ASoIAF/Game of Thrones general Discussion Thread

[Degenesis]

I personally think they could've brought Hot Pie up north and have him bake a very hot pie made from dragon berries that he would then smash onto the Night King, causing him to melt and winning the war

Literally this.

But also friendly reminder that Podrick is the one true king.

[Infected Mushroom]

Is there a button somewhere that I can use to change how things went down on Sunday?

Is there????

[The Huskar Social Union]

Is there a button somewhere that I can use to change how things went down on Sunday?

Is there????

Yeah its next to the Jabberwocky's lair in narnia but agent smith is in the way.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I personally think they could've brought Hot Pie up north and have him bake a very hot pie made from dragon berries that he would then smash onto the Night King, causing him to melt and winning the war

Yes.

Thats all.

[Infected Mushroom]

Is there a button somewhere that I can use to change how things went down on Sunday?

Is there????

Yeah its next to the Jabberwocky's lair in narnia but agent smith is in the way.

Did I miss a disclaimer somewhere where it tells you you should have to fiddle with your television's saturation/contrast settings before being able to see the action at all?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yeah its next to the Jabberwocky's lair in narnia but agent smith is in the way.

Did I miss a disclaimer somewhere where it tells you you should have to fiddle with your television's saturation/contrast settings before being able to see the action at all?

The Night is dark and full of terrors young mushroom.


But the fire burns them all away.


So make a pyre next to your screen like i did and its all good.

[Infected Mushroom]

Did I miss a disclaimer somewhere where it tells you you should have to fiddle with your television's saturation/contrast settings before being able to see the action at all?

The Night is dark and full of terrors young mushroom.


But the fire burns them all away.


So make a pyre next to your screen like i did and its all good.

If a young mushroom gets burned (even by accident)

I’ve heard that recovery may not always been an option

[The Huskar Social Union]

The Night is dark and full of terrors young mushroom.


But the fire burns them all away.


So make a pyre next to your screen like i did and its all good.

If a young mushroom gets burned (even by accident)

I’ve heard that recovery may not always been an option

Well.... thats the trade off when dealing with fire gods.

[Infected Mushroom]

If a young mushroom gets burned (even by accident)

I’ve heard that recovery may not always been an option

Well.... thats the trade off when dealing with fire gods.

I see...

[Baltenstein]

[2] The 3ER isn't an inherently military asset, nor is his purpose expressly towards defeating the Night King. He's sort of a living history archive, he's omniscient, aware of the true history of the world. The Night King's goal is the complete destruction of all things living, as that's what he was created to do, raise the dead and fight off the First Men. As long as the 3ER exists, history exists, knowledge exists. Knowledge of history is the best weapon against the dead. By taking out the 3ER the living would be without their repository of knowledge. This makes sense for the Night Kings motives as the NK is as old as the 3ER. However, humans do have a second repository of knowledge, the Maester's Citadel, whatever it's called. Not nearly as useful as a living repository of knowledge but useful none the less. It would make sense that this would have been his next target, had he not been killed at the Battle of Winterfell.

But how can the 3ER be "humanity's knowledge archive" when nobody even knew about his existence? It's not like he had been some accesable, guiding beacon through the ages, he was sitting in his cave completely isolated from the rest of the world for thousands of years. In fact, why was it necessary for Bran to even undertake his long journey to the cave and back to Winterfell again? Seems to me the 3ER could have simply continued sitting in his tree, where the NK could not have touched him. Nevermind that Bran's knowledge did absolutely nothing whatsoever to contribute to the NK's demise. Everything the living found out about Valyrian steel, dragonfire and the like, they found out by themselves. The only thing Bran told them was that the NK wanted to create "an endless night" i.e., that he was really bad news, which I think they also had already figured by that point.
And just like the 3ER could simply have ignored the whole NK business by sititng safely in his cave, the NK could in turn simply have ignored him and just go on and wipe out all life in the world, which would have meant the end of history anyways, thus making the 3ER's role obsolete.
In the end, the 3ER was neither necessary for either the living or the dead to achieve total victory over the other.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So far the average rating based on the poll results is 3.1


Oh division...

[The Huskar Social Union]

If Arya kills Cersei i will be fucking pissed

[Baltenstein]

If Arya kills Cersei i will be fucking pissed

She's not just going to kill Cersei...she is going to kill the Red Keep. With a dagger.

