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by Lord Dominator » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:32 pm
by Vocenae » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:02 pm
18:34 <Kyrusia> Voc: The one anchor of moral conscience in a sea of turbulent depravity.
by A m e n r i a » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:19 pm
Vocenae wrote:Here's a general question.
How do you label or otherwise catagorize stars, planets and moons that your nation knows exist, but don't officially own? For example, LV-426 and 226 from the Alien series. Do you give official names like 'Acheron' or do they just receive some designating numbers and letters as an astrographical bookmark?
by Multiversal Venn-Copard » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:24 pm
Vocenae wrote:Here's a general question.
How do you label or otherwise catagorize stars, planets and moons that your nation knows exist, but don't officially own? For example, LV-426 and 226 from the Alien series. Do you give official names like 'Acheron' or do they just receive some designating numbers and letters as an astrographical bookmark?
A m e n r i a wrote:Imho I prefer the latter. Real names make more sense and more drama than a stupid combination of letters and numbers. *stares menacingly at NASA
by A m e n r i a » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:29 pm
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Vocenae wrote:Here's a general question.
How do you label or otherwise catagorize stars, planets and moons that your nation knows exist, but don't officially own? For example, LV-426 and 226 from the Alien series. Do you give official names like 'Acheron' or do they just receive some designating numbers and letters as an astrographical bookmark?
While the current system I have written down on my factbook is abysmal in every respect, I have to imagine that my nation(s) use numbering schemes based on parent gravitational body (in a galaxy, in intergalactic space, etc.) and then on stellar spectral class, mass, planet mass, and so on down for smaller objects. Since things move and change over time, though, identifications need periodic updating.A m e n r i a wrote:Imho I prefer the latter. Real names make more sense and more drama than a stupid combination of letters and numbers. *stares menacingly at NASA
There's trillions of objects that even a K2 civilization has to worry about in its Oort cloud alone, let alone the planets and stars in chunks of an entire galaxy. Names only tend to go so far unless you're alright with calling two comets or moonlets the same thing at some point.
by Lord Dominator » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:38 pm
A m e n r i a wrote:Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:While the current system I have written down on my factbook is abysmal in every respect, I have to imagine that my nation(s) use numbering schemes based on parent gravitational body (in a galaxy, in intergalactic space, etc.) and then on stellar spectral class, mass, planet mass, and so on down for smaller objects. Since things move and change over time, though, identifications need periodic updating.
There's trillions of objects that even a K2 civilization has to worry about in its Oort cloud alone, let alone the planets and stars in chunks of an entire galaxy. Names only tend to go so far unless you're alright with calling two comets or moonlets the same thing at some point.
Yea, but things with the same name hardly ever come up in fiction. Conservation of detail, remember?
by Great Aletia » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:35 am
Vocenae wrote:Here's a general question.
How do you label or otherwise catagorize stars, planets and moons that your nation knows exist, but don't officially own? For example, LV-426 and 226 from the Alien series. Do you give official names like 'Acheron' or do they just receive some designating numbers and letters as an astrographical bookmark?
by New Lyrane » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:39 pm
Vocenae wrote:Here's a general question.
How do you label or otherwise catagorize stars, planets and moons that your nation knows exist, but don't officially own? For example, LV-426 and 226 from the Alien series. Do you give official names like 'Acheron' or do they just receive some designating numbers and letters as an astrographical bookmark?
by Great Aletia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 am
by Vocenae » Wed May 29, 2019 9:16 pm
18:34 <Kyrusia> Voc: The one anchor of moral conscience in a sea of turbulent depravity.
by Kassaran » Wed May 29, 2019 11:08 pm
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by Great Aletia » Fri May 31, 2019 12:04 pm
Vocenae wrote:I'm currently working on building some orbital defense platforms using DOGA L3, so I thought it might be interesting to drop in and see what other players use for planetary defense.
Before sitting down and building the guns, I had largely based mine off the Orbital Defense Platforms from Halo 2, big kinetic launchers (though not making the mistake of putting leafy relaxing atriums where weapons should be to prevent easy boarding) designed to cripple or kill any starships that get within their firing arcs. Having big sticks like these play into my overall theme of having large, slow space stuff that is hard to kill and hits really hard but only good at medium to short range and has to armor tank because I lack energy shielding.
Do you use orbital weapon platforms, or do you rely on planetside batteries? Do you use kinetics or energy weapons, or do you rely entirely on protection from warships of a defense fleet or some form of planetary shielding? Or do you have some other type of planetary defenses (like say, a ring around the moon for shooting incoming asteroids)?
by Vocenae » Fri May 31, 2019 1:01 pm
18:34 <Kyrusia> Voc: The one anchor of moral conscience in a sea of turbulent depravity.
by Hobbeebia » Fri May 31, 2019 1:22 pm
by Great Aletia » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:46 pm
Vocenae wrote:Great Aletia wrote:
Thanks but I was just using them as a visual base from which to start my own design rather than using them as depicted in the games (which is good, because as you pointed out the in-game designs have a ton of flaws). I was more interested in seeing what other players use in their own fluff.
by Sskiss » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:19 am
by Great Aletia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:58 pm
by Kyrusia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:19 pm
Great Aletia wrote:Bit of a random question, but what would an alien government which is based on the exchange of males be classified as? I've been developing a species of xeno for my factbook history and I don't know what to term their society. It works through the exchange of unrelated males known as "praetorians" among clans and hives, which "queens" use as generals, bodyguards, and mates. Would praetoriocracy work? As far as I'm aware, there's nothing comparable in human society. I based the xeno society mainly on bees, so there may be a term for how their government works, but I don't know what it could be.
