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大日本海国
Dai Nippon Kaikoku
Great Japanese Maritime Nation


Full Nation Name : Maritime Empire of Japan (大日本海国, Dai Nippon Kaikoku)
Majority/Official Culture : Japanese
Territorial Core : Japanese home islands, the Ryukyu Islands, Sakhalin, Taiwan, Hawaii, Micronesia, Guam, the Mariana Islands, the Nanpō Islands, Minamitori Island, New Guinea, the Bismarck Islands, the Solomon Islands, Fiji, Tonga and coastal Northern Territory, Queensland and New South Wales.
Territorial Claim : Eastern Indonesian islands, East Timor, the rest of Australia, and New Zealand.
Capital City : Kyoto
Population : 66.9 million (40.1 million for the home islands; 26.8 million in colonies).

Government Type : Ceremonial diarchy under traditionalist hereditary dictatorship
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialism, mercantilism, traditionalism, Confucianism
Government Focus : Economic growth, maintaining dominant position in the Pacific, colonial expansion.
Head of State : Their Imperial Majesties, the Emperors of the Northern and Southern Courts.
Head of Government : Her Highness the Imperial Regent, Lady Toyotomi Hinami.
Government Description : The ultimate fount of all authority is considered to be the two co-emperors of Japan, who rule by virtue of their descent from the sun deity, Amaterasu-Omikami. Each of the two emperors "reigns" for one half of the year, before the imperial regalia- the "Three Sacred Treasures of Japan," the sword Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi (草薙劍), the mirror Yata-no-Kagami (八咫鏡), and the jewel Yasakani-no-Magatama (八尺瓊勾玉)- are transferred from one court to the other amongst much ceremony to mark the transfer of authority to the emperor of the other court. In practice, however, the imperial courts' role is primarily symbolic and authority is exercised by the Toyotomi clan as imperial regents or kampaku. There are two parallel governments within the Japanese Empire- one for the home islands of the Japanese people, referred to as Yamatokoku (大和国), and one for the overseas empire, known as the state of the sea or Kaikoku (海国), often translated as thalassocracy. Since all relations with tributary and barbarian states is dealt with by the Kaikoku-seifu (海国政府), the thalassocratic government, the latter is generally recognised as the relevant sovereign entity by foreign powers who refer to Japan in formal terms as 大日本海国, Dai Nippon Kaikoku. The supreme head of both governments is the kampaku (関白), meaning civil dictator or regent. The government of Yamatokoku consists of the Council of State, the Daijō-kan (太政官), and the Eight Ministries. In practice the imperial regent generally deals mostly with the affairs of the Kaikoku, whilst the Chancellor of the Realm (Daijō-daijin, 太政大臣), an official appointed by the regent, heads the administration of the Yamatokoku. The Kaikoku-seifu is formed of three secretariats, the Secretariat of Martial Affairs, the Secretariat of External Relations and the Secretariat of Civil Administration. The first oversees the defence of the Japanese empire; the second deals with foreign affairs, and the last is responsible for appointing colonial officials, collecting revenue and overseeing the implementation of justice outside the home islands. Each is headed by a secretary appointed by the regent.

Majority/State Religion : Most Japanese practise a combination of Shinto, Buddhism and Confucianism. Confucianism is the state ideology and is strongly promoted by the Imperial Government. Shinto remains a largely disorganised folk religion, although it is central to the Japanese understanding of themselves and their nation; the Japanese Emperors serve as the dual religious heads of the Shinto religion. Buddhism has been suppressed in the past but is currently tolerated officially. Because Shinto regards death as unclean, funerary rites have traditionally been the domain of the Buddhist clergy.

Economic Ideologies : The economic system of the Japanese Empire may be best described as a sort of aristocratic corporatism. The Kaikoku-seifu generally pursues a mercantilist and protectionist economic policy, maintaining high tariffs on imports and imposing a system of "imperial preference" on its colonies that requires them to trade principally with the home islands rather than with outside powers.
Major Production : Coal, steel, foodstuffs (especially rice), and luxury goods such as tea, silk and furniture.
Economic Description : Japan has one of the strongest economies in the world, and dominates maritime commerce in the Pacific as it has done for centuries. The Imperial Government pursues protectionist and mercantilist policies in order to encourage production within the empire and reduce the outflow of wealth from importing foreign goods. Under a system of imperial preference, Japan restricts its colonies from trading with other states in order encourage trade within the empire. Within the Yamatokoku, most economic power and capital is still focused in the hands of the traditional aristocracy, whereas in the Kaikoku a less rigid social hierarchy prevailed, with successful middle-class merchants from the homeland achieving great wealth and forming a new colonial ruling class. As the empire expanded, raw materials from the colonies flowed back to Japan to fuel a burgeoning industrial economy, with Japan following Korea to become East Asia's second industrial power. Amidst Japan's rapid industrialisation, many merchants founded successful companies which would eventual grow into powerful family-owned conglomerates, or zaibatsu (財閥), that continue to dominate the Japanese economy.

The Imperial Government generally maintains an interventionist stance towards the economy and a close relationship with the zaibatsu. Faced with unrest due to the poor working conditions in Japan's new factories and the precarious status of regular workers, and inspired by Confucian ideals of reciprocal loyalty between lords (employers) and servants (employees), Japan has begun to develop the basics of a welfare state with employers being required to provide for the medical care and pensions of their workers. Despite the modernisation of its infrastructure Japan remains somewhat conservative in many ways; in particular, land ownership in the Yamatokoku is still largely feudal in nature and, as mentioned above, social mobility is virtually non-existent. By contrast the Kaikoku or colonial part of the Japanese Empire is more modern in both regards, although its culture and society remain deeply hierarchical. The Yamatokoku is more industrialised than the Kaikoku, which mainly serves as a source of raw materials. Japan's main trading partners are Korea and China, although more trade with the American powers is beginning to take place. Most trade takes place through the colonies, which are more accessible to foreigners and foreign trade than the home islands. Japan is fairly self-sufficient economically but does import industrial materials (e.g. coal and steel) from Korea and food as well as many luxury manufactured items from China. American and European nations are a source of luxury manufactured goods, technology and exotic foods- for example, chocolate from the Azteks.

Development: Modern/Semi-industrialized.
Development Description: Japan is one of East Asia's most technologically advanced societies, but development is highly uneven across the Empire; the Yamatokoku is heavily industrialised whilst large parts of the Kaikoku remain economically underdeveloped.

Army Strength : 822,560 troops strong, divided between the 160,200 troops of the Imperial Japanese Army and 662,360 Imperial Marines. Japan's ground forces are efficiently organised, highly motivated and loyal. Japanese culture promotes courage and honour in battle, and most Japanese troops would rather die than surrender to the enemy.
Army Weakness : The officer class, largely drawn from old samurai families, remain highly conservative in outlook and are yet to fully accept modern military doctrine and reconcile it with the samurai warrior code, whilst the rank-and-file are largely made up of conscripts who are less well-equipped and trained than their Western counterparts. Japan's ground forces also suffer from a lack of cavalry and artillery.
Naval Strength : The Imperial Japanese Navy (日本海軍, Nippon Kaigun) is one of the largest and best funded naval forces in East Asia. Its newest ships are among the world's most technologically advanced, and the Japanese have a strong naval tradition with a well established, tried and tested naval doctrine.
Naval Weakness : Decades of complacency have eroded the technological edge of Japan's fleets, with many ships being somewhat outdated, and it will take time to fully replace them with newer classes. Additionally many of the navy's officers achieved their position by birth rather than through merit, and are untested in a real battle scenario.
Further Military Description : There are two main branches of the Japanese military- the Imperial Japanese Army (日本皇軍), Nippon Kōgun) and the Imperial Japanese Navy (日本海軍, Nippon Kaigun). The Imperial Army is under the authority of the Yamatokoku-seifu and the Ministry of Defence, and dedicated to the defence of the home islands; in practice, it is relatively small and fulfils a largely ceremonial role due to the fact that Japan itself has not been under direct threat of invasion for centuries. The Imperial Navy is under the jurisdiction of the Secretariat of Martial Affairs, part of the Kaikoku-seifu. As the Imperial Army's role is officially restricted to the defence of the home islands, the role of the main ground force of the Japanese military is fulfilled by the greatly swollen Imperial Marine Corps, 日本海兵隊 (Nippon Kaiheitai). The Imperial Marines are responsible for the defence of the Japanese colonial empire and serve as its main offensive ground force. Many are drawn from the colonial population and are experts at ship-to-ship combat and boarding manoeuvres, island-hopping and fighting in tropical environments, making them highly well suited to defending Japan's vast maritime empire.

National Goals : To consolidate Japan's position as the main naval power in the Pacific, expand Japanese territory in southern Polynesia, Indonesia and Australasia, and keep rival colonial powers out of its sphere of influence.
National Issues : Japan faces the challenge of fully modernising its large but increasingly outdated naval forces, ending its diplomatic isolation by securing new alliances, and strengthening the army in order to defend and expand its continental possessions. Additionally, the Empire faces factionalism amongst the ruling elites at home and the threat of insurgency from its colonies.
National Figures of Interest :
  • Emperor of the Southern Court (南朝天皇, Nanchō Tennō): Personal name Yutanari (寛成). 58 years old. The older of Japan's co-sovereigns, Yutanari was known in his youth for his profligacy and inattention to study, preferring to spend time gambling, hunting and pursuing women. However his attitudes have changed with age, and he has become increasingly conservative, adopting an ascetic lifestyle and performing his obligations as emperor with dutiful devotion. Maintains a strictly Confucian court with close attention to protocol, but also a deeply devoted Zen Buddhist. His era name is Shōzū (正崇), meaning "upright and honourable."
  • Emperor of the Northern Court (北朝天皇, Hokuchō Tennō): Personal name Kenshō (賢章). 19 years old. The younger of Japan's co-sovereigns, only a year into his reign following the abdication of his grandfather. Bright, idealistic and open-minded, the Northern Emperor is known to be pro-reform whilst remaining a devoted Confucian. Although dutiful he is more inclined to question the established way of doing things than his southern counterpart. His era name is Shōkyō (昌慶), meaning "prosperous and jubilant."
  • Toyotomi Hinami (豊臣日南): 31 years old. The first woman to hold the title of kampaku, Lady Hinami is the daughter of previous imperial regent Toyotomi Hatsuo. She succeeded him as regent due to the lack of male heirs, with her father asking for and being granted a special edict approved by both emperors allowing the position to be filled by a woman in order to secure her legitimacy. Her husband, Toyotomi Motozane, is the head of a junior branch of the Toyotomi clan, although said branch broke off from the main line some 200 years ago, meaning the couple are not closely related. Their marriage was arranged to secure the Toyotomi clan's control of the office of regent. Charming and cultured, Hinami has proven a capable leader, embodying the ideal of the Yamato-Nadeshiko; a proper lady with a streak of iron. Her rule has been characterised by cautious reform and an increasingly ambitious and assertive foreign policy.
National Ambition/Aspirations : To become the leader of a politically and economically dominant coalition of countries under East Asian cultural influence, pursuing a civilising mission amongst the barbarians of the world. Hakkō ichiu.