[Pasong Tirad]

If Arya kills Cersei i will be fucking pissed

It's probably gonna be Jaime. That's way too poetic an opportunity to not take.

[The Huskar Social Union]

If Arya kills Cersei i will be fucking pissed

She's not just going to kill Cersei...she is going to kill the Red Keep. With a dagger.

If Arya kills Cersei i will be fucking pissed

It's probably gonna be Jaime. That's way too poetic an opportunity to not take.

Yeah but Arya is a fan favourite and is basically killing or beating everyone she faces.

I dont like that she got to kill the NK the way she did, Jon should have been there fighting him too.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

She's not just going to kill Cersei...she is going to kill the Red Keep. With a dagger.

It's probably gonna be Jaime. That's way too poetic an opportunity to not take.

Yeah but Arya is a fan favourite and is basically killing or beating everyone she faces.

I dont like that she got to kill the NK the way she did, Jon should have been there fighting him too.

I figure they could make it make perfect sense for her character next episode (for instance, after so long fighting for revenge, she now remembers what's important and fights to save her family, even alongside those who were on her list), or it could just be A Thing That Happened, depending on what she says. At this point, it's kind of hard to tell what they were going for, since no one speaks afterwards or reacts to what she did.

Also, Arya's not going to kill Cersei. Seriously, she's killed what? Two major baddies now (Walder Frey and the NK)? Three if you count her execution of Littlefinger, but that was really a family effort. There's no reason to think they're giving her every important kill.

[-Ocelot-]

If Arya kills Cersei i will be fucking pissed

Not to disappoint you but Arya is by far the most qualified person to do so because she is a Faceless man. The hard part for her was reaching and killing the NK. Cercei should be easier to reach.

Don't forget Mel's prophecy. Walder Frey = brown eyes, NK = Blue eyes and Cercei = Green eyes. Will she shut them all?

[The Huskar Social Union]

If Arya kills Cersei i will be fucking pissed

Not to disappoint you but Arya is by far the most qualified person to do so because she is a Faceless man. The hard part for her was reaching and killing the NK. Cercei should be easier to reach.

Don't forget Mel's prophecy. Walder Frey = brown eyes, NK = Blue eyes and Cercei = Green eyes. Will she shut them all?

She would have killed 4 major antagonists then in this show.

Walder Frey
Little Finger
Night King
Cersei Lannister


Might as well rename the show as Game of Arya Batman.

Someone else should kill her, preferably one of the two other lannisters.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yeah but Arya is a fan favourite and is basically killing or beating everyone she faces.

I dont like that she got to kill the NK the way she did, Jon should have been there fighting him too.

I figure they could make it make perfect sense for her character next episode (for instance, after so long fighting for revenge, she now remembers what's important and fights to save her family, even alongside those who were on her list), or it could just be A Thing That Happened, depending on what she says. At this point, it's kind of hard to tell what they were going for, since no one speaks afterwards or reacts to what she did.

Also, Arya's not going to kill Cersei. Seriously, she's killed what? Two major baddies now (Walder Frey and the NK)? Three if you count her execution of Littlefinger, but that was really a family effort. There's no reason to think they're giving her every important kill.

I really hope they dont, but having her kill the Night King without any support at all just feels like fan service and trying to be unexpected and shocking. They said so themselves pretty much in the behind the scenes videos for the episode.

if Arya helped Jon kill him, i would have been fine with it. If they both fought together to kill him i would have been perfectly happy. Or if one or two main characters died in the lead up to his death i would have been fine, but other than Theon every loss was a side character, and its debatable if you would class Theon as a major character. It felt too easy in terms of major deaths, like all their fucking soldiers are pretty much dead, which i expected, but more prominent characters should have died..

[Infected Mushroom]

Plot Twist:

Episode 4 - Cersei is immediately overthrown and killed by Euron. Euron then brings his army to face the heroes. However, the heroes talk Euron's divided army into turning against each other. Euron is then anticlimactically offed by Arya as well.

Episode 5 - Jon and Danny have a whole episode long stand off about who will get the Iron Throne. Then they work it out after Varys hosts a counselling session with them for a hear to heart with Tyrion helping.

