby Ardrentt » Thu May 09, 2019 9:20 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Jetan wrote:That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.

What can I say, I like recycling.

Nothin' miserly about recycling human resources.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu May 09, 2019 9:22 am

Jetan wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I hear that the wrapper can be reused in book covers.

That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.


I hate those wrapping covers you get with hardcover books. Annoying. I always take those wrappers off and use the pics for decor or DIY projects.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 09, 2019 9:23 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jetan wrote:That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.

I hate those wrapping covers you get with hardcover books. Annoying. I always take those wrappers off and use the pics for decor or DIY projects.

But that damages the resell value IMMENSELY!


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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 09, 2019 9:23 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jetan wrote:That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.


I hate those wrapping covers you get with hardcover books. Annoying. I always take those wrappers off and use the pics for decor or DIY projects.

You mean the dust jacket?
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"Affordability
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu May 09, 2019 9:24 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I hate those wrapping covers you get with hardcover books. Annoying. I always take those wrappers off and use the pics for decor or DIY projects.

But that damages the resell value IMMENSELY!


Silly Hurde. I never resell my books. They’re all my Preciouses and I HOARD them!!!
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 9:24 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jetan wrote:That's true. A bit miserly maybe, but true.


I hate those wrapping covers you get with hardcover books. Annoying. I always take those wrappers off and use the pics for decor or DIY projects.

Dust jackets are there for a reason (and they also make convenient bookmarks), but you do you I guess.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu May 09, 2019 9:25 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:But that damages the resell value IMMENSELY!


Silly Hurde. I never resell my books. They’re all my Preciouses and I HOARD them!!!

I hoard books too. I'm running out of shelf space.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu May 09, 2019 9:26 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I hate those wrapping covers you get with hardcover books. Annoying. I always take those wrappers off and use the pics for decor or DIY projects.

You mean the dust jacket?


Yep. I prefer the plain book, no jacket. They also look more aesthetically pleasing to me when I display them in my bookcases.
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