History : Japan is a nation with an ancient history. According to traditional accounts its sovereigns have reigned in an unbroken line for over two thousand years, the Imperial House of Yamato- Japan's ruling dynasty- having been founded by Emperor Jimmu (神武天皇, Jinmu-tennō) in 660 BC. Through him, the imperial lineage may trace its ancestry back to the Goddess of the Sun, Amaterasu-Omikami (天照大神). Although the early origins of the Japanese nation are shrouded in myth and mystery, Chinese sources dating from the 3rd century AD confirm the existence of a powerful kingdom known as Yamataikoku in the Japanese archipelago. Buddhism was introduced to Japan by the 6th century, in the Asuka Period. In the following Nara Period, so-named for the city of Nara which is built upon the site of the then-capital of Japan, the country became more centralised and began to adopt Chinese Confucian ideas on governance. Literature and the arts began to flourish. The Nara Period ended with the shift of Japan's capital from Nara to Nagaoka and then finally to Heian, modern day Kyoto, marking the beginning of the Heian Period. This period of Japanese history witnessed the decline of imperial authority as Japan's emperors became figureheads for the powerful Fujiwara clan, who monopolised the powerful position of kampaku (関白), meaning chief advisor to the emperor. The loss of power by Japan's emperors did not halt the cultural flourishing that had begun in the Nara Period, however. Japan at this time began to develop the distinctive culture it is known for today, and a strong sense of Japanese identity and nationhood emerged. The ethos of the Japanese nation in this period was expressed by a phrase from The Tale of Genji, one of the greatest works of Japanese and world literature, written at the Heian court by a female courtier named Murasaki Shikibu; "it is when there is a fund of Chinese learning (才, zae) that the Japanese spirit (大和魂, Yamato-damashii) is respected in the world."

The trend of declining imperial authority continued into the second millennium, and by the 12th century the court nobility had also began to lose its power in favour of the newly ascendant warrior class, the samurai. The passage of power from the Fujiwara court clan to the Minamoto samurai clan under the leadership of Minamoto no Yoritomo, the first military ruler or shogun (将軍) of Japan, heralded the dawn of Japan's feudal era and the beginning of the Kamakura Period. By the end of the Kamakura shogunate, even the shogun had become a figurehead to the powerful Hōjō clan, who wielded the title of Regent to the Shogunate or shikken (執権). Thus the emperor, kampaku and shogun were all reduced to figureheads in a situation that could only arise as a result of Japan's strong Confucian culture, which made openly deposing and replacing one's superior or liege lord an unthinkable offence. Under the Hōjō clan the Japanese successfully defeated Mongol invasions in 1274 and 1281, but they ultimately lost power in the 14th century as a result of an attempt by the Emperor Go-Daigo to topple the shogunate and restore the imperial house to true power in the so-called Kenmu Restoration. The Emperor was successful in toppling the Hōjō, but not in curbing the ambitions of the samurai class. By 1336 the Restoration government had collapsed and the imperial capital of Kyoto fell into the hands of a rebel samurai named Ashikaga Takauji, a descendant of the Minamoto clan, who proclaimed himself shogun and installed a rival claimant to the imperial throne as Emperor Kōgon. Emperor Go-Daigo and his supporters fled south to Yoshino, where they established a rival court known as the Southern Court whilst the court in Kyoto became known as the Northern Court. The conflict between the Ashikaga shoguns and the Southern Court lasted until 1392, when the third Ashikaga shogun, Ashikaga Yoshimitsu, offered the beleaguered Southern Court a compromise; the role of emperor would be shared between the northern and southern lines, who would each hold nominal authority over the northern and southern parts of the country, with Kyoto demarking the dividing line. In practice, authority over the entire country would remain with the shogun, but the Southern Court could save face and retain their prestige. The three imperial treasures, the regalia of the Japanese Emperor, would be shared between the two emperors, spending half the year with the Northern Court Emperor and half the year with the Southern Court Emperor. Furthermore, as the senior imperial line the Southern Court Emperors would hold seniority to the Northern Court. This agreement led to the establishment of Japan's unique diarchic system that has endured to the modern day.

The rule of the Ashikaga clan saw Japan experience an era of relative peace and prosperity, but the in-looking tendencies of the Japanese elite continued. Whilst neighbouring Korea emerged as a colonial power in south-east Asia, Japan remained insular and unconcerned with foreign affairs. This state of affairs was not to last indefinitely, however. Growing rivalries between Japan's powerful feudal lords, the daimyō (大名), began to undermine the central authority of the shogunate. In 1467, the Ōnin War broke out as a consequence of a dispute between two powerful lords, Hosokawa Katsumoto and Yamana Sōzen. The war rapidly escalated out of control, and signalled the end of the Ashikaga shogunate's centralised rule over Japan. This began Japan's Warring States or Sengoku Period. The Imperial Courts lacked any authority to impose order on the country. Ashikaga Yoshiteru, the 14th Ashikaga shogun, was assassinated in 1565 and the ambitious and powerful daimyō Oda Nobunaga seized power and installed Yoshiteru's brother Yoshiaki as puppet shogun. Nobunaga was a skilled military leader and a capable political reformer, but also known to be brutal in his efforts to unify Japan under his rule. By 1582 most of Japan was under Nobunaga's control, but in that year he was assassinated along with his eldest son in a coup by a former subordinate, Akechi Mitsuhide. It fell to Nobunaga's vassal Hashiba Hideyoshi, a peasant's son raised high by his talents as a negotiator and commander and by Nobunaga's largesse, to avenge his liege lord. Mitsuhide was defeated by Hideyoshi's forces at the Battle of Yamazaki, and Mitsuhide himself died shortly afterwards, supposedly killed by a bandit named Nakamura Chōbei with a bamboo spear- a dishonourable end for the powerful samurai. Hideyoshi now took for himself his former master's place as ruler of Japan. Like Nobunaga, he was not descended from the Minamoto clan and therefore ineligible to claim the title of shogun, but instead had himself adopted by the Konoe branch of the powerful Fujiwara clan and adopted a new surname, Toyotomi. He was thus able to take the title of kampaku, civil dictator or regent to the Emperors.

Hideyoshi was not content with completing the unification of Japan that Nobunaga had began. After securing the country, he looked to expand his power by invading China. His hopes were to construct a vast Japanese empire spanning all of Asia, rivalling that of the Mongols who had tried to invade Japan centuries earlier. Hideyoshi had hoped to gain the collaboration of Korea in his ambitions, but the Koreans, who were a tributary to the Chinese Ming dynasty at the time, refused to allow Japanese forces to pass through Korea. Hideyoshi thus resolved to invade Korea. From 1592 to 1598, Japan waged two campaigns against Korea. The Korean kingdom was at the time feeble militarily and Hideyoshi's troops, far better trained and equipped than their Korean counterparts and experienced from Japan's long civil wars, quickly overran most of the peninsula. However, Japanese ambitions were ultimately foiled by the intervention of the powerful and virtually independent Korean Viceroyalty of Chuk-jae-do in south-east Asia. The Viceroyalty's forces inflicted devastating losses on the Japanese navy, cutting off Japan's armies in Korea from reinforcements, and fresh Korean troops from the colonies began to wear down the resolve of Japan's forces. On the 18th September 1598, Hideyoshi died of natural causes, and the new ruling Council of Five Elders decided to withdraw Japan's armies from Korea. The ill-feeling towards Korea in Japan was somewhat moderated by the Koreans' agreement to allow the peaceful withdrawal of Japanese soldiers and the release of all prisoners of war. With Hideyoshi gone, his son Toyotomi Hideyori was declared kampaku and ruler of Japan, but actual power was exercised by a council of regents. Hideyoshi's dreams of expansion were temporarily forgotten by Japan's new rulers, but not by his heirs.

By 1600, relations between the members of the council had deteriorated. Civil war broke out between Hideyoshi's former retainer Tokugawa Ieyasu and the other four members of the council. Toyotomi Hidetsugu, Hideyoshi's nephew, adopted son and former heir who had been exiled upon the birth of Toyotomi Hideyori to prevent a succession crisis, returned from his exile and began gathering an army of his own to fight the Tokugawa forces and protect Toyotomi rule. Hideyoshi had considered forcing Hidetsugu to commit suicide, but had relented after being advised against it; it was now Hidetsugu who would save the Toyotomi clan's legacy. Hidetsugu met and defeated Ieyasu at the Battle of Sekigahara, after which Ieyasu committed ritual suicide, seppuku, leaving Hidetsugu in control of Japan. Hideyori remained the nominal ruler of Japan, but his older cousin and adoptive brother held real power, marrying his daughter to Hideyori in order to increase his authority over him as his father-in-law, since under Confucian precepts sons-in-law owed filial piety to their bride's parents. Both Hidetsugu and Hideyori shared Hideyoshi's dreams of expanding Japanese power, but it was clear that another invasion of Korea was out of the question. Instead, Hidetsugu opened Japan up to trade with Korean and European merchants, and began building up Japan's naval strength, nurturing ambitions of building a Japanese colonial empire that would eclipse that of Korea. Under him, the Japanese gradually expanded north, charting and colonising the unexplored islands of Hokkaido and Karafuto (Sakhalin). At the same time, Japanese merchants with state sponsorship began to establish outposts in the Philippines and the Spice Islands, resulting in clashes with Korea. A series of colonial wars with Korea through the 17th and 18th centuries saw Japan's defeat in the Philippines, but by then Japan had already established a presence further south, shifting its colonial aspirations to the south and east and away from Korea.

Hidetsugu died 1632. He had intended that his son Senchiyomaru would succeed him as Japan's ruler, but an effort to displace Hideyori as kampaku backfired when Hideyori, as Hideyoshi's rightful heir, was able to claim the support of most of the daimyō and defeated Senchiyomaru in a brief succession struggle. Senchiyomaru performed seppuku and Hideyori reigned for more than twenty years, overseeing the conquest of Taiwan and defeat of rival colonial ventures on the island by the Koreans, Dutch and Spanish. It was Hideyori who initiated the division of Japan's government between the Yamatokoku-seifu, responsible for administrating the home islands, and the Kaikoku-seifu, which oversaw Japan's colonies and dealt with foreign affairs. At the same time, Japan began to improve its naval forces by incorporating elements of European design into its ships. Naval innovation in this period led to the creation of ships that were better suited than their Korean and Chinese counterparts for long voyages in deeper waters, and Japanese explorers set out to reach the west coast of America, the regent's court being inspired by tales of Europeans circumnavigating the globe. In the process the Japanese charted and annexed much of Melanesia, Micronesia and Polynesia.

In the 19th century, Japan was one of the two great colonial powers of East Asia. At this time, concerns over European expansion into what the Oriental powers regarded as their natural sphere of influence prompted a détente between Korea and Japan, and an agreement was established that Japan would restrict its territorial ambitions to the east whilst Korea focused on expansion in the west. Japan was the second East Asian country to industrialise, following Korea in the mid-19th century. Although power remains in the hands of the Toyotomi clan as imperial regents, some reforms have been implemented as the nation progresses both technologically and socially; discrimination against the burakumin (部落民) outcast class is now officially prohibited, although still widespread unofficially. The samurai class have been converted into a class of hereditary officer families, filling high-ranking positions within both the military and civil service, which remain closely intertwined. Powerful merchant clans have developed into the family-owned zaibatsu business conglomerates which control much of Japan's economy. The Empire has developed a basic welfare state based on Confucian precepts. Despite this, Japan remains a deeply traditional society, more distrustful of outside influence than other East Asian nations; Japanese have come to regard their nation as the modern centre of East Asian and Confucian culture, replacing China- until relatively recently a fractured and weakened empire- as the "Middle Kingdom" (中国, Chūkoku). Other cultures are dismissed as barbarians and their presence in Japan itself is generally restricted to a few ports, except for those who gain special permission from the Yamatokoku-seifu to travel more widely.