Episode 6 - Rainbows and Cakes as the entire realm is democratised. And just for the hell of it, its Presidential (and not parliamentary) to cater to the American audience.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Plot Twist:

Episode 4 - Cersei is immediately overthrown and killed by Euron. Euron then brings his army to face the heroes. However, the heroes talk Euron's divided army into turning against each other. Euron is then anticlimactically offed by Arya as well.

Episode 5 - Jon and Danny have a whole episode long stand off about who will get the Iron Throne. Then they work it out after Varys hosts a counselling session with them for a hear to heart with Tyrion helping.

Episode 6 - Rainbows and Cakes as the entire realm is democratised. And just for the hell of it, its Presidential (and not parliamentary) to cater to the American audience.

I would burn people irl for this offence.

Wheres that stannis meme when you need it.

[Ifreann]

Yeah but Arya is a fan favourite and is basically killing or beating everyone she faces.

I dont like that she got to kill the NK the way she did, Jon should have been there fighting him too.

I figure they could make it make perfect sense for her character next episode (for instance, after so long fighting for revenge, she now remembers what's important and fights to save her family, even alongside those who were on her list), or it could just be A Thing That Happened, depending on what she says. At this point, it's kind of hard to tell what they were going for, since no one speaks afterwards or reacts to what she did.

Also, Arya's not going to kill Cersei. Seriously, she's killed what? Two major baddies now (Walder Frey and the NK)? Three if you count her execution of Littlefinger, but that was really a family effort. There's no reason to think they're giving her every important kill.

Maisie Williams somehow achieves total creative control of the show and gives herself every good bit and the finale ends with Queen Arya.

[-Ocelot-]

Plot Twist:

Episode 4 - Cersei is immediately overthrown and killed by Euron. Euron then brings his army to face the heroes. However, the heroes talk Euron's divided army into turning against each other. Euron is then anticlimactically offed by Arya as well.

Episode 5 - Jon and Danny have a whole episode long stand off about who will get the Iron Throne. Then they work it out after Varys hosts a counselling session with them for a hear to heart with Tyrion helping.

Episode 6 - Rainbows and Cakes as the entire realm is democratised. And just for the hell of it, its Presidential (and not parliamentary) to cater to the American audience.

4 - Not going to happen because of the Valonqar prophecy. Ceicei will be killed by either Jamie or Tyrion according to the prophecy. Probably Jaime. I bet Euron will abandon Cercei if things turn south for him but Asha Greyjoy has to survive or we'll lose yet another historical house in the series.

5- Maybe Bran will make Daenerys look into the past and let her decide.

6 - Possible because Dany states that she want to "break the wheel" instead of perpetuating the current system. Some parts of Essos are somewhat Democratic so it's not like Westeros will be the first continent to do so.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I just wana hear Bran say "You were Beautiful that night" to someone again


Cuz that was fucking hilarious.

Probably not the intention, but it was.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

I figure they could make it make perfect sense for her character next episode (for instance, after so long fighting for revenge, she now remembers what's important and fights to save her family, even alongside those who were on her list), or it could just be A Thing That Happened, depending on what she says. At this point, it's kind of hard to tell what they were going for, since no one speaks afterwards or reacts to what she did.

Also, Arya's not going to kill Cersei. Seriously, she's killed what? Two major baddies now (Walder Frey and the NK)? Three if you count her execution of Littlefinger, but that was really a family effort. There's no reason to think they're giving her every important kill.

I really hope they dont, but having her kill the Night King without any support at all just feels like fan service and trying to be unexpected and shocking. They said so themselves pretty much in the behind the scenes videos for the episode.

if Arya helped Jon kill him, i would have been fine with it. If they both fought together to kill him i would have been perfectly happy. Or if one or two main characters died in the lead up to his death i would have been fine, but other than Theon every loss was a side character, and its debatable if you would class Theon as a major character. It felt too easy in terms of major deaths, like all their fucking soldiers are pretty much dead, which i expected, but more prominent characters should have died..

I think "it felt too easy, so they should have killed more major characters" is a thoroughly wrongheaded approach. These things have everything to do with how you pace it, shoot it, how you build and release tension. Just killing more characters isn't going to fix whatever felt off about it.

Look at Helm's Deep. It's basically the gold standard for big fantasy battles, and no one dies except that elf dude no one cares about.