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The war on drugs and black people and inevitable communism

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Support war on drugs
44
9%
Support rehabilitation
75
16%
Support war on black people
30
6%
End war on black people
67
14%
Support worker’s management
52
11%
Oppose worker’s management
23
5%
Support genetic modification
65
14%
Oppose genetic modification
20
4%
Support furries
29
6%
Oppose furries
74
15%
 
Total votes : 479

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The war on drugs and black people and inevitable communism

Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:42 pm

People ignore the war on black people, instead talking about North Korea’s problems. Everyone knows North Korea is a byproduct of Stalin. I of course want a democratic socialism, and would point out that there is now a more libertarian socialism in Kurdistan. Let us go boldly into the future, which belongs to the workers.

Anyway... do you support the war on drugs and black people? Do you support worker’s power? I say even those of you who are fascists and think blacks are inferior must realize that eventually we will just genetically modify ourselves, probably into furries.

Also, I do not think putting someone in jail for doing weed in the best way to handle such a situation. We must change the police into a well regulated people’s militia, as in the constitution, continue rehabilitating people and more properly (you don’t always have to do it for Jesus), and improve their lives so they do less drugs. In my view, this means establishing more of a community, such as through worker’s management, to work together on our common goals.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... esUUmMIIEg

The "War on Drugs" was actually a political tool to crush leftist protesters and black people, a former Nixon White House adviser admitted in a decades-old interview published. John Ehrlichman, who served as President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, laid bare the sinister use of his boss' controversial policy in a 1994 interview with journalist Dan Baum that the writer revisited in a new article for Harper's magazine.

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying," Ehrlichman continued.
"We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

In 1971, Nixon labeled drug abuse "Public Enemy No. 1" and signed the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act, putting into place several new laws that cracked down on drug users. He also created the Drug Enforcement Administration. By 1973, about 300,000 people were being arrested every year under the law — the majority of whom were African-American.

The drug war was continued in various forms by every President since, including President Ronald Reagan, whose wife Nancy called for people to "Just say no."

Ehrlichman's 22-year-old comments resurfaced Tuesday after Baum wrote about them in a cover story for the April issue of Harper's, titled "Legalize It All," in which he argues in favor of legalizing hard drugs.

The original 1994 interview with Ehrlichman was part of Baum's research for his 1997 book, "Smoke and Mirrors: The War on Drugs and the Politics of Failure," in which Baum laid bare decades of unsuccessful drug policy.

The Rev. Al Sharpton said Ehrlichman's comments proved what black people had believed for decades. "This is a frightening confirmation of what many of us have been saying for years. That this was a real attempt by government to demonize and criminalize a race of people," Sharpton told the Daily News. "And when we would raise the questions over that targeting, we were accused of all kind of things, from harboring criminality to being un-American and trying to politicize a legitimate concern."

Sharpton said the damage done by the war on drugs' cruel policies doomed generations of black people. “Think of all the lives and families that were ruined and absolutely devastated only because they were caught in a racial net from the highest end reaches of government."
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:53 pm

People ignore the war on black people, instead talking about North Korea’s problems. 

Seriously with this shit again? Is this entire thread just a big whataboutism to defend DPRKs atrocities by just recycling the Soviet Union's "but you kill black people" tactic? Just because people are criticizing the DPRK does not suddenly mean those that do this are "fascists" and think "blacks are inferior". Hell, it doesnt even mean they completely ignore the race issues within the United States or pretend they dont exist like you seem to be claiming, simply because they criticize the DPRK. You can both denounce the racial issues and the war on drugs in the US AND criticize the atrocities of DPRK. Shocking, I know.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:26 am

While I oppose the legalization of most drugs, this statement is true:

The "War on Drugs" was actually a political tool to crush leftist protesters and black people, a former Nixon White House adviser admitted in a decades-old interview published. John Ehrlichman, who served as President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, laid bare the sinister use of his boss' controversial policy in a 1994 interview with journalist Dan Baum that the writer revisited in a new article for Harper's magazine.