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Full Nation Name : Grand Duchy of Brittany (Dugelezh-Veur Breizh | Graund-duché de Bertaèyn | Grand-duché de Bretagne)
Majority/Official Culture : The inhabitants of the peninsular known as Brittany are Bretons. Though at first glance a united people, they are in fact divided into two groups: those who speak the Insular Celtic language known as Breton, and those who speak the Romance language known as Gallo. The 'true' Bretons, the brezhoneg, are descendants of both those who migrated from Britain during its settlement by Germanics from the east and the local Gaullish population who adopted their customs, language and ultimately identity. The 'French' Bretons, the gallais, are descendants of the Gauls who adopted Roman customs and language, though being further from the great centres of the empire they never forgot their roots.
Territorial Core : Breton Empire
Territorial Claim : Loose further ambitions in Africa and the East
Capital City : Nantes
Population : 57,598,012
Brittany: 3,030,400
Eastern Province of the Uruguay River: 2,503,000
East Indies: 39,424,000
Jamaica: 820,400
Gabon: 546,000
East Africa: 4,643,000
Bourma: 5,525,000
Rangoun: 293,300


Government Type : Semi-Constitutional Monarchy
Government Focus : The government's focus is upon sustaining Brittany's colonial holdings and ensuring peace in Europe, no matter how fragile. For over a millennia it has also focused upon staying independent of France.
Head of State : Grand Duchess Katarin de Montfort
Head of Government : Armael Moisan, Chief Minister of State
Government Description : All power is formally vested in the Grand Duke, with the Chief Minister (technically an unofficial position) heading an executive which is separate from the Parliament of Brittany (Parlamant Breizh | parlement de Bertaèyn), though members may hold positions in both. Parliament is divided between three estates, namely the clergy, nobility and commons. While historically the former two estates held the majority of the seats and power, in recent years the suffrage for the commons has been extended significantly, with a new system of political parties coming in to play.

For the colonies governance is largely the responsibility of a colonial government answerable to and appointed by the executive, with some oversight by Parliament. The exception to this is Ouragwai, which as a dominion is afforded self-government. The exact nature of the relationship between Ouragwai and Brittany is somewhat of a contention between the Dominion's Assembly and Brittany's Parliament, with the former aiming for a personal union which ensures de facto independence, and the latter aiming to keep Brittany's ascendance over its colonial holdings.

Majority/State Religion : Church of Brittany
Religious Description : The majority of the population of Brittany proper belong to the Church of Brittany. The Church is separated from Rome and Constantinople, but considers itself catholic and orthodox in its structure and teachings, while accepting a reformed outlook to restore the teachings of early Christianity. This unusual structure was drawn from a compromise between the Lollard-influenced Protestant urban population and the conservative Catholic rural population. An example of the compromise would be the existence of an Episcopalian structure and preservation of most monasteries, while removing Mass, prayers for the dead etc. while instituting clerical marriage and the priesthood of all believers.

Other religions include adherence to the Chalcedonian Church, traditional African religions (on the decline in their non-syncretic form due to missionaries), and Hinduism, Buddhism and eastern traditions (largely in the East Indies and Bombai).

Economic Ideologies and Description: Brittany follows a capitalist economic system based upon the acquisition of raw material goods from its colonies and their refinement into marketable goods. In the current day it largely follows a free market and laissez-faire system (albeit still subject to government interference on occasion), but in the past relied upon mercantilist and protectionist policies.
Major Production : Agriculture in Brittany proper is king. While it cannot compete with France in terms of how much is produced overall, it can compete in production per capita. Though not as famous as its neighbour, it is also a producer of wine, in both quantity and quality. Fishing is also extremely important, the nation being surrounded by coastline and sometimes considering itself an island in nature if not reality. While industrialised to modern standards, besides a few regions and cities Brittany remains largely an agricultural society which has led some to see it as still in transition from an early modern semi-feudal state to a fully fledged modern and industrialised society. Thus its factories tend to output both less overall and per capita than those of its neighbours, even of similar sizes.

Development: Modern
Development Description : While Brittany can be seen to be lagging behind its neighbours in terms of industrial development, those regions which have seen progress, namely the larger cities and certain regions such as Nantes, Lorient and Saint-Nazaire, are up to modern standards.

Army Description : The peacetime Army of Brittany consists of 45 regiments (23 infantry, 12 cavalry, 10 artillery), which are stationed both at home and abroad in the colonies. In keeping with most other continental European powers, the army is organised on the basis of universal conscription. Each year those men turning twenty-one in the upcoming year are inducted into the army and spend two years in active service. After leaving active service they progress through various stages of reserves, each of which involved a lower degree of commitment.

Colonial regiments also exist, but tend to be ad hoc and during peacetime exist largely to complement Breton regiments stationed locally, often being intertwined administratively.
Army Weakness : Lack of manpower in Brittany means that a wartime scenario requires the heavy use of colonial troops, many of whom are untrained and will require equipment Brittany may be unable to provide. The army also suffers from a lack of funding, being seen as less important and prestigious than the navy.
Naval Description : The Breton navy is the pride of the nation, providing the small country the means to exert power through the world. The rapid change from traditional ships to the new ironclads and now their modern successors has not been kind, with Brittany unable to keep up with her neighbours in terms of size or power. Still, the Bretons possess the desire to continue expansion, both in quality and quantity, and the means to do this via a well-trained officer corp.
7 Battleships, 4 Cruisers, 8 Destroyers, 35 Raiders, 3 Submersibles, 35 Miscellaneous

Naval Weakness : Brittany's lag in terms of industrialisation has meant that the speed at which it can replace its traditional navy, and build further ships, is below that of its neighbours.

National Goals : - Maintain independence, - Peace in Europe, - Empire / Federation, - Retain monarchical system
National Issues : Industrialisation, the Ouragwai Issue, European Peace, 'Yellow Peril'

History : The history of Brittany began its prehistoci settlement, beginning around 700,000 BC. This, however, is far less relevant than one of the first events to make Brittany what it is today, the arrival of the Bretons from the 3rd and 4th centuries AD on to the 6th century AD. From its union in 851 AD through to the 14th century Brittany existed in various states and with multiple changes in border and ruling dynasties. It was tied to the fates of the surrounding French kingdoms and polities, from Charlemagne's empire to its many squabbling successors.

The beginning of the early modern propelled Brittany on to the path of true statehood. Its Grand Dukes became far less interested in the affairs of the French polities and dynasts, and looked further afield to the world opened up by the Iberians. The Bretons had always been avid fishermen and merchants, their long coastline, situation upon trade routes from the Mediterranean to the North Sea and vice versa, and access to the Atlantic and Channel gave them great experience in those regards.

Bretons sailed the world, planting seeds in Ouragwai and setting up factories across Asia and several coastal forts in Africa. As spices, salt, silver and gold flowed back into Brittany from the New World and Oreitn, now too came new teachings from Germany and France. The Reformation had begun to radically reshape Europe, with Brittany not being spared. Though in the modern day it is felt that their own reformation was one without bloodshed, at least compared to others, it still entailed over a century of debates, dissenters, gunpowder, plots and treason. The end result was a church of compromise, which therefore satisfied none of the parties involved.

Brittany took part in several of the various stages of the Forty Years' War, initially joining upon the Roman side but switching later to the French. Though offered it did not take part in the talks at Tour, remaining aloof and wary of the new France born from the crucible of war. While France was occupied through the 17th and 18th centuries by internal change and foreign wars, Brittany looked outwards to its expanding colonial empire. Its East India Company began to take advantage of the chaos and disunity in the East Indies to carve out a personal fiefdom, one which would be later ceded to the state after its default.

Complacency would lead to great hardship during the rule of Henri Guerin in France. Brittany had eventually joined the coalition against the French, wary of the growing strength and zeal of their neighbour, only to rapidly lose the metropole within a matter of weeks in 1801. The Ducal family and a large portion of the nobility fled to Ouragwai, only returning to Brittany after Guerin's death and the abandonment of the territories he had occupied. In the treaties afterwards the Breton Dukes were elevated to Grand Dukes, placing them as near-equals of their fellow European monarchs.

Guerin was dead, but as in France his legacy cast a long shadow. France was no longer the distracted, bloated behemoth which had shielded Brittany from the rest of Europe. Here now was a monstrous military state capable of extinguishing Breton liberty within a month. Fears of a French return proved to be unfounded, with France focusing upon following Brittany's example and reaching outwards. Both nations took great swathes of Africa, their territories confirmed in the Conference of x. When the next war came, of 1876, Brittany knew better than to poke the awakened giant.

Now, forty years on, Brittany shoulders the burden of a colonial empire it can just about manage, and one eyed greedily by several other nations. Europe stands divided, between those who hate Germany, despise France, and abhor Rome. Choosing allies means deciding enemies, and neutrality means making enemies out of all. Further afield those in Ouragwai have begun voicing their desires for equality with Brittany and further self-government, while in the east the Asian states provide a constant threat to the security of the East Indies and Burma. This shall be the golden zenith of Brittany's glory, or the bitter nadir and its inglorious fall.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:16 pm

With the point of divergence so early, and North America so different, this is a real challenge to think outside the box.

I'm assuming that Protestantism still exists as a rebellion against the larger Chalcedonian Church. Given that Church's links to the various Roman Empires, I'd assume Protestantism to be infused with a healthy dose of anti-imperial sentiment.

So my vague idea is for a country that consists of England, Scotland, Wales, and the Dutch-speaking or Frisian-speaking areas of the Low Countries. The idea, essentially, is that after the retrenchment of the Western Empire to Italy, Germanic-speaking tribes settled England and much of Scotland as in our timeline. But there was no equivalent of the Norman Conquest, meaning that England and lowland Scotland remained in a broad cultural continuity with the people directly across the Channel in the Low Countries: speaking mutually intelligible languages, sharing quasi-democratic institutions like the moot and witan, all with powerful guilds and city leaders, a mercantile tradition, and military strategy based on well-motivated infantry rather than feudal cavalry. By the late Middle Ages, the Dutch cities are merchant republics, and England and Scotland are trending toward something like constitutional monarchy.

When the Reformation breaks out - presumably still in the early 16th century, since it would need to be shortly after the printing press's invention - it takes root most deeply in this Anglo-Dutch area of Northwest Europe. As a social movement, it is taken as an assault on the powers and wealth of the church (long resented by the merchant class), and as a check on the pretensions of imperial and feudal lordship. It is a movement by and for the educated, devout bourgeoisie: iconoclast in aesthetic, demanding in its morality, egalitarian in anthropology, republican in politics. All in all, rather like the Dutch Reformed Church of our own timeline.

This eventually leads to a religious war with at least the Western Roman Empire, and maybe the Central European Empire as well. Under the pressure of this war, the Anglo-Scots-Dutch - for whom I will have to invent a better name - form a military alliance that evolves into an early form of federal republic. This nation has been the dominant force in Northwest Europe ever since. In certain ways, it is familiar: it has a colonial empire focused on strategic islands and rich commodity-producing areas, rather than on large scale settler colonialism. In other ways, it is considerably more radical than anyone in our timeline; because it defines itself in opposition to Roman and Chalcedonian cultural models, it is intensely Puritan and Republican, with a combination of egalitarian politics, religious zeal, and capitalist verve that mostly disaggregated IRL after the 17th century.

Basically, if you crossed the Dutch Republic with the Covenanters and Cromwell's Commonwealth, and then had them all speak Old English, this is sort of what you would get 250 years later. Does that sound like it would work with the existing history? And how purple do we think Old Tyrannia got by the time he finished reading this?
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:10 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:With the point of divergence so early, and North America so different, this is a real challenge to think outside the box.

I'm assuming that Protestantism still exists as a rebellion against the larger Chalcedonian Church. Given that Church's links to the various Roman Empires, I'd assume Protestantism to be infused with a healthy dose of anti-imperial sentiment.

So my vague idea is for a country that consists of England, Scotland, Wales, and the Dutch-speaking or Frisian-speaking areas of the Low Countries. The idea, essentially, is that after the retrenchment of the Western Empire to Italy, Germanic-speaking tribes settled England and much of Scotland as in our timeline. But there was no equivalent of the Norman Conquest, meaning that England and lowland Scotland remained in a broad cultural continuity with the people directly across the Channel in the Low Countries: speaking mutually intelligible languages, sharing quasi-democratic institutions like the moot and witan, all with powerful guilds and city leaders, a mercantile tradition, and military strategy based on well-motivated infantry rather than feudal cavalry. By the late Middle Ages, the Dutch cities are merchant republics, and England and Scotland are trending toward something like constitutional monarchy.

