by The Rich Port » Wed May 08, 2019 4:50 pm
by Kowani » Wed May 08, 2019 4:52 pm
by The Rich Port » Wed May 08, 2019 4:56 pm
Kowani wrote:I was honestly expecting this to be another one of those “inevitability of communism” threads.
by Kowani » Wed May 08, 2019 5:01 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Kowani wrote:I was honestly expecting this to be another one of those “inevitability of communism” threads.
XD ouch. Gimme some credit, jeez.
Although, honestly, I think this is kind of the hierarchy sort of asserting itself.
Sure, Instagram models and big YouTube personalities aren't exactly the 1% but they represent, to an extent, in my view, the obscenity of unregulated capitalism.
This is what people aspire to be. This is what it means to have money. Lounging around pools and beaches, photoshopping a bigger ass onto you because you're also opposed to plastic surgery.
by Conserative Morality » Wed May 08, 2019 5:01 pm
by The Rich Port » Wed May 08, 2019 5:04 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Okay, but they usually aren't beautiful, usually they just look weird.
by Conserative Morality » Wed May 08, 2019 5:06 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:Okay, but they usually aren't beautiful, usually they just look weird.
... Which. Yeah. I believe the video covers that.
The question is, why are they Photoshopping themselves to look "beautiful" to begin with?
Why is being... Bangable, I guess, part of being considered legit, worthy of following?
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Wed May 08, 2019 5:11 pm
The Rich Port wrote:The question is, why are they Photoshopping themselves to look "beautiful" to begin with?
Why is being... Bangable, I guess, part of being considered legit, worthy of following?
by Bombadil » Wed May 08, 2019 5:15 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Wed May 08, 2019 5:17 pm
by New haven america » Wed May 08, 2019 5:18 pm
by The Rich Port » Wed May 08, 2019 5:20 pm
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:tl;dr - in primates, social grooming promotes hygiene, coalition/alliance/hierarchy building, and boning. Homo sapiens are fancy primates, ergo, their version is relatively techy but basically they're just apes.
Bombadil wrote:As Ricky Gervais noted the quickest way to get famous is just to murder someone, in a world where fame is the point we're already there.
I don't see why Instagram is too much different to the photo-shopping of models in magazines for years, or the completely fabricated lives of Hollywood stars in the 40's and 50's.
The underlying issue is the fragmentation of communities, which allows for the presentation of unreality without being called on it.
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Huh, my team and I debated almost this exact topic. Specifically, we proposed that the government should ban all photo-editing software (including filters) that allow people to change their appearance. We won funnily enough, after hammering the self-esteem issue.
by Bombadil » Wed May 08, 2019 5:23 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Bombadil wrote:As Ricky Gervais noted the quickest way to get famous is just to murder someone, in a world where fame is the point we're already there.
I don't see why Instagram is too much different to the photo-shopping of models in magazines for years, or the completely fabricated lives of Hollywood stars in the 40's and 50's.
The underlying issue is the fragmentation of communities, which allows for the presentation of unreality without being called on it.
I think the fact that his has been going on for longer than Instagram is an indicator that that's NOT the underlying issue at all.
The underlying issue, IMO, is that we're obsessed with being perfect in every way, financially, physically, mentally, etc.
by Jack Thomas Lang » Wed May 08, 2019 5:23 pm
The Rich Port wrote:... What the fuck was the other side arguing, that Instagram models are the Aryan Race? How did you win that.
by Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 08, 2019 5:24 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Wed May 08, 2019 5:24 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:tl;dr - in primates, social grooming promotes hygiene, coalition/alliance/hierarchy building, and boning. Homo sapiens are fancy primates, ergo, their version is relatively techy but basically they're just apes.
That doesn't make it a good idea, though...
by The Rich Port » Wed May 08, 2019 5:32 pm
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:
The not-even-9 years Instagram has been a thing is not even remotely enough time to speculate as to the evolutionary effects cyber-social grooming might have on the species. As to social grooming in general, the dominance of social species, and the primates specifically, might suggest in its favor as a survival strategy. Of course, the occasional random asteroid may insist on turning "goodness" in that respect on its head too.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Social media in general is a cancer that has harmed younger generations in more ways than one.
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:The Rich Port wrote:... What the fuck was the other side arguing, that Instagram models are the Aryan Race? How did you win that.
They mentioned freedom of choice, and how photo-editing allowed people to make themselves look better and have higher esteem, while also saying that the culture of unrealistic beauty standards was harmful and leading to lower self-esteem...
Turns out, when you fear-monger the issues of fake news, low self-esteem and crime like we did, freedom of choice doesn't look so hot.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Social media in general is a cancer that has harmed younger generations in more ways than one.
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Wed May 08, 2019 5:36 pm
The Rich Port wrote:I think it's safe to say, though, that the evolutionary landscape of today compared to, say, the evolutionary landscape of the emergence of Cro-Magnon man, is... So different that you can't compare the two.
What worked once doesn't mean it's still working. Shit, it doesn't even really apply anymore in plenty of psychological and sociological cases.
by Abarri » Thu May 09, 2019 7:03 am
by The New California Republic » Thu May 09, 2019 7:17 am
The Rich Port wrote:So, long story short: Instagram people like to photoshop themselves to be more "beautiful" to absolutely impossible standards.
by Abarri » Thu May 09, 2019 7:32 am
The New California Republic wrote:The Rich Port wrote:So, long story short: Instagram people like to photoshop themselves to be more "beautiful" to absolutely impossible standards.
Most camera phones have a "beauty" function that is built in, so the falsification happens a step earlier in the process now; no need for photoshop.
Oh how I love taking photos on film for this reason. No falsification, no computer changing the image to make it "better" etc...
by Xmara » Thu May 09, 2019 7:44 am
by Sanctum and Ultima » Thu May 09, 2019 7:47 am
Inner Lands wrote:One men, multiplied by two, divided in four, and obligated to live in eight realms each part of it.
Corrupt Dictator Doges wrote:The former USSR, but with food
by Brightlake » Thu May 09, 2019 8:09 am
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