Species X-III VS wrote:The Visari are ruled by an alpha male, the hegemon, who hails from the largest clan. The current hegemon is Krazek Thraka, who hails from the Cheptu clan. Visari clans are based around queens and their associated praetorians. The most powerful praetorian assumes the role of hegemon, the nominal leader of the Visari species, and supreme commander of all Visari warriors. The hegemon rules for life, or until killed. The death of a hegemon is a momentous time in Visari society. Although there is no formal procedure for the selection of a hegemon, most attain the position by dominating their rivals and stealing their queens. In order to achieve supremacy, a praetorian must be strong both physically and mentally. In Visari society, careful use of strategy is considered a sign of an excellent leader. Although all Visari love a good fight, deception and planning are considered as effective in combat as claws, guns, and psychics.
by Great Aletia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:57 pm
by Kyrusia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:03 pm
Great Aletia wrote:Kyrusia wrote:The species internal politics is complicated by design, so I wasn't sure what exactly to classify them as. Kratocracy is probably the closest I'm going to get using IRL terms. Technically the hegemon is only the nominal leader as their are clans that don't recognise his rule, and the species' hive mind is the true ruler. The hegemon is more of an avatar for the hive mind than an actual ruler, although like all members of the species, he is sentient. The hive mind allows for dissenting opinions and refrains from outright dominating its subjects, preferring to merely compel them instead. To put it in simpler terms, rather than outright puppeting its subjects, it gives them suggestions which they are strongly compelled to follow. While an all encompassing hive mind might be more efficient, I didn't want to portray every member of the species as a mindless drone. Giving characters distinct personalities and ambitions and allowing for dissident is much more interesting in my opinion that a species of drones. That they are ruled by a hive mind might complicate things a bit, but I think kratocracy is still probably the best fit, as the hive mind ultimately rules through force, even if it is indirect.
by Great Aletia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:13 pm
Kyrusia wrote:Great Aletia wrote:The species internal politics is complicated by design, so I wasn't sure what exactly to classify them as. Kratocracy is probably the closest I'm going to get using IRL terms. Technically the hegemon is only the nominal leader as their are clans that don't recognise his rule, and the species' hive mind is the true ruler. The hegemon is more of an avatar for the hive mind than an actual ruler, although like all members of the species, he is sentient. The hive mind allows for dissenting opinions and refrains from outright dominating its subjects, preferring to merely compel them instead. To put it in simpler terms, rather than outright puppeting its subjects, it gives them suggestions which they are strongly compelled to follow. While an all encompassing hive mind might be more efficient, I didn't want to portray every member of the species as a mindless drone. Giving characters distinct personalities and ambitions and allowing for dissident is much more interesting in my opinion that a species of drones. That they are ruled by a hive mind might complicate things a bit, but I think kratocracy is still probably the best fit, as the hive mind ultimately rules through force, even if it is indirect.
:thonk_emoji:
If the collective intelligence is suggestive (consultative?) like you say, you might consider a novel set of terms, like a "kratocratic soft-gestalt" or "soft-gestalt kratocracy" (using "soft-" here to demarcate between, say, a "hard-gestalt" or "classical" hivemind, in that the will of the collective is fundamentally taking a back-seat, as it were, rather than overriding.
by Kyrusia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:20 pm
Great Aletia wrote:"Soft-gestalt kratocracy" sounds best to me. I might link the terms to Wikipedia in case people don't know exactly what I mean. Thank you for your help with this, I wouldn't have known where to start.
Addendum: Since you seemed confused about why the species exchanges males, it's because breeding with genetically related males leads to genetic degradation over time. Queens would be effectively producing clones. Praetorians are rare because they are fully grown, and most warriors die before they reach that stage of their life. Clans exchange males every ten years at a special event which takes place on the species' homeworld. The exchange of males brings with it oaths and alliances, so it is a key time for the hegemon, who will naturally desire to keep his clan in power and increase the size of his personal harem. As the nominal leader of the species, the hegemon keeps a harem, which he uses as breeding stock to keep his clan in power. This arrangement is unique to the hegemon. The hegemon is the only praetorian who is large enough and powerful enough to mentally and physically dominate queens. All other praetorians are ruled by their queens.
by Doppio Giudici » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:38 pm
Vocenae wrote:Here's a general question.
How do you label or otherwise catagorize stars, planets and moons that your nation knows exist, but don't officially own? For example, LV-426 and 226 from the Alien series. Do you give official names like 'Acheron' or do they just receive some designating numbers and letters as an astrographical bookmark?
by Ferret Civilization » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:25 pm
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