When the Reformation breaks out - presumably still in the early 16th century, since it would need to be shortly after the printing press's invention - it takes root most deeply in this Anglo-Dutch area of Northwest Europe. As a social movement, it is taken as an assault on the powers and wealth of the church (long resented by the merchant class), and as a check on the pretensions of imperial and feudal lordship. It is a movement by and for the educated, devout bourgeoisie: iconoclast in aesthetic, demanding in its morality, egalitarian in anthropology, republican in politics. All in all, rather like the Dutch Reformed Church of our own timeline.

This eventually leads to a religious war with at least the Western Roman Empire, and maybe the Central European Empire as well. Under the pressure of this war, the Anglo-Scots-Dutch - for whom I will have to invent a better name - form a military alliance that evolves into an early form of federal republic. This nation has been the dominant force in Northwest Europe ever since. In certain ways, it is familiar: it has a colonial empire focused on strategic islands and rich commodity-producing areas, rather than on large scale settler colonialism. In other ways, it is considerably more radical than anyone in our timeline; because it defines itself in opposition to Roman and Chalcedonian cultural models, it is intensely Puritan and Republican, with a combination of egalitarian politics, religious zeal, and capitalist verve that mostly disaggregated IRL after the 17th century.

Basically, if you crossed the Dutch Republic with the Covenanters and Cromwell's Commonwealth, and then had them all speak Old English, this is sort of what you would get 250 years later. Does that sound like it would work with the existing history? And how purple do we think Old Tyrannia got by the time he finished reading this?

Deutschland from Pommerania till Ireland? :blink:

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:51 am

Reverend Norv wrote:<snip>

It's a nice idea, but unfortunately the British Isles have already been claimed. I think that the Netherlands are still available, though- and if the desire is to play an Old World Calvinist republic, a Huguenot France would be a possibility too.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:49 am

Reverend Norv wrote:Snip

Old Tyrannia wrote:It's a nice idea, but unfortunately the British Isles have already been claimed. I think that the Netherlands are still available, though- and if the desire is to play an Old World Calvinist republic, a Huguenot France would be a possibility too.

Yeah, unfortunatly Ty is right. While the British reservation might not be accepted with all of its European territories, Great Britain at the very least has been claimed. The Netherlands are still available, as is France (without Brittany). The idea of a Protestant/Huguenot France is pretty interesting.

I love the core idea though.

The Greater Chalcedonian Church is a bit of an anomaly, as the dogmatic differences between Orthodoxy and Catholicism still exist, and there was a short Schism, between 1054 and ~1400. As far as I remember from the discussions of the past iterations, Catholicism would still have the filioque, the Pope would still be trying to claim more influence than the Patriarchs in the East, and so on.
But, the Romans have maintained control over the Pentrarchy, and its the imperial power that has kept them together - that is why the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church are still in full communion. But it's a bit of a difficult situation - the emperor in Italy, or well, in this case, the empress in Italy, is theoretically subordinated to the emperor in Constantinople, but is practically independent, and this ceremonial subordination is an anachronism which creates plenty of tensions not only between the two imperial courts but also between the Pope and the Ecumenical Patriarch.

Regardless, with the emperor in Constantinople and the Patriarchs of the East having not intervened in the West in a long time, the Catholic Church most likely developed as it did, leading to the Reformation, and this movement could have most certainly have been created in opposition to the Chalcedonian Church and to the empire. There are a lot of interesting things that could be done there, but my knowledge on the Protestant Churches is incredibly limited, so I'm not sure how well your idea could be modified to fit something like France.
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Tracian Empire wrote:You'll have to wait for the main OP to come back online, but I highly doubt that you'd be able to receive all of those claims in Europe.

India as a whole is however clearly reserved for the time being so it's out of question.

Ah, didn’t notice

In your opinion what do you think sounds better, Anglo-Franco or Anglo-Swedish?

Honestly I'm not sure what to say now. Your claim for the British Isles and Canada would more than certainly be accepted, but I doubt that your claims in France and Scandinavia would be - in Scandinavia you'd take over an area that has regularly had active players, and you having northern France, besides from us not knowing exactly what you mean by Northern France, would be a big factor against players trying to create a !France.

There is still some time until the main OP will return though, so I will accept the British Isles and Canada, but I can not promise anything about the other territories until Oscal comes around.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:01 am

For now, I’ll just twiddle my thumbs and wait to see if the reservation for Britain ever actually turns into an accepted application. If not, I’ll press forward with my original idea. If so, I’ll consider France instead, though that would fairly dramatically change the national culture that I have conceptualized.
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Postby Plzen » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:23 am

Tracian Empire wrote:in Scandinavia you'd take over an area that has regularly had active players...

Exilvania invited me to play Scandinavia again.

As I've already told him, I'm a little bit busy at the moment - especially considering how high the writing standards for Alternative Divergence RPs have been - but I'm certainly keeping an eye on this. I will have a clear schedule in (hopefully) two or three days, and if nobody's taken more chunks out of the Nordic Region by then (Russia's Finland reservation and British ambitions for an Anglo-Scandinavian application, especially, are concerning) I'd be interested in the region.

This is not a reservation, because I'm not completely confident that my schedule will in fact be clear in another half a week, so if someone else wants Scandinavia, I'm happy to let them have it.

Also, by-the-by, do you have a separate planning forum for this series of RPs? Because every time I see one of these threads I already see 4~5 reservations on it before I can even tag the thread...
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Postby Reverend Norv » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:51 am

Actually, scrap that. I'm going to go ahead and reserve France. I've got a tentative idea of how this would work, and it's become a more appealing idea to me than my original one.

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Nation Name: The French Republic
Territory: France (except for Brittany), Wallonia, the island of Hispaniola (if Jade Confederacy will agree), Algeria, Morocco, Mauretania, the West African coast from Senegal to the Cote d'Ivoire, the Cape, and Mumbai/Bombay and immediate environs.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:25 am

Reverend Norv wrote:Actually, scrap that. I'm going to go ahead and reserve France. I've got a tentative idea of how this would work, and it's become a more appealing idea to me than my original one.

Reservation

Nation Name: The French Republic
Territory: France (except for Brittany), Wallonia, the island of Hispaniola (if Jade Confederacy will agree), Algeria, Morocco, Mauretania, the West African coast from Senegal to the Cote d'Ivoire, the Cape, and Mumbai/Bombay and immediate environs.
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Hispaniola depends on Jade Confederacy yes, and those Indian territories, even if they aren't on the map, are theoretically reserved for a a day or so more I think.

The rest of the reservation is however accepted!
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Tracian Empire wrote:in Scandinavia you'd take over an area that has regularly had active players...

Exilvania invited me to play Scandinavia again.

As I've already told him, I'm a little bit busy at the moment - especially considering how high the writing standards for Alternative Divergence RPs have been - but I'm certainly keeping an eye on this. I will have a clear schedule in (hopefully) two or three days, and if nobody's taken more chunks out of the Nordic Region by then (Russia's Finland reservation and British ambitions for an Anglo-Scandinavian application, especially, are concerning) I'd be interested in the region.

This is not a reservation, because I'm not completely confident that my schedule will in fact be clear in another half a week, so if someone else wants Scandinavia, I'm happy to let them have it.

Also, by-the-by, do you have a separate planning forum for this series of RPs? Because every time I see one of these threads I already see 4~5 reservations on it before I can even tag the thread...

Well yeah, as of right now we are still waiting for Oscal to make a decision, but some of us do think that accepting the British ambitions in Scandinavia might be a bit too much. We'll see what happens, but reservations do last for 72 hours.

There is also the fact that we are using pretty much the same app format as before, so you could use your previous app as a model, if Scandinavia will be free.

As for that, no, we don't have a planning forum, we have Discord. Considering that we've generally had issues with activity, we try to invite potentially interested people from before we actually launch it. In this case however, we just forgot to take a proper look at the previous thread, otherwise we would have invited you from the beginning.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:38 am

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The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Ah, didn’t notice

In your opinion what do you think sounds better, Anglo-Franco or Anglo-Swedish?

Honestly I'm not sure what to say now. Your claim for the British Isles and Canada would more than certainly be accepted, but I doubt that your claims in France and Scandinavia would be - in Scandinavia you'd take over an area that has regularly had active players, and you having northern France, besides from us not knowing exactly what you mean by Northern France, would be a big factor against players trying to create a !France.

There is still some time until the main OP will return though, so I will accept the British Isles and Canada, but I can not promise anything about the other territories until Oscal comes around.

I’m leaning on Anglo-Franco. Basically the alternate history is that England won the Hundred Years War, but the war was so bloody that England only took Northern France. Cultural conversion and incorporation means that by the 1900s Northern France has mostly been pacified and incorporated (which I would think 450 years of incorporation would do)

My Anglo-Swedish is a bit more far fetched (Charles II fled to Sweden instead of Spain, married into the Swedish Royal Family, took back England with Swedish armies, and declared a union), so yeah

Also at the very least could I also have South Africa as well?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:40 am

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Plzen wrote:Exilvania invited me to play Scandinavia again.

As I've already told him, I'm a little bit busy at the moment - especially considering how high the writing standards for Alternative Divergence RPs have been - but I'm certainly keeping an eye on this. I will have a clear schedule in (hopefully) two or three days, and if nobody's taken more chunks out of the Nordic Region by then (Russia's Finland reservation and British ambitions for an Anglo-Scandinavian application, especially, are concerning) I'd be interested in the region.

This is not a reservation, because I'm not completely confident that my schedule will in fact be clear in another half a week, so if someone else wants Scandinavia, I'm happy to let them have it.

Also, by-the-by, do you have a separate planning forum for this series of RPs? Because every time I see one of these threads I already see 4~5 reservations on it before I can even tag the thread...

Well yeah, as of right now we are still waiting for Oscal to make a decision, but some of us do think that accepting the British ambitions in Scandinavia might be a bit too much. We'll see what happens, but reservations do last for 72 hours.

There is also the fact that we are using pretty much the same app format as before, so you could use your previous app as a model, if Scandinavia will be free.

As for that, no, we don't have a planning forum, we have Discord. Considering that we've generally had issues with activity, we try to invite potentially interested people from before we actually launch it. In this case however, we just forgot to take a proper look at the previous thread, otherwise we would have invited you from the beginning.

I'd advise against discord if you have activity issues. Discord generally results in a few very active players getting in a lot, but other players being left by the wayside. Especially if only those few active players can effectively contribute to world-building.
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Tracian Empire wrote:Honestly I'm not sure what to say now. Your claim for the British Isles and Canada would more than certainly be accepted, but I doubt that your claims in France and Scandinavia would be - in Scandinavia you'd take over an area that has regularly had active players, and you having northern France, besides from us not knowing exactly what you mean by Northern France, would be a big factor against players trying to create a !France.

There is still some time until the main OP will return though, so I will accept the British Isles and Canada, but I can not promise anything about the other territories until Oscal comes around.

I’m leaning on Anglo-Franco. Basically the alternate history is that England won the Hundred Years War, but the war was so bloody that England only took Northern France. Cultural conversion and incorporation means that by the 1900s Northern France has mostly been pacified and incorporated (which I would think 450 years of incorporation would do)

My Anglo-Swedish is a bit more far fetched (Charles II fled to Sweden instead of Spain, married into the Swedish Royal Family, took back England with Swedish armies, and declared a union), so yeah

Also at the very least could I also have South Africa as well?

Oof, the issue is unfortunately pretty simple. You holding Northern France would basically castrate the region and significantly weaken France. You owning Scandinavia would remove the possibility for a player to make an app there. These regions are prime real estate so to say, and we really can't give them as easily as that.

