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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
334
36%
Eastern Orthodox
85
9%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
57
6%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
96
10%
Methodist
16
2%
Baptist
95
10%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
72
8%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
37
4%
Other Christian
137
15%
 
Total votes : 935

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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:11 am

A m e n r i a wrote:It just occurred to me how many African Christians live in the city I live in. So tell me, what are the chances of an African pope in the future?


Hopefully, very high.

I think Cardinal Robert Sarah would be a great Pope.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:14 am

Aeritai wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:It just occurred to me how many African Christians live in the city I live in. So tell me, what are the chances of an African pope in the future?


Like a Vatican Pope position? It depends to my knowledge you must be born in the Vatican to become Pope and I'm not sure if any African was born in Vatican. But I am sure that it is possible for a African to become Pope.

No one has been born within the Vatican for as long as the Vatican has been a thing.
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Postby Aeritai » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:24 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Like a Vatican Pope position? It depends to my knowledge you must be born in the Vatican to become Pope and I'm not sure if any African was born in Vatican. But I am sure that it is possible for a African to become Pope.


Pope Francis was born in Argentina tho.



I was talking more like the Pope in the Vatican.


Oh, well they just need to move to the Vatican and get citizenship and then under go the training process.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:25 am

Diopolis wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Like a Vatican Pope position? It depends to my knowledge you must be born in the Vatican to become Pope and I'm not sure if any African was born in Vatican. But I am sure that it is possible for a African to become Pope.

No one has been born within the Vatican for as long as the Vatican has been a thing.


Not even accidentally?
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:29 am

Diopolis wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Like a Vatican Pope position? It depends to my knowledge you must be born in the Vatican to become Pope and I'm not sure if any African was born in Vatican. But I am sure that it is possible for a African to become Pope.

No one has been born within the Vatican for as long as the Vatican has been a thing.

QUICK SOMEONE DELIVER A BABY IN THE VATICAN.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:34 am

Luminesa wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No one has been born within the Vatican for as long as the Vatican has been a thing.

QUICK SOMEONE DELIVER A BABY IN THE VATICAN.

There's something so sad and sterile about a place with no children...
Pregnant lady in Rome- get to inside the Vatican to deliver, stat!
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Postby A m e n r i a » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:38 am

Salus Maior wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:It just occurred to me how many African Christians live in the city I live in. So tell me, what are the chances of an African pope in the future?


Hopefully, very high.

I think Cardinal Robert Sarah would be a great Pope.


Why do you think so?
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Postby Hakons » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:41 am

Kowani wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:There is nothing else I can do for the damned. Enlighten me with scripture if you feel otherwise.

Free will still exists. Humans can be quite troublesome in rejecting the truth.


“You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.”


What is this even in reference to? Grenartia gave a snobby remark when Davincia was just recognizing the reality that we can't do anything for the damned. Of course, this doesn't even mean anything to you, because you don't believe in scripture. If anything, this passage directly applies to you, since you are trying to use a passage when you yourself don't believe the passage.
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:03 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Luminesa wrote:QUICK SOMEONE DELIVER A BABY IN THE VATICAN.

There's something so sad and sterile about a place with no children...
Pregnant lady in Rome- get to inside the Vatican to deliver, stat!

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:12 pm

Holy crap you guys. There are no requirements to be elected Pope, beyond being male. Once elected you’d have to be baptized, confirmed and take the holy orders, but the College of Cardinals can literally choose any male to be Pope. I don’t know where these strange ideas about being born in the Vatican to be pope, but that’s not how this works.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:15 pm

Kowani wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:There is nothing else I can do for the damned. Enlighten me with scripture if you feel otherwise.

Free will still exists. Humans can be quite troublesome in rejecting the truth.


“You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.”

Care to elaborate?
Salus Maior wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:It just occurred to me how many African Christians live in the city I live in. So tell me, what are the chances of an African pope in the future?


Hopefully, very high.

I think Cardinal Robert Sarah would be a great Pope.

Agreed.
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Postby Minachia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:17 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Holy crap you guys. There are no requirements to be elected Pope, beyond being male. Once elected you’d have to be baptized, confirmed and take the holy orders, but the College of Cardinals can literally choose any male to be Pope.

Tfw there are more requirements to become a state legislator than to become the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:17 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Hopefully, very high.

I think Cardinal Robert Sarah would be a great Pope.

Definitely.

Would also make for a nice milestone in Papal history.

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Postby The Grims » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:52 pm

https://youtu.be/kF8I_r9XT7A

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Postby Diopolis » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:29 am

Minachia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Holy crap you guys. There are no requirements to be elected Pope, beyond being male. Once elected you’d have to be baptized, confirmed and take the holy orders, but the College of Cardinals can literally choose any male to be Pope.

Tfw there are more requirements to become a state legislator than to become the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

Not in my state. You don't even have to be male because of all this PC crap.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:26 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Minachia wrote:Tfw there are more requirements to become a state legislator than to become the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

Not in my state. You don't even have to be male because of all this PC crap.

It is not “PC” to not require a legislator to be male.
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Postby Minachia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:32 pm

Random question:
What are y'all's thoughts on wearing multiple cross/crucifix necklaces at the same time?
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:09 pm

Minachia wrote:Random question:
What are y'all's thoughts on wearing multiple cross/crucifix necklaces at the same time?

I wear a crucifix and a scapular, and once I used to wear an extra crucifix. I don’t see the problem, so long as they’re worn in a reverent manner.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:10 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Holy crap you guys. There are no requirements to be elected Pope, beyond being male. Once elected you’d have to be baptized, confirmed and take the holy orders, but the College of Cardinals can literally choose any male to be Pope. I don’t know where these strange ideas about being born in the Vatican to be pope, but that’s not how this works.

I was just cracking jokes my dude.
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and the greatest is love."
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Postby Benuty » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:34 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Imagine thinking God's grace cannot reach even the damned, therefore committing the eternal sin that assumes that one's evil is beyond God's forgiveness. Also imagine celebrating Pascha on the wrong Sunday. Smh.


Unrepentant evil isn't forgiven. Only repented evil is forgiven.

I am reminded of one of Pol Pots former lieutenants who somehow got around to reading the Bible, and joined up with a born again Christian movement. Suffice to say he became genuinely repentant for his crimes, but not sure what happened to the guy following his trial.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:33 am

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Postby Minachia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:33 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:Christ Has Risen, my Orthodox Brothers and Sisters!

Last week, someone on my region's Discord server called me a heretic and an infidel for celebrating Easter then.
Just thought I should share that.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:35 am

Minachia wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Christ Has Risen, my Orthodox Brothers and Sisters!

Last week, someone on my region's Discord server called me a heretic and an infidel for celebrating Easter then.
Just thought I should share that.


Ffs, Christ likely wasn't actually born in December, either. The only reason we celebrate it then, is cause Pope Julius I decided it should be so.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:18 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Minachia wrote:Last week, someone on my region's Discord server called me a heretic and an infidel for celebrating Easter then.
Just thought I should share that.


Ffs, Christ likely wasn't actually born in December, either. The only reason we celebrate it then, is cause Pope Julius I decided it should be so.

Yep.
Granted, the reasons weren't exactly "the Romans have a holiday in midwinter, so why shouldn't we?", but Jesus probably wasn't born in December.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:20 pm

Diopolis wrote:By the standards of his Christian supporters, he would not be considered a Christian.


That's some blatant fucking bullshit.

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Grenartia wrote:How Christ-like of you.

There is nothing else I can do for the damned. Enlighten me with scripture if you feel otherwise.


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