by High Rise Nation » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:44 am
by Card Storage 01 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:47 am
by Earthbound Immortal Squad » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:50 am
by Saiwania » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:55 am
by Pim Fortuyn » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:58 am
by Jebslund » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:07 am
Saiwania wrote:College in general, is a bad decision if you're not going into a career field that absolutely requires it, such as if you're becoming a Doctor, Lawyer, or Accountant. The tuition for university is expensive enough. Don't jeopardize your future with substantial student loan debt. If you're going to go, you might as well make damned sure that your financial prospects will be good enough to warrant pursuing a degree that'll ultimately cost a lot.
More and more people are going to wake up to the fact that degrees aren't worth as much anymore, certainly not like was the case in the 1960s to 1970s. Everyone is going to college these days, so there is nothing special about it.
If you're really at a loss as to how to launch a career, my recommendation is to follow what people who do HR for a living recommend. You usually need work experience to make it more likely to get more work experience to put on a resume, but if you have none and no accomplishments, you will need to take volunteer and temp agency work until you're competitive enough for entry level, and then you'll be ready for jobs that want a resume.
Skilled trades are said to pay more than a ton of college graduate programs. Go for whatever pays the most money, with money you can get your life in order if you can budget and invest well enough. Doing "what you enjoy" is for suckers if that happens to not pay you much.
by Xmara » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:09 am
Pim Fortuyn wrote:Whatever you do, don’t choose Lesbian Dance Theory as you undergrad major. They don’t teach you how to use Quicken and I wasn’t able to get any internships at accounting firms.
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:16 am
by Saiwania » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:24 am
Jebslund wrote:Even skilled trades are going to want a degree or experience, so, in the end, college is the best way to go if you go about it smartly and work hard. Your degree is worth the effort you put into it and the skills you learn from it. If all you can say is that you have a degree, of course it's going to be worthless, because you just saying, "I have a degree" doesn't say anything other than you paid money and did coursework. On the other hand, "I am skilled in X, Y, and Z, which I learned by studying for my Bachelor's in ABC" has a lot more worth, because it demonstrates that you actually learned and retained the course material, and that you are willing and able to devote yourself to learning a job.
by Earthbound Immortal Squad » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:28 am
by Saiwania » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:51 am
Jebslund wrote:As for doing volunteer and temp work, that's nice, but neither provides a reliable source of income, so, while it's great if you have a relative or friend willing to let you stay with them rent-free, it's not so good an idea if you actually have to pay to have a roof over your head and food on your table (and a table to put said food on).
by Krasny-Volny » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:53 am
High Rise Nation wrote:Many people going into college or people already in college sometimes have a hard time deciding on a major. Many people choose a major depending on their interests and other people choose a major depending on the demand of a certain job. How should we really choose our major when we go into college?
should we choose a career that we will actually enjoy? or choose a job that will give us a good amount of money because the demand for people in that job is high?
by Krasny-Volny » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:58 am
Saiwania wrote:Jebslund wrote:As for doing volunteer and temp work, that's nice, but neither provides a reliable source of income, so, while it's great if you have a relative or friend willing to let you stay with them rent-free, it's not so good an idea if you actually have to pay to have a roof over your head and food on your table (and a table to put said food on).
It is still a good idea for a person with a blank resume, because chances are- no one is going to hire them for a paying job anyways. They have to first have any kind of experience to point to, even if the only way to get it is to offer their services for free.
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:03 am
Krasny-Volny wrote:Saiwania wrote:
It is still a good idea for a person with a blank resume, because chances are- no one is going to hire them for a paying job anyways. They have to first have any kind of experience to point to, even if the only way to get it is to offer their services for free.
Nobody has a blank resume in the US these days. Even teenagers mow lawns or work at MacDonald's in the summer or part-time during the school year. All of that goes into the good old resume.
by Saiwania » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:17 am
Krasny-Volny wrote:Nobody has a blank resume in the US these days. Even teenagers mow lawns or work at MacDonald's in the summer or part-time during the school year. All of that goes into the good old resume.
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:21 am
Saiwania wrote:Krasny-Volny wrote:Nobody has a blank resume in the US these days. Even teenagers mow lawns or work at MacDonald's in the summer or part-time during the school year. All of that goes into the good old resume.
Tons of NEETs have blank resumes. I have a blank resume for the most part. Chris Chan is said to have quite a poor work history. It's a 21st century phenonenon that there are adult children that don't move out after High School or College to the dismay of their long suffering parents and family and there is lots of anguish over how far they've failed.
I can go on, but people get the point now? It's aparently present in other rich countries as well such as Japan, although maybe to a more limited extent.
by Saiwania » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:34 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:That shit started in the 90s.
by Earthbound Immortal Squad » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:38 am
Saiwania wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:That shit started in the 90s.
Well whatever the cause, it is bad. Most western societies are failing to transition all young people into successfully launching a career. Most people seem to be doing fine enough, even if it might be at lower pay than they want, if they're starting out. But some people do slip through the cracks and get left behind.
I'd say it was a combination of not knowing how everything works ahead of time, and my own shortcomings and laziness. I'm just not the ambitious sort. In my view, I should've just listened to HR people early in life; as opposed to thinking college would make me any better off. That's a lie that K-12 sells people, the notion that you have to have some fancy degree to eventually get to a good income and have access to a good lifestyle.
by Novas Arcanum » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:41 am
by Erythrean Thebes » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:42 am
by Cetacea » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:02 pm
by Vashty » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:09 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:36 pm
Vashty wrote:Can someone explain American degrees to me? I can't fathom why you'd want someone to get tested in more than one subject area for a single subject degree. Speaking as a Brit with a BA Hons History with Politics.
by Xmara » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:41 pm
by Liriena » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:34 pm
Xmara wrote:I’m double majoring in biology and criminal justice and minoring in chemistry. I’m going into forensics.Pim Fortuyn wrote:Whatever you do, don’t choose Lesbian Dance Theory as you undergrad major. They don’t teach you how to use Quicken and I wasn’t able to get any internships at accounting firms.
Wait is that a real major? If it is, what would you even use it for?
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