If you want to build a history which incorporates relations with France or Scandinavia, you can most certainly try to do that, but there isn't a strong case for you to own those territories in the present, especially a Great Britain would colonies would be more than powerful enough on its own.

The Anglo-Swedish idea is certainly a bit too far fetched - I doubt that something like that could keep the union together, considering how different Scandinavia and the British Isles are. If you want some Nordic flavor in your nation you could go further back into time and do something with Canute or with Harold Hardrada.
As for France, we decided to accept Reverend Norv with a claim there, so you should try to discuss history with him, maybe your nation could have remained Catholic as France was turning Protestant, or something along those lines - you'd have to talk with him.
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Tracian Empire wrote:Well yeah, as of right now we are still waiting for Oscal to make a decision, but some of us do think that accepting the British ambitions in Scandinavia might be a bit too much. We'll see what happens, but reservations do last for 72 hours.

There is also the fact that we are using pretty much the same app format as before, so you could use your previous app as a model, if Scandinavia will be free.

As for that, no, we don't have a planning forum, we have Discord. Considering that we've generally had issues with activity, we try to invite potentially interested people from before we actually launch it. In this case however, we just forgot to take a proper look at the previous thread, otherwise we would have invited you from the beginning.

I'd advise against discord if you have activity issues. Discord generally results in a few very active players getting in a lot, but other players being left by the wayside. Especially if only those few active players can effectively contribute to world-building.

That's true, and I fully agree with you - that's why we don't have an official Discord or anything. We have a Discord for the members of the OP board as it eases our discussions and decisions, and we did invite several people to the roleplay over on Discord because it was the easiest way to contact them - but we will try to keep all roleplay related activity here on the OOC.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:04 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:I’m leaning on Anglo-Franco. Basically the alternate history is that England won the Hundred Years War, but the war was so bloody that England only took Northern France. Cultural conversion and incorporation means that by the 1900s Northern France has mostly been pacified and incorporated (which I would think 450 years of incorporation would do)

My Anglo-Swedish is a bit more far fetched (Charles II fled to Sweden instead of Spain, married into the Swedish Royal Family, took back England with Swedish armies, and declared a union), so yeah

Also at the very least could I also have South Africa as well?

Oof, the issue is unfortunately pretty simple. You holding Northern France would basically castrate the region and significantly weaken France. You owning Scandinavia would remove the possibility for a player to make an app there. These regions are prime real estate so to say, and we really can't give them as easily as that.

If you want to build a history which incorporates relations with France or Scandinavia, you can most certainly try to do that, but there isn't a strong case for you to own those territories in the present, especially a Great Britain would colonies would be more than powerful enough on its own.

The Anglo-Swedish idea is certainly a bit too far fetched - I doubt that something like that could keep the union together, considering how different Scandinavia and the British Isles are. If you want some Nordic flavor in your nation you could go further back into time and do something with Canute or with Harold Hardrada.
As for France, we decided to accept Reverend Norv with a claim there, so you should try to discuss history with him, maybe your nation could have remained Catholic as France was turning Protestant, or something along those lines - you'd have to talk with him.

I Guess the isles and colonies would be just fine

Could I at least also get South Africa?
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Nation Name: UK of Portugal, Brazil, And the Algarve
Territory: Portugal, Brazil (plus uruguay), and spanish galicia if possible
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:07 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Oof, the issue is unfortunately pretty simple. You holding Northern France would basically castrate the region and significantly weaken France. You owning Scandinavia would remove the possibility for a player to make an app there. These regions are prime real estate so to say, and we really can't give them as easily as that.

If you want to build a history which incorporates relations with France or Scandinavia, you can most certainly try to do that, but there isn't a strong case for you to own those territories in the present, especially a Great Britain would colonies would be more than powerful enough on its own.

The Anglo-Swedish idea is certainly a bit too far fetched - I doubt that something like that could keep the union together, considering how different Scandinavia and the British Isles are. If you want some Nordic flavor in your nation you could go further back into time and do something with Canute or with Harold Hardrada.
As for France, we decided to accept Reverend Norv with a claim there, so you should try to discuss history with him, maybe your nation could have remained Catholic as France was turning Protestant, or something along those lines - you'd have to talk with him.

I Guess the isles and colonies would be just fine

Could I at least also get South Africa?

France claimed the Cape, which I assume to be the real life Western Cape province of South Africa, but you can get the rest certainly.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:08 am

-The Dominion of Canada- wrote:
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Nation Name: UK of Portugal, Brazil, And the Algarve
Territory: Portugal, Brazil (plus uruguay), and spanish galicia if possible
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Sorry, the map and the list are in the middle of being updated, Portugal and Spanish Galicia are claimed, as is Uruguay, Brazil is however free.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:22 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:I Guess the isles and colonies would be just fine

Could I at least also get South Africa?

France claimed the Cape, which I assume to be the real life Western Cape province of South Africa, but you can get the rest certainly.

I’m gonna have to edit the app a bit

And yes the rest of South Africa would be nice

And the US East Coast has been claimed right?
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:28 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:France claimed the Cape, which I assume to be the real life Western Cape province of South Africa, but you can get the rest certainly.

I’m gonna have to edit the app a bit

And yes the rest of South Africa would be nice

And the US East Coast has been claimed right?

Yeah, by a Spanish-American state.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:38 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:I’m gonna have to edit the app a bit

And yes the rest of South Africa would be nice

And the US East Coast has been claimed right?

Yeah, by a Spanish-American state.

*swears in British Empire*
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Nation Name: British Empire (official)/United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (official)/Germanic Kingdom of Britannia (unofficial)
Territory: British Isles, Ontario Region, Quebec Region, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, rest of South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Nigeria, Cameroon (basically, as Britain lost America and Asia was too hard to tackle, Britain concentrated her colonial efforts in Africa)
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Βασιλεία τῶν Ῥωμαίων
Βασιλεία Ῥωμαίων
Basileia tōn Rhōmaiōn
Basileía Rhōmaíōn

The Empire of the Romans
The Roman Empire

Η βασιλεύς Σύγκλητος και ο Λαός της Ρώμης
I Basileus Sýnklitos kai o Laós tis Rómis
The Emperor, Senate and People of Rome

Βασιλεύς Βασιλέων Βασιλεύων Βασιλευόντων!
Basiléus Basiléon Basilévon Basilevónton!
Emperor or Emperors, Ruling Over Those Who Rule!


Full Nation Name : The Roman Empire (Βασιλεία Ῥωμαίων-Basileía Rhōmaíōn|(Imperium Romanum), the Empire of the Romans (Βασιλεία τῶν Ῥωμαίων-Basileia tōn Rhōmaiōn|Ἀρχὴ τῶν Ῥωμαίων-Archē tōn Rhōmaiōn|Imperium Romanorum). The phrase: the Emperor, Senate, and People of Rome (Η βασιλεύς Σύγκλητος και ο Λαός της Ρώμης - I Basileus Sýnklitos kai o Laós tis Rómis|Imperator Senatusque Populusque Romanus) is used to officially refer to the Roman state, which is also commonly referred to simply as Rome (Ρώμη-Rómi|Roma) or the New Rome (Νέα Ῥώμη-Néa Rómi|Nova Roma). Other names like the Roman Republic (Πολιτεία τῶν Ῥωμαίων-Politeia tōn Rhōmaiōn|Res Publica Romana) and Rhomania (Ῥωμανία|the Land of the Romans), with the derived (Βασιλεια Ρωμανια-Basileia Rhōmania|Imperium Romaniae) also exist. Foreigners sometimes use the historical exonyms of the Byzantine Empire (Bυζαντινή Αυτοκρατορία-Byzantiní Autokratoría|Imperium Byzantinium), or of the Eastern Roman Empire (Ανατολική Ρωμαϊκή Αυτοκρατορία-Anatolikí Romaïkí Autokratoría|Imperium Romanum Orientale) but they are not actively used by the Romans themselves. The nation is also sometimes designated as the Empire of the Greeks (Βασιλεία των Ελλήνων-Basileia ton Ellínon|Imperium Graecorum), but its usage is considered to be an insult by the Romans.

Majority/Official Culture : As most things in this ancient empire, the situation is complicated. The main and official culture recognized by the government is the Roman culture (Ρωμαϊκή-Romaïkí), which in this case strictly refers to the culture of the Eastern Empire.The Roman view on the culture of its citizens is a little different from the view held by most of the other nations of Europe. The Roman perspective is based around the concept of Ρωμανότητα-Romanótita (Romanity, or Romanism). This is the idea of the Roman civilization and culture rather than the ethnic reality. Included among its concepts are the very ideals of the Roman Empire and of the Roman people, military, and government. The inhabitants of the Empire refer to themselves as Roman (Ρωμαιοι-Romaioi) or Roman citizens (Ρωμαίοι πολίτες-Romaíoi polítes), and consider themselves to be the true Romans, the true heirs of Ancient Rome. To be a Roman citizen is more than belonging to a simple ethnic group, it’s to accept that you belong to world of right belief and order, to belong to the one, true, universal empire, and the one, true, universal faith. The Romans consider their realm to be a part of God’s plan, to be the earthly reflection of the Kingdom of Heaven, an empire destined to endure until the second coming. Being part of this empire, accepting its mission means being a true Roman, it means taking part in God’s plan for the world and protecting the empire until it will truly rule the entire world again. Ethnicity and blood pale in front of such substance, and as such, the pillars of the Roman civilization are what unites the Roman citizens. The use of the true Roman language, the (Ρωμαικα-Romaika|Roman/ Roman language) what some may call “Greek”, the one true Orthodox Christian faith, and subordination to the imperial authority. The Roman identity and culture of today is a true successor of both the Roman and the Hellenistic worlds of the Antiquity and of the Middle Ages. And the Romans of the East, while aware of their Greek origins, fully consider themselves to be the heirs of Rome, to be the ones carrying the flame of both Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece onward into the future.

Other cultures which refuse to acknowledge this divinely ordained scheme of things or dare to challenge are guilty of a form of heresy in the eyes of the Roman culture, to be pitied or to be condemned, as people of the nations (έθνη), and as barbarians (βάρβαροι). Followers of different faiths, like Muslims or Babylonian pagans are pitied as victims of invincible ignorance, while those who willingly reject the truth, like the Protestant heretics of France, are nothing more than wilful and unrepentant deviationists. Such cultures present throughout the Empire are then actively persecuted using this reasoning, being forced to go through a cultural process known as Romanization, the process of acculturation, integration and assimilation of those inhabitants of the Empire which do not belong to the Roman culture. The process itself contains a variety of methods, and is justified by the imperial government as an attempt to civilize barbarian people. Perhaps more aggressive than the Romanization of the antiquity, this process has been raised to the status of a state policy during the Empire's long existence, with it being currently used in some areas of Egypt, Sudan and certain parts of the Levant. The process is mostly based on the strong promotion or even enforcement of Greek, of Roman laws and customs, and of Orthodox Christianity, an attempt to eradicate the cultural and religious identity of those groups that are Romanized, accomplished through various means, like forced conversions, the existence of Roman colonists, education controlled by the Roman state, depopulation and forced resettlement, together with certain incentives, like granting the Roman citizenship to those loyal to the Empire.