The war of drugs in the US is a weapon to keep black people poor and weak. The police seems hellbent on arresting black people who smoke or sell weed while not care so much about rich white kids doing the same. It's unjust.

Some drugs should be illegal and governments must remain aware of the synthetic ones that have recently entered the market, which tend to be even more damaging and addictive than natural ones e.g: Synthetic cannabis/Spice, meth. With that being said, a weed smoker should not be treated like a serial killer nor they should be given lengthy jail time for a victimless crime. Detox and rehabilitation could help these people escape from an otherwise bottomless pit of addiction and health problems, although America's privatized prison system clearly has no time for that.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:30 am

Nothing you've proposed will ever lead to communism.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:59 am

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:I say even those of you who are fascists and think blacks are inferior must realize that eventually we will just genetically modify ourselves, probably into furries.

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Postby Astoriya » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:04 am

Costa Fierro wrote:Nothing you've proposed will ever lead to communism.

^ this

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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:06 am

[Insert subject here] and inevitable communism, and there you go, you too can make your own OP on this matter.

Personally speaking... None of this will lead to communism, but the war on drugs is to legalise to a certain extent. Getting drugs from cartels or shady dealers are always bad news, and you will never get away from them if they suddenly decided to charge you more and more, knowing that you get addicted.

I personally am against recreational drugs for myself, but I can also see the benefits of legalization. For one thing, it will more or less help those that are buying, because let's face it: You would rather buy from a legal drugstore than from some shady dude in an alley, or somewhere else.

Of course, this might come with drawbacks, and some limitations. Drawbacks being that it will make people easier to get addicted, but I suppose that can be tried out with drug educational programs? It's technically the people's right to have these drugs for them, but at the same time, know what kind of things you are going for.

And this will not help much when the drug cartels aren't going to give up that easily. They are not just going to drop their moneymaking machine that easily and will resort to other methods. I mean, that's why you still have contraband cigarettes even when cigarettes are legal.

In short... Err, pretty complicated. In my opinion, legalisation could help, but it's not a cure-all.

As for the war on black people, I can't say it, because I have little to no knowledge of the cultural background of America.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:08 am

Socialist Workers Combine wrote: I say even those of you who are fascists and think blacks are inferior must realize that eventually we will just genetically modify ourselves, probably into furries.


It's time to stop.

I'm getting the squirt bottle.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:16 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Socialist Workers Combine wrote: I say even those of you who are fascists and think blacks are inferior must realize that eventually we will just genetically modify ourselves, probably into furries.


It's time to stop.

I'm getting the squirt bottle.

This is all just SWC's fanfiction, it all makes sense now.
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Postby Griemvarant » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:17 am

If the war on drugs is a war on black people, then it's one of the most sinister and subversive wars ever and the black community should be calling for the heads of such people as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. During the Clinton administration, one of the biggest crackdowns on cocaine - normal and crack - was sponsored and lobbied for by the major figures of the black community. This is a refrain seen often throughout the history of anti-drug actions in modern America. There are two conclusions to draw from this: the first is that the war on drugs is not actually a war on black people and the black community is simply unfortunate enough to have a majority of offenders by happenstance and not by design. The second is that the war on drugs is a war on black people and is sponsored and orchestrated by the very people who then cry wolf about police brutality and the singling-out of blacks for drug offenses.
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Postby Crockerland » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:51 am

http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/03/23/no-nixon-didnt-start-war-drugs-arrest-black-people-exclusive/

These claims were totally refuted by former Nixon speechwriter Pat Buchanan, who told Red Alert Politics that he never heard the quote before and the former president launched the war on drugs to fight the plague of drug abuse.

“(I) have never heard or seen that quote before, and it surely was not policy in the Nixon White House, where concern about what drugs were doing to our country, especially to young people, was universal,” said Buchanan to Red Alert.

The release of these statements also seem to add additional doubts to their validity. Ehrlichman allegedly told the author about the racial aspect to the war on drugs in 1994 while he was being interviewed for Baum’s book, Smoke and Mirrors: The War on Drugs and the Politics of Failure, released in 1996.