Territorial Core :
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  • 1. Theme of Thrace|Thema Thrakēs - Θέμα Θράκης|Adrianople
  • 2. Theme of Scythia|Thema Skýthis - Θέμα Σκύθης |Constantia
  • 3. Theme of Paristrion|Thema Paristrion - Θέμα Παρίστριον|Dorostolon
  • 4. Theme of Strymon|Thema Strymōnos - Θέμα Στρυμώνος|Serres
  • 5. Theme of Thessalonica|Thema Thessalonikēs - Θέμα Θεσσαλονίκης|Thessaloniki
  • 6. Theme of Diocleia| Thema Diokleías - Θέμα Διοκλείας |Nysos
  • 7. Theme of Dyrrachium|Thema Dyrrhachiou - Θέμα Δυρραχίου|Dyrrachium
  • 8. Theme of Nicopolis|Thema Nikopoleōs - Θέμα Νικοπόλεως|Nikópolis
  • 9. Theme of Hellas|Thema Helladikoi - Θέμα Ελλαδικών|Thebes
  • 10. Despotate of Morea|Despotáton toú Moréos - Δεσποτᾶτον τοῦ Μορέως|Mystras
  • 11. Theme of the Aegean Sea|Thema Aigaiou Pelàgous - Θέμα του Αιγαίου Πελάγους|Mytilene
  • 12. Theme of Crete| Thema Krētēs - Θέμα Κρήτης|Megalo Kastro
  • 13. Theme of Cyprus|Thema Kyprou - Θέμα Κύπρου|Lefkosia
  • 14. Theme of Optimates|Thema Optimatōn - Θέμα Ὀπτιμάτων|Nicomedia
  • 15. Theme of Opsikion|Thema Opsikiou - Θέμα Ὀψικίου|Nicaea
  • 16. Theme of Samos|Thema Samou - Θέμα Σάμου|Smyrna
  • 17. Theme of the Cibyrrhaeots|Thema Kibyrrhaiotōn - Θέμα Κιβυρραιωτῶν|Attaleia
  • 18. Theme of the Anatolics|Thema Anatolikōn - Θέμα Άνατολικῶν| Amorion
  • 19. Theme of the Bucellarians|Thema Boukellariōn - Θέμα Βουκελλαρίων|Ancyra
  • 20. Theme of Paphlagonia|Thema Paphlagonias - Θέμα Παφλαγονίας|Gangra
  • 21. Theme of the Armeniacs|Thema Armeniakōn - Θέμα Άρμενιάκων|Amaseia
  • 22. Theme of Cappadocia|Thema Kappadokias - Θέμα Καππαδοκίας|Tyana
  • 23. Theme of Seleucia|Thema Seleukeias - Θέμα Σελευκείας|Seleukeia
  • 24. Despotate of Trebizond|Despotáton tis Trapezoúntas - Δεσποτᾶτον της Τραπεζούντας|Trapezous/Trebizond
  • 25. Theme of Koloneia|Thema Kolōneias - Θέμα Κολωνείας|Koloneia
  • 26. Theme of Cilicia|Thema Kilikías - Θέμα Κιλικίας|Adana
  • 27. Theme of Iberia|Thema 'Ivirías - Θέμα 'Ιβηρίας|Theodosiopolis
  • 28. Theme of Vaasprakania|Thema Vaasprakanías - Θέμα Βαασπρακανίας|Eua
  • 29. Theme of Mesopotamia|Thema Mesopotamias - Θέμα Μεσοποταμίας|Kamacha
  • 30. Theme of Melitene|Thema Melitenéos - Θέμα Μελιτενέος|Melitene
  • 31. Theme of Antioch|Thema Antiócheia - Θέμα Αντιόχεια|Antioch
  • 32. Theme of Palmyra|Thema Palmyrénio - Θέμα Παλμυρένιο|Palmyra
  • 33. Theme of Syria|Thema Sýrios - Θέμα Σύριος|Dionysias
  • 34. Theme of the Galilee|Thema Galilaíos - Θέμα Γαλιλαίος|Berytus
  • 35. Theme of Palestine|Thema Palaistínios - Θέμα Παλαιστίνιος|Jerusalem
  • 36. Theme of Arabia|Thema Arabikós - Θέμα Aραβικός|Eliat
  • 37. Theme of Sinai|Thema Sinaíos - Θέμα Σιναίος|Saint Catherine
  • 38. Exarchate of Alexandria|Exarchía tis Alexándreias - Εξαρχία της Αλεξάνδρειας|Alexandria
  • 39. Exarchate of Syrene|Exarchía tou Syrene - Εξαρχία του Συρενη|Syene
  • 40. Despotate of Taurica|Despotátis tis Tavrikís - Δεσποτάτης της Ταυρικής|Cherson
  • 41. Exarchate of Nubia|Exarchía tou Noubia - Εξαρχία του Νουβία|Meroe

Territorial Claim: At least as a part of the Roman imperial theory, the Romans consider all the countries which belonged to the Roman orbis, to the Roman world, to be their everlasting and incontestable posessions, as the inhabitants of the one universal empire which survived the storms of the barbarian invasions. As such, territories in West have been considered ever since the Middle Ages to be simply the pars occidentalis of the empire, temporarily fallen into barbarian hands due to the sins of mankind. This translated during the Middle Ages in the slightly more pragmatic concept of an European family of kings, with the institution of complicated honorary degrees of affinity granted to other European monarchs by the Roman Emperors from their position as the head of this family, as the paterfamilias. In practice however, this imperial theory has never quite recovered from the countless shocks which it has received througout history, and such ancient claims have been ignored for centuries. The current, more pragmatic Roman foreign policy simply wishes to secure its borders, to strengthen the empire's position in Africa and to ensure that the straits of Dire are controlled by a friendly power. The Romans also wish to somehow solve the issue of the Hesperium Imperium in Italy.
Capital City : Constantinople, Konstantinoupolis, the New Rome, the Second Rome, the Eastern Rome, Roma Constantinopolitana, the Queen of Cities, the Great City, the City of the Emperors, the Reigning City, the City, the God-Guarded City, Great City of the Romans, the Throne of the Romans, the Eye of the World, the Envy of the World, the City of the World's Desire,the City of Sins, Byzantium. One of the greatest cities of Europe and Asia, the capital of Constantine the Great, spread on both sides of the Bosporus Strait, this ancient city continues to impress and amaze.
Symbols:
In regards to color, Tyrian purple is the official one, representing the imperial authority, and the Emperor. But because of the price of the purple dye, the purple is generally reserved only for those flags and emblems used personally by the Emperor, while red is used for the rest.

Population : Around 58 million
Government Type : The Roman Empire is traditionally considered to be a highly administrative and bureaucratic caesaropapist absolute monarchy, with the Roman Emperor holding the supreme authority in both secular and religious matters. In practice however, the empire has certain elements which would belong to a more mixed type government. The monarchy is of course, clearly embodied in the person of the Emperor, the aristocracy is largely represented by the Senate, and certain democratic elements are also present, like the existence of a constitution of sorts, and the presence of the recently introduced great public gatherings inspired by the Ancient Roman assemblies. For the time being, the Roman state seems to advocate the balance between the Emperor, the Senate, and the People of Rome as the ideal form of government, but the fact that the Roman Empire is still very much an autocracy can not be easily masked.
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialism, Conservatism, Roman Nationalism, Orthodox Traditionalism, Irredentism, Pragmatism
Government Focus : The Roman Government is currently focusing on strengthening the nation, its power and its prestige, and on staying ahead of its rivals.
Head of State: Basileus Autokrator Mikhail Palaiologos Sebastos (Short Title)
His Imperial Majesty, Mikhael Palaiologos, in Christ Basileus and Autokrator of the Romans, Kaisar and Despot of the New Rome, Forever Sebastos and Sotiras, Porphyrogennetos, Viceroy of Jesus Christ on Earth, the Pious and the Blessed, Defender of the One True Orthodox Faith, Great Protector of the Holy Cities of Constantinople, Rome, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Alexandria, Lord of the Mare Nostrum, Sovereign of the Holy Order of the True Cross, Grand Master of the Order of Saint Andrew, of the Order of Constantine the Great and of the Order of Justinian the Great, Emperor of Emperors, King of Kings, Ruling Over Those Who Rule (Grand Title)
Head of Government : Grand Logothete and Hypatos Alexandros Kantakouzenos
Government Description :
The Roman Empire is considered to be the earthly reflection of the Kingdom of Heaven, the perfect form of government, as God had intended it to be, more than just a temporal phenomenon, but as the perfect realm that will survive through the ages until the Second Coming and the Final Judgement. For the Romans, this presents itself largely as a Cesaropapist Absolute Monarchy, combined with elements which can practically turn it into a more mixed and balanced government. The element of monarchy is of course, represented by the Emperor, the oligarchic/aristocratic element is represented by the Senate, and the democratic element is represented by the recently introduced great public gatherings of the assemblies. A small theocratic element also exists in the form of the Roman Orthodox Church, represented through the Four Patriarchies under Roman control, which have a lot of influence in the Empire's affairs, and through the divine mandate and role of the emperor.
Despite the unrestricted power of the Basileus which effectively makes it an absolute monarchy, the Roman Empire has a constitution of sorts, the Σύνταγμα τῶν Ῥωμαίων-Sýntagma tōn Rhōmaiōn (the Constitution of the Romans) The Constitution was officially adopted in 1848, and its purpose is to guarantee Roman citizens certain rights against any oppression, and to keep a theoretical balance between the three main powers of the Roman State, but it is still pretty far away from the constitutions of democratic states.

The first and most important power belongs to the Basileus. Known as the Emperor and Autocrat of the Romans, the monarch has the supreme authority in both secular and religious matters, acting like a true absolute monarch. He is the elect of God, crowned by God and guarded by God, his person is scared, and he is ruling from the Sacred Palace in the Queen of Cities as God's regent on Earth. He is the terrestrial image of the Logos of God. He governs the the Empire, under his supreme executive power, his primary legislative authority, and his divine mandate as Viceroy of Jesus Christ. The political powers of the other magistrates are subsidiary to and derived from his as he stands on the top of the Roman state's hierarchy. He is unquestionable, and he can theoretically dissolve the Senate at any moment's notice. The Emperor is also in charge of naming the military commanders of all provinces, and through his power to command, he is also the supreme commander of the military. From nearly all points of view, he is an absolute monarch, and his rights and attributions are outlined in the Law of the Emperor. Violating his sacrosanctity is considered to be the highest form sacrilege and treason - punishable by death.

The Roman Empire has a complicated succession system, mostly inherited from its ancient and medieval past. At least in theory, the succession to the imperial throne is hereditary, following the agnatic-cognatic primogeniture principle. The oldest child of the ruler inherits all titles, and women are able to gain the imperial throne if there are no eligible males. The succession is also dynastic, for a ruler to inherit the throne, he or she has to be blood-connected to the Palaiologos Dynasty. However, the Roman system has certain particularities which make the succession pretty complicated. The first particularity is the existence of the purple-born system. The title of purple-born means that children born under certain conditions can have a higher position in the line of succession. For a prince or princess of the imperial family to be purple-born, they must respect certain requirements. The child has to be legitimate, born in the Purple Room of the Great Palace of Constantinople. The child's father must be a reigning Emperor, and the child's mother must be an Empress, married to the Emperor. The Empress also must have undergone a formal, sacred ceremony creating her an Augusta. Children who meet all these conditions receive the honorary title of Πορφυρογέννητος-Porphyrogennetos or Πορφυρογέννητη-Porphyrogénnētē, and they rank higher in the succession line than those who don't, like children born to an Emperor before his coronation, children who weren't born in Constantinople, or children who were born to a concubine.

The other particularity is that the Emperors are able to nominate their successors, even if those successors are not in line with the agnatic-cognatic primogeniture system - the only requirement is for them to be a part of the dynasty. Successors are normally nominated by being awarded important titles, like the title of Despot. It has already become a custom for the Emperor to nominate his successor by awarding him or her the title of Despot or Despotess of the Morea. The other way for an Emperor to nominate his successor is to raise a member of the dynasty to the rank of co-emperor. A co-emperor is the awarded the title of Kaisar, ranking immediately below the original Emperor. As such, when the older emperor eventually died his successor would already be crowned and have experience at ruling, decreasing the risk of rebellion or usurpation. This practice has however fallen out of use due to the internal stability that the Empire has been experiencing for the past few centuries.

The second power in the Roman Empire is formed by the Roman Senate (Ρωμαϊκή Σύγκλητος-Romaïkí Sýnklitos), the unicameral assembly of the Roman senators. A quarter of its members are appointed by the emperor while the other three quarters are elected by the assemblies of the Roman citizens and accepted by the emperor once every five years. The Senate has a certain legislative power, while also having a role in governing the Empire. Traditionally, the Senate has been a place of the patricians, the aristocracy, and that is visible even today, as the most influential political faction of the Senate represents the nobility. But over the half century, a series of reforms has led to plebeians entering the Senate, and currently, a faction of the Senate which represents the interests of the general population and especially of the developing bourgeoisie has been gaining more and more power. The Empire lacks the traditional, European concept of political parties - instead, the senatorial factions, like in the days of old, have come to be associated with the chariot factions of Constantinople, the so called demes (δήμοι). The Blue deme is mostly associated with the aristocratic/imperial faction, while the Greens are closely associated with the more liberal and progressive part of the Senate. The Red deme, dead for centuries, has also been recently recreated.

The Emperor has the theoretical power to dissolve the Senate at will, but that has never happened in the last half century, and the Senate itself has the power to protest against any decisions of the Emperor that seem unfair, through a system of official petitions.

The Senate is theoretically led by the Consul (Yπατος-Hypatos), a mostly ceremonial position. The Hypatos supervises and organizes the debates and the affairs of the Senate, and more often than not, the one receiving this position is the one also holding the position of the Grand Logothete (Μέγας Λογοθέτης-Megas Logothetes), the leader of the Roman administration. His role is to supervise and coordinate the departments of the administration, which are led by the Logothetes (Λογοθέτης-Logothetes),who are acting like ministers. The Logothetes are chosen by the Emperor personally, but the monarch has to justify his decision, and more often than not, the Logothetes require the support of one of the senatorial factions.

The third power in the state theoretically belongs to the common citizens, the People of Rome (Λαός της Ρώμης-Laós tis Rómis). Their power is exercised through their right of assembly. If the Emperor considers that a certain law does require the opinion of the people, he can call upon large public assemblies. Anyone with the Roman citizenship who takes part in such an assembly gets one vote. A single conglomeration of voting citizens making a legally potent action is a Popular Assembly (Λαϊκή Συνέλευση-Laïkí Synélefsi), and all these assemblies are known together as the People's Councils (Λαϊκά Συμβούλια-Laïká Symvoúlia).

The Roman citizens enjoy extensive rights and obligations, and from this point of view, although they live in an absolute monarchy, the Roman citizens sometimes enjoy more freedom than the citizens of many other nations. The Roman citizenship (Ρωμαϊκή Iθαγένεια-Romaïkí Ithagéneia) is the individual possession of every Roman man recognized as such by the Roman Senate. For a person to be a Roman citizen (Ρωμαίος πολίτης-Romaíos polítis) they must be 16 years of age or older and they must satisfy one of the following conditions:
  • To be born to two Roman citizens.
  • To be born to one Roman citizen within a Roman province and to have served a set term in the Roman military.
  • To be recognized as a citizen by the Emperor or the Senate.

The citizenship of a Roman citizen is irrevocable without extreme violations of the Empire's laws and regulations. Only men can vote and be elected in the Roman Senate or in any other positions in the imperial administration. While in Roman territory, citizens of nations allied to the Roman Empire receive certain rights, similar to a limited form of citizenship. However, all foreigners on Roman territory have certain inalienable rights, and one of them is the right to their freedom - slavery is theoretically illegal in the Roman Empire, and capturing people to be sold as slaves, selling slaves, and owning slaves are heavily condemned in most circumstances. Still, not all the people living inside the borders of the Empire are recognized as citizens. The unofficial criteria in order to be accepted as a Roman citizen is to speak Greek, to be a member of the Orthodox Church and to follow the Roman customs. As such, many other ethnic and cultural groups are oppressed and not recognized as Roman, and members of such minorities are, besides from the cultural oppression, sometimes forced or influenced into accepting milder forms of slavery, which more of most them brings with it a much situation than the one they were born in. Such unofficial forms of slavery are sometimes ignored, but the number of actual slaves is relatively limited.

The fourth, unofficial power is represented by the Roman Orthodox Church (Ρωμαϊκή Ορθόδοξη Εκκλησία-Romaïkí Orthódoxi Ekklisía). The Roman Orthodoxy is the official religion of the Roman Empire, and the Four Patriarchs must be confirmed by the Emperor before being chosen. In exchange for the protection of the Emperor, the Orthodox Church continues to recognize the Roman Emperor as the Viceroy of Jesus Christ on Earth, and the Roman Empire as the true successor of the Roman Empire of old.

As such, the ideal Roman Empire should exist through the balance between the Emperor, the Senate, and the People of Rome (Η βασιλεύς Σύγκλητος και ο Λαός της Ρώμης-I Basileus Sýnklitos kai o Laós tis Rómis), and under the blessings of the Roman Church (Ρωμαϊκή Εκκλησία-Romaïkí Ekklisía).

From an administrative and military point of view, the Roman Empire follows the principles of the so called system of themes. The main administrative division of this system is a theme (θέμα - théma), known in plural as themes (θέματα - thémata). The main particularity of its system is its double existence, as it is used both by the military and by the civil administration of the Empire. The origin of the themata lies in the Slavic and Arabic invasions of the 7th century, when the old Roman provincial system created by Diocletian and Constantine was abandoned. The areas of encampment formed by the field armies of the Roman Army served as the basis of this system, which allowed the Roman Empire to successfully survive this crisis. The themata were then periodically reorganized and improved, in the 11th, in the 12th, in the 15 and in the 18th centuries, with the most recent changes having been applied in 1848.
Each theme is led by a military commander known as a Strategos (Στρατηγός), plural Strategoi(Στρατηγοί). The Strategoi are named and sacked directly by the Emperor, and they answer to him personally. As such, their authority is derived directly from that of the monarch, and all their decisions and orders are made in the Emperor's name. The Strategos enjoys near unlimited military authority in his own theme, being directly responsible for the theme's defense. He is seconded by the Antistrategos (Aντιστράτηγος), another military officer, the second in command of a theme's military forces. The civilian government of such a province, in charge of the administrative and civilian matters, is the Anthypatos (Aνθύπατος), who deals with the civilian, administrative, and economic issues of a theme. The central administration in Constantinople closely supervises the work of the three officials in each and every one of the themes, in order to prevent corruption and to maximize their performance. With such a pressure and with an organized and centralized authority, the regional officials tend to be extremely competent.

There are however some exceptions from the themata system. The first of them is represented by the city of Constantinople. Theoretically under the authority of the Theme of Thrace, the city of Constantinople is an independent division. It is considered to be the Emperor's personal domain, and it is led by the military officer known as the Protostrategos (Πρωτοστράτηγος) of Constantinople, and by the civilian official known as the Eparch (Έπαρχος-Éparchos) of Constantinople. The second exception is represented by the Despotates. A Despotate (Δεσποτάτο-Despotáto), plural Despotates (Δεσποτάτες-Despotátes), is in most aspects, extremely similar to a normal theme, organized in the same military-civilian way. The main difference lies in the leader of such a province. Instead of a Strategos and an Anthypatos, a Despotate is led by a Despot (Δσπότης -Despótēs), who is a member of the imperial family. Theoretically, any theme can be promoted to the status of a Despotate if a member of the imperial family is tasked with ruling it, but the Empire only has three Despotates with historical tradition, the Despotate of Morea, the Despotate of Trebizond and the Despotate of Taurica. These are most often given to the Emperor's sons, with the princes using this as a chance to prove their military and administrative capabilities and to finalize their education as future rulers. Of course, only the one receiving the Despotate of Morea, most often the Emperor's oldest son, becomes heir-apparent to the throne. Currently, the Despotate is temporarily held by the younger brother of Basileus Michael, Prince Konstantinos Palaiologos, as the Emperor's heir-apparent, with the Basileus being currently unmarried. The third exception is represented by the Exarchates. An Exarchate (Εξαρχία - Exarchía) is an autonomous military province of the Roman Empire, led by an Exarch (Eξαρχος - Exarchos), a governor of sorts, with considerable political and military authority, answering directly to the Emperor, with their powers however unchecked by the central administration in Constantinople. There are currently three Exarchates and three Exarchs, in Africa, the Exarchate of Alexandria, the Exarchate of Syrene and the Exarchate of Nubia.


Majority/State Religion : The Empire is a part of the Greater Chalcedonian Church, through its own Eastern/Roman Orthodox Church. Orthodoxy is actively enforced and spread throughout the territory of the Empire, with imperial authorities trying to convert all other believers.
Religious Description : The Roman or Eastern Orthodoxy, is one of the groups inside of the Christian Chalcedonian Church. The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Orthodox Church practices what it understands to be the original faith passed down from the Apostles. Ever since the mending of the Great Schism through the effort of the courts in Rome and Constantinople, thet two sides of the Chalcedonian Church have continued to exist in full communion, albeit an uneasy one, following the formula of one church, two heads. The West generally follows the authority of the Pope and the Latin rite, but the Patriarchates in the East, unofficially led by the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, who is recognized as "primus inter pares" (first among equals) between all the Orthodox bishops and patriarchs, consider the Pope to be merely another Patriarch - a leader of the church, a first among equals on the same level as the Ecumenical Patriarch due to their descendance from the greatest apostles (Saint Peter for the Pope, and Saint Andrew for the Ecumenical Patriarch), but still a Patriarch and a member of the Pentrarchy. The Orthodox side of the Chalcedonian faith then considers the Church to be a union of various autocephalous patriarchates in full communion with each other, the Catholic Church in the West being counted as a single autocephalous entity. Besides from the Ecumenical Patriarchate, the other Patriarchates under Roman control are the Patriarchate of Jerusalem, the Patriarchate of Antioch and All the East, and the Patriarchate of Alexandria and All Africa. In the East, the Emperor, due to his supreme authority in both secular and religious matters, is considered to be divinely ordained, as the Viceroy of Jesus Christ on Earth, and all Patriarchs must receive his confirmation before taking their positions.

Economic Ideologies: Overall, the Roman Empire is in an interesting situation. Principles of mercantilism and protectionism were slowly abandoned over the past century, with the notable exceptions of a few specific industries, replaced with a push for free trade and elements of capitalism, but the autocratic government of the empire still reserves the right to regulate trade as it sees fit, so the current economic policy of the empire is the result of the decisions of the imperial administration, rather than a result of a specific, promoted economic ideology.
Major Production: Agricultural products, iron, coal, minerals, silk, clothing, industrial products
Economic Description: A regional economic power, the Roman Empire is economically divided between its industrialized western provinces, like its European possessions and Asia Minor, and its still mostly agricultural regions, like Syria, Palestine and Egypt. The Roman state has actively supported and encouraged the development of its industry for the past half century, but due to various reasons, its Middle Eastern provinces have remained overwhelmingly agricultural, an area in which they do excel. The ultimate aim of the Roman economy is to increase the state revenues without damaging the prosperity of its citizens, in order to prevent the emergence of social disorder and to keep the traditional organization of the Roman society intact, and from that point of view, the Roman Empire is perhaps closer to the principles of the Oriental states than to the economies of Western Europe. The Empire attempts to exercise a formal control over interest rates, and to set the parameters for the activity of the guilds and corporations inside of the empire. In the last decades, the imperial government has slowly relaxed its control over trade, resulting to the development of capitalist elements in its developed provinces and in Egypt.