Baum claimed he didn’t include the quote in book 20 years ago, because it didn’t fit the book’s narrative — but why didn’t he write a follow up in an op-ed and have Ehrlichman respond to the quotes?

It seems highly questionable that Baum had the confession that Nixon launched a secret race war, and the author felt the need to hide it for 22-years, long after his single source was dead and buried.



So we don't actually have any proof for this claim, just some random guy claiming another Nixon official told him this, nearly a quarter century ago, and he kept is a secret for that near-quarter century, until the only other witness was deceased so as to be unable to refute the claims made. And the one person this claim originates from stands to gain a lot from lying.

But that's a moot point now because, you know, I actually spoke to former vice president Ford myself, and he told me none of this was true. You can definitely trust me. Buy my books.

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:The Rev. Al Sharpton said Ehrlichman's comments proved what black people had believed for decades. "This is a frightening confirmation of what many of us have been saying for years. That this was a real attempt by government to demonize and criminalize a race of people," Sharpton told the Daily News. "And when we would raise the questions over that targeting, we were accused of all kind of things, from harboring criminality to being un-American and trying to politicize a legitimate concern."

Sharpton said the damage done by the war on drugs' cruel policies doomed generations of black people. “Think of all the lives and families that were ruined and absolutely devastated only because they were caught in a racial net from the highest end reaches of government."



Also, lol at citing "reverend" Al Sharpton, dude is a moron and an overt racist.
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With each new criticism of the professor, leaders in the African-American community rushed to Jeffries’ defense. NYC’s two black newspapers as well as black radio station WLIB; joined activists such Al Sharpton, Colin Moore, C. Vernon Mason, Sonny Carson, and Lenora Fulani to showcase their approval of Jeffries’s “scholarship” and to denounce the people who criticized Jeffries Antisemitism as race baiters.

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:09 am

Christ, I knew Al Sharpton wasnt a great guy but didnt know the extent of his violent anti semitism.
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Postby Griemvarant » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:40 am

In that case, though, he's not entirely wrong. The majority of slave ships were owned or co-owned by Jews, and the overwhelming majority of slave owners in the United States were Jewish. We shouldn't try to erase history or pass the blame, but we should learn from the mistakes of the past.
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Postby Berhakonia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:46 am

Peopwe ignowe the waw on bwack peopwe, instead tawking about Nowth Kowea’s pwobwems. Evewyone knows Nowth Kowea is a bypwoduct of Stawin. I of couwse want a democwatic sociawism, and wouwd point out that thewe is now a mowe wibewtawian sociawism in Kuwdistan. Wet us go bowdwy into the futuwe, which bewongs to the wowkews.

Anyway... do you suppowt the waw on dwugs and bwack peopwe? Do you suppowt wowkew’s powew? I say even those of you who awe fascists and think bwacks awe infewiow must weawize that eventuawwy we wiww just geneticawwy modify ouwsewves, pwobabwy into fuwwies.

Awso, I do not think putting someone in jaiw fow doing weed in the best way to handwe such a situation. We must change the powice into a weww weguwated peopwe’s miwitia, as in the constitution, continue wehabiwitating peopwe and mowe pwopewwy (you don’t awways have to do it fow Jesus), and impwove theiw wives so they do wess dwugs. In my view, this means estabwishing mowe of a community, such as thwough wowkew’s management, to wowk togethew on ouw common goaws.

The "Waw on Dwugs" was actuawwy a powiticaw toow to cwush weftist pwotestews and bwack peopwe, a fowmew Nixon White House advisew admitted in a decades-owd intewview pubwished. John Ehwwichman, who sewved as Pwesident Wichawd Nixon's domestic powicy chief, waid bawe the sinistew use of his boss' contwovewsiaw powicy in a 1994 intewview with jouwnawist Dan Baum that the wwitew wevisited in a new awticwe fow Hawpew's magazine.