Due to its good position, its ownership over the Dardanelles and the Bosporus, due to its ports in the Red Sea and its agreements with various foreign nations,with Constantinople still acting as the primary western terminus of the Silk Road, and most specially because of the Suez Canal the Roman Empire is a trade hub between Europe, Africa, and Asia. The Suez Canal is directly owned by the Roman state through its Emperor, with the Roman Empire having built it, and protected it ever since. The Canal has has shortened the journey between the North Atlantic and the Indian Oceans ever since it was completed in 1869, and its ownership plays an important role in the economic policies of the Empire. The state still reserves the right to control its internal and the international trade if needed, maintaining a durable and flexible monetary system adaptable to its trade needs.

The western regions of the Roman state, more exactly, its European possessions, Asia Minor, and islands like Cyprus are the most developed, from the point of view of infrastructure, as the railway system there is very well developed. The other regions of the empire are somewhat lacking, but railways unite most major cities, and many more are planned to be developed. Separate from the issue of railways, the Roman Empire maintains an incredibly vast and very well developed system of paved roads throughout all of its provinces, trying to emulate the traditions of the empire of old. At the same time, all of its provinces enjoy a modern and significant network of irrigation systems, inherited through the centuries and modernized with each passing generation.

Development: Modern in in some provinces, semi-industrialized in other.
Development Description : The core areas of the Empire, including its European possessions, Asia Minor, and the large cities of its Middle Eastern possessions are modern and industrialized. The rest of its areas are however agricultural and heavily lagging behind, while its new possessions in Sudan/Nubia are primitive.

Army Description :
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Roman Army
Ρωμαϊκός Στρατός
Exercitus Romanum


Motto: Μεθ ημων ο Θεος! (Meth imon o Theos!|God with us!)


The Roman Army (Ρωμαϊκός Στρατός- Romaïkós Stratós|Exercitus Romanum), or the Army of the Romans (Στρατός τῶν Ῥωμαίω-Stratós tōn Rhōmaiōn|Exercitus Romanorum), sometimes also known just as the Army (Στρατός-Stratós|Exercitus) is the land force of the Roman Empire. A direct and uninterrupted continuation of the Roman army of old and of its traditions, the Stratós is renowned for its level of discipline, strategic prowess and organization, and for its soldiers. The glory of Rome was achieved through armed power and blood, and ever since Romulus founded the Eternal City, the army has stood at the core of the Roman state, influencing and often controlling its destinity. It was through the prowess of its soldiers that the East managed to avoid the collapse experienced in the West, and for more than a thousand years, the Roman Army has constantly fought countless wars on three continents, continuously adapting in order to maintain an edge over those who would wish to bring the eternal empire to its end. As such, the empire can wield a conscripted army formed around a core of professional officers and soldiers, and arguably one of, if not the best in its region,truly a force to be reckoned with. One of the army's biggest assets are the Roman soldiers themselves, still called "legionnaires" (λεγεωνάριοι-legeonárioi) by some, due to their morale, discipline, obedience, and really harsh training. Being a part of the army is more than an honor in Roman culture - it is one's duty, for a Roman citizen can not be a citizen and a man without serving in the army. Soldiers are as such indoctrinated before they even join they military, convinced that they are the heirs of the Roman legions of old, with the empire skillfully using nationalism and religion to its advantage. Soldiers perform a personal oath to the Emperor, and are followed in battle by priests and holy icons. The training of a Roman soldier is also very thorough and even somewhat harsh, putting a lot of emphasis not only on the soldier's individual skills but also on his ability to fight as part of a unit, in a process that other nations often try to copy. At the same time, harsh but fair punishments for any deserters or traitors and an attention on unit cohesion lead to a situation where the Romans can regularly field extremely motivated and loyal soldiers, with the most important units sometimes even bordering on the edge of fanaticism, often leading to Roman units being unwavering in their attacks or in their stands.

At the same time, the almost obsessive attention that the Romans put into the organization of their army brought with it a lot of other advantages. The Stratós uses a conscription system built from the combination of the French levée en masse with the old Roman systems. All able-bodied citizens serve a three year term in the main army, after which only a small core of professionals is kept during peacetime. The rest then spend four times in the active reserve, in the so called Auxiliary Force (Συμμαχία- Simmakhía), which is divided into the respective forces of each theme. The auxiliary forces still train periodically and are ready to be mobilized in case of war, the process of mobilization being also very well organized and planned, compartmentalized through the comprehensive military organization system, which is closely intertwined with the civil administrative system. After those four years, the soldiers are moved into the normal reserve up to the age of 45, but a part of them is still assigned to the militia force of their respective theme. These militia forces, known as Akritai(Aκρίται), are normally formed specifically in the border regions of the empire, and their members retain their weapons and uniforms during times of peace. Preponderantly formed by the inhabitants of those regions, and also containing men older that the maximal reserve age, these units are specialized as irregular units to be used in case of an enemy invasion, using guerrilla tactics and their knowledge of the land in order to harass the invading forces. This system provides a large reserve force that can be mobilized in case of war, and the organization provides both a certain regional pride and loyalty to the units - being tied to their respective theme, but most of the army's units can trace their lineage even as far back as the creation of the themata system, while others have started to claim the heritage of famous Roman units of old, leading to a pride in their own units which maximizes morale and cohesion.

The officer corps is a bit of a mixed bag. It is a professional institution, with a core of experienced, veteran officers, and at least in theory, it emphasizes the need of a meritocratic perspective, it has a few very renowned military academies and the army's organization promotes the creation of such officers. However, the meritocratic elements are often tainted by aristocratic influence - a military career can often really increase a noble's or a politician's reputation, and as such, a lot of noble families tend to make sure that their members receive the ranks that are worthy of them. At the same time, officers are expected to bring in results and victories, and the pressure of continuing a millennial heritage means that officers will try to achieve their objectives at every cost, which can also be a benefit - as officers which fail will often be replaced, keeping the quality high. Being in a constant race to keep up or to maintain an edge over the empire's rivals, the officer corps will often try to adapt itself as quickly as possible, learning from the enemy in the characteristic Roman way. A strong and clear hierarchy also brings with it order, and the high losses recently suffered in conflicts against Babylon have started to develop the concept that officers must know how to perform the job of their immediate superior, to be able to replace them in the field if needed.

The army is overall also pretty well equipped, as the empire has the industrial base to sustain its forces, and the interest to do so. As such, the imperial forces enjoy domestically produced bolt action rifles, machine guns, and artillery, and are also able to use a few unique weapons - mostly centered around Greek fire using flamethrower units, and experimental uses of the substance.
In terms of strategy and tactics, the Romans use mixed elements. The Empire's long borders and often precarious position, combined with the disastrous experiences of the attrition wars fought in the Levant, Arabia and Mesopotamia, has led to the core principle that wars have to be as short as possible. That is why the empire will often combined the idea of a static defense on its easily defensible fronts, and of strong and direct offensives on the fronts were such a defense is impossible, attempting to crush enemy formations and to outmaneuver them before they can react properly, with the danger of a war on multiple fronts leads to the strict idea that wars should be won through decisive battles.


Army Weakness :
Despite all of its strengths, the Stratós still has to face significant weaknesses. The first shortcoming is created by the very geography and borders of the empire.While some borders, like the northern Balkan border, anchored on the Danube and strengthened with forts, or fortified regions like Taurica can be defended easily, the empire's eastern border with Babylon is one of the longest and most difficult to defend borders in the entire world, draining significant resources and focus. The sheer size of the empire also makes coordinating the mobilization and thorough organization of resources and units on such a scale a daunting and exhausting task. The strong organization of the military, while with its own advantages, can also be rather stiff, and overly cumbersome, held back by anachronistic elements and concepts- there is a reason for why the word "byzantine" has such a meaning in the West. At the same time, not all themes are created equal. While the more developed regions have the industry and infrastructure to mobilize quickly and efficiently significant forces, the empire's Levantine and African territories are significantly lagging behind from many points of view.

The officer corps can as mentioned before be easily tainted by aristocratic influence, so its abilities can often suffer. The upper echelons, while fully aware of how the adaptability of the Romans has saved them in the past, and focused on modernization, can also be led by a rather conservative style of thought, leading to tactical and strategical innovations being adopted relatively slowly - which does mean that the Roman Army is even more so prone to same strategic and tactical weaknesses experienced by real life European armies of this era. The idea that an officer must prove his worth through victories in the field and through achieving his objectives also means that the higher ranks will often try to do anything they can in order to follow their orders, which can easily lead to catastrophic results and to an inflexibility in the chain of command. The beliefs which stand both at the core of the Roman outlook on the world, and the pride created by the concept of being a legionary and a member of such a fighting force can also lead to a certain arrogance that can be seen regardless of rank.

The biggest weakness of the army is however created by several combined issues. The reserve system, as good as it is, is just barely enough to compensate for the sheer size of the empire and the differences in development, and this does mean that the empire will suffer in the case of wars of attrition, an issue exacerbated by the high morale and fanaticism of many of their soldiers, as Roman units are expected to follow orders to the very end - often being decimated instead of stopping their attack or withdrawing. Surrendering is seen as an unforgivable shame, and fighting until death is a behavior often observed in such units.


Naval Description :
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Roman Navy
Ρωμαϊκό Ναυτικό
Classis Romanum


Motto: Σταύρος Νικά! (Stauros Nika!|The Cross is victorious!)

The Roman Navy (Ρωμαϊκό Ναυτικό-Romaïkó Nautikó|Classis Romanum), or the Navy of the Romans (Ναυτικό τῶν Ῥωμαίω-Nautikó tōn Rhōmaiōn|Classis Romanorum), sometimes known simply as the Navy (Ναυτικό-Nautikó|Classis), is the naval force of the Roman Empire. The Nautikó is a well-organized, competent and sizable force in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. The Roman Navy is by no means a weak force, as its vessels are fairly modernized, and they do maintain a degree of discipline and organization similar to that of the army. Mainly oriented towards defense, and benefiting from a series of ports, bases, and forts along the coasts of the Empire, the Nautikó is a force that would deter anyone from attacking the Romans without thinking twice. As such, the Nautiko excels at defending the Roman coasts, the Bosphorus, the Dardanelles and the Suez Canal, and it does so with the help of a strong network of coastal forts, with bases in important fortified islands such as Crete and Cyprus, and with irregular naval forces formed by smaller ships which can harass the enemy with the help of the Aegean Sea's many islands and with the help of a very well organized minelaying effort that can be deployed in case of war. At the same time, the empire employs a moderately effective brown-water force on the Danube, with a strictly defensive and auxiliary role, and with a force on the Nile intended to mostly protect the commercial and logistic ships sailing there.

The network of defensive forts is from certain points of view a marvel, even more so than the Navy, with an excellent coastal defense augmented by the use of a secret weapon, the Greek or the Roman Fire, an extremely inflammable substance that can even burn on water. Even if it is no longer what it used to be, now in this era of ships of steel and steam, it is still employed on naval and coastal fortifications, and in defensive operations, while secret projects exist that are trying to use in various other ways.

Naval Weakness: The Nautikó has never in the history of the Roman state enjoyed the same level of prestige as the army. As such, it was never completely embraced by the Roman state - it is considered to be somewhat "un-Roman", and it has often been neglected, with the desire to the protect the Eastern Mediterranean Sea and to defend the straits and the Suez Canal being the only reason for why it is a more or less competent force today. The Navy has never received the same amount of funding as the army, and its relative lack of popularity does reduce the number of potential recruits willing to join, with this also having a negative effect on the navy's officer corps. This has led to a situation where the Nautiko is strictly a green-water navy, and is only intended to fight forces such as that of the French Navy in cooperation with the naval forces of the West. With such a defensive role, the Navy is competently dependent on its defensive installations, and will often refuse to meet the enemy in areas where it can not be easily reinforced. As such, it will have major difficulties in any offensive operations and it will also simply be unable to ever match the navies of more competent powers in direct combat. A certain reticence of the upper echelons to lose difficult to lose vessels further paralyzes the navy's ability to react - combined with simply put a lack of innovation that has the Romans lack behind from a naval perspective.
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