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House aftew that, had two enemies: the antiwaw weft and bwack peopwe. You undewstand what I'm saying," Ehwwichman continued.
"We knew we couwdn't make it iwwegaw to be eithew against the waw ow bwack, but by getting the pubwic to associate the hippies with mawijuana and bwacks with hewoin, and then cwiminawizing both heaviwy, we couwd diswupt those communities. We couwd awwest theiw weadews, waid theiw homes, bweak up theiw meetings, and viwify them night aftew night on the evening news. Did we know we wewe wying about the dwugs? Of couwse we did."

In 1971, Nixon wabewed dwug abuse "Pubwic Enemy No. 1" and signed the Compwehensive Dwug Abuse Pwevention and Contwow Act, putting into pwace sevewaw new waws that cwacked down on dwug usews. He awso cweated the Dwug Enfowcement Administwation. By 1973, about 300,000 peopwe wewe being awwested evewy yeaw undew the waw — the majowity of whom wewe Afwican-Amewican.

The dwug waw was continued in vawious fowms by evewy Pwesident since, incwuding Pwesident Wonawd Weagan, whose wife Nancy cawwed fow peopwe to "Just say no."

Ehwwichman's 22-yeaw-owd comments wesuwfaced Tuesday aftew Baum wwote about them in a covew stowy fow the Apwiw issue of Hawpew's, titwed "Wegawize It Aww," in which he awgues in favow of wegawizing hawd dwugs.

The owiginaw 1994 intewview with Ehwwichman was pawt of Baum's weseawch fow his 1997 book, "Smoke and Miwwows: The Waw on Dwugs and the Powitics of Faiwuwe," in which Baum waid bawe decades of unsuccessfuw dwug powicy.

The Wev. Aw Shawpton said Ehwwichman's comments pwoved what bwack peopwe had bewieved fow decades. "This is a fwightening confiwmation of what many of us have been saying fow yeaws. That this was a weaw attempt by govewnment to demonize and cwiminawize a wace of peopwe," Shawpton towd the Daiwy News. "And when we wouwd waise the questions ovew that tawgeting, we wewe accused of aww kind of things, fwom hawbowing cwiminawity to being un-Amewican and twying to powiticize a wegitimate concewn."

Shawpton said the damage done by the waw on dwugs' cwuew powicies doomed genewations of bwack peopwe. “Think of aww the wives and famiwies that wewe wuined and absowutewy devastated onwy because they wewe caught in a waciaw net fwom the highest end weaches of govewnment."
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:54 am

Berhakonia wrote:Peopwe ignowe the waw on bwack peopwe, instead tawking about Nowth Kowea’s pwobwems. Evewyone knows Nowth Kowea is a bypwoduct of Stawin. I of couwse want a democwatic sociawism, and wouwd point out that thewe is now a mowe wibewtawian sociawism in Kuwdistan. Wet us go bowdwy into the futuwe, which bewongs to the wowkews.

Anyway... do you suppowt the waw on dwugs and bwack peopwe? Do you suppowt wowkew’s powew? I say even those of you who awe fascists and think bwacks awe infewiow must weawize that eventuawwy we wiww just geneticawwy modify ouwsewves, pwobabwy into fuwwies.

Awso, I do not think putting someone in jaiw fow doing weed in the best way to handwe such a situation. We must change the powice into a weww weguwated peopwe’s miwitia, as in the constitution, continue wehabiwitating peopwe and mowe pwopewwy (you don’t awways have to do it fow Jesus), and impwove theiw wives so they do wess dwugs. In my view, this means estabwishing mowe of a community, such as thwough wowkew’s management, to wowk togethew on ouw common goaws.

The "Waw on Dwugs" was actuawwy a powiticaw toow to cwush weftist pwotestews and bwack peopwe, a fowmew Nixon White House advisew admitted in a decades-owd intewview pubwished. John Ehwwichman, who sewved as Pwesident Wichawd Nixon's domestic powicy chief, waid bawe the sinistew use of his boss' contwovewsiaw powicy in a 1994 intewview with jouwnawist Dan Baum that the wwitew wevisited in a new awticwe fow Hawpew's magazine.

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House aftew that, had two enemies: the antiwaw weft and bwack peopwe. You undewstand what I'm saying," Ehwwichman continued.
"We knew we couwdn't make it iwwegaw to be eithew against the waw ow bwack, but by getting the pubwic to associate the hippies with mawijuana and bwacks with hewoin, and then cwiminawizing both heaviwy, we couwd diswupt those communities. We couwd awwest theiw weadews, waid theiw homes, bweak up theiw meetings, and viwify them night aftew night on the evening news. Did we know we wewe wying about the dwugs? Of couwse we did."

In 1971, Nixon wabewed dwug abuse "Pubwic Enemy No. 1" and signed the Compwehensive Dwug Abuse Pwevention and Contwow Act, putting into pwace sevewaw new waws that cwacked down on dwug usews. He awso cweated the Dwug Enfowcement Administwation. By 1973, about 300,000 peopwe wewe being awwested evewy yeaw undew the waw — the majowity of whom wewe Afwican-Amewican.

The dwug waw was continued in vawious fowms by evewy Pwesident since, incwuding Pwesident Wonawd Weagan, whose wife Nancy cawwed fow peopwe to "Just say no."

Ehwwichman's 22-yeaw-owd comments wesuwfaced Tuesday aftew Baum wwote about them in a covew stowy fow the Apwiw issue of Hawpew's, titwed "Wegawize It Aww," in which he awgues in favow of wegawizing hawd dwugs.

The owiginaw 1994 intewview with Ehwwichman was pawt of Baum's weseawch fow his 1997 book, "Smoke and Miwwows: The Waw on Dwugs and the Powitics of Faiwuwe," in which Baum waid bawe decades of unsuccessfuw dwug powicy.

The Wev. Aw Shawpton said Ehwwichman's comments pwoved what bwack peopwe had bewieved fow decades. "This is a fwightening confiwmation of what many of us have been saying fow yeaws. That this was a weaw attempt by govewnment to demonize and cwiminawize a wace of peopwe," Shawpton towd the Daiwy News. "And when we wouwd waise the questions ovew that tawgeting, we wewe accused of aww kind of things, fwom hawbowing cwiminawity to being un-Amewican and twying to powiticize a wegitimate concewn."

Shawpton said the damage done by the waw on dwugs' cwuew powicies doomed genewations of bwack peopwe. “Think of aww the wives and famiwies that wewe wuined and absowutewy devastated onwy because they wewe caught in a waciaw net fwom the highest end weaches of govewnment."


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:57 am

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:People ignore the war on black people, instead talking about North Korea’s problems



Hey imagine this, i know it sounds mental, but people can talk about and think about more than one thing at a time.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 am

Griemvarant wrote:In that case, though, he's not entirely wrong. The majority of slave ships were owned or co-owned by Jews, and the overwhelming majority of slave owners in the United States were Jewish. We shouldn't try to erase history or pass the blame, but we should learn from the mistakes of the past.

Any source for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery
'Cause Wikipedia quotes the 1.25% figure, which is far from any sort of majority.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:22 am

We should have more White people arrested for drug crimes to increase racial equality.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:23 am

It’s not like white communities are also crippled by the opioid crisis or anythin’ as well.

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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:43 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:It’s not like white communities are also crippled by the opioid crisis or anythin’ as well.


The opioid crisis is a huge problem but it doesn't exist because the government wants to destroy white people. OP is talking about a different issue.

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Postby Otira » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:45 am

I wish I also could average 50 posts a day on communism
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:46 am

Drug dealers should be stoned to death by at-risk youth. Escalate the war on drugs until there aren't any left!
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:48 am

Diopolis wrote:Drug dealers should be stoned to death by at-risk youth. Escalate the war on drugs until there aren't any left!


Sounds like a good idea until someone who hates you accuses you of being a drug dealer. Good luck convincing an angry mob you are not a criminal.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:48 am

Bienenhalde wrote:We should have more White people arrested for drug crimes to increase racial equality.

Considering white people are more likely to get away with usage of drugs although both races use them at near identical rates, yes, we should.
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Postby Rezmaeristan » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:53 am

Ya know what we need to do? Stop these drugs getting in.

BUILD.

THAT.

WALL.

(Ok it won't stop them all but it will cut the supply in half)
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