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Racist Commonwelath of East Virginia
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Should we euthanize orphans?

Postby Racist Commonwelath of East Virginia » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:22 am

I was watching CNN the other day and they were doing a segment on animal euthanasia in Japan. They are so flooded over there that they decided that if animals aren’t adopted they should be put in a metal box and gassed. I was thinking, here in the US we have a broken welfare system and dozens of kids in care who nobody wants to adopt, most will probably turn into criminals and end up in prison or death row. Maybe it would be better if we euthanized the orphans nobody wants, we’ll be saving them from a horrible life and society from juvenile delinquents and future crimes. With the money we save with euthanasia, we could spend it on those families that do adopt making sure they are financially supported and that the adopted kids have access to good schools, sports and psychological care maybe even college.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:25 am

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Postby Pandoriaa » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:26 am

absolutely yes
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Postby Golden Enclave » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:26 am

I can see where your logic is coming from - but probably not something a stable, comfortable society would do.
Not sure if killing people just because they're orphans is right, but maybe I'm just getting old.

I think a much more obvious solution would be to fix the broken welfare system (although I'm not from US and not sure how the system is in practice so just quoting the op that it's bork).

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Postby Nutss » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:26 am

No. That's really cruel. Most people would rather live in an orphanage than die young.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:27 am

April Fools day is tomorrow, don't ask stupid questions until then.

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Postby Heloin » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:27 am

Maybe I'm just insane, but I'm not fully seeing how this improves anything.

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Postby Christ Triumphant » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:27 am

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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:28 am

Why not just enslave them and put them to work for society?

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Postby Third Asopia » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:28 am

To be honest I am not in favour. Why euthanise an orphan when he has a bright future in front of him? I know his parents died, but he still has a future. Everyone does. Unless you are at the last stages, then yes, because you have completed the most important parts of life. But, an orphan? Who's probably young? Come on. There's something better than euthanasia.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:29 am

Heloin wrote:Maybe I'm just insane, but I'm not fully seeing how this improves anything.

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Postby Luminesa » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:32 am

Can we not? If the kid is dead he has no chance to be given a better life. We should focus on making society better, and not just kill the kids like they’re animals in a kill-shelter. (Kill-shelters for animals are also awful, in my opinion.)
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Postby Serrus » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:32 am

Racist Commonwelath of East Virginia wrote:I was watching CNN the other day and they were doing a segment on animal euthanasia in Japan. They are so flooded over there that they decided that if animals aren’t adopted they should be put in a metal box and gassed. I was thinking, here in the US we have a broken welfare system and dozens of kids in care who nobody wants to adopt, most will probably turn into criminals and end up in prison or death row. Maybe it would be better if we euthanized the orphans nobody wants, we’ll be saving them from a horrible life and society from juvenile delinquents and future crimes. With the money we save with euthanasia, we could spend it on those families that do adopt making sure they are financially supported and that the adopted kids have access to good schools, sports and psychological care maybe even college.

Japan is wrong, you are wrong, and euthanasia for this reason is despicable. How about we just...abolish the death penalty and fix the welfare system instead?
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:33 am

Luminesa wrote:Can we not? If the kid is dead he has no chance to be given a better life. We should focus on making society better, and not just kill the kids like they’re animals in a kill-shelter. (Kill-shelters for animals are also awful, in my opinion.)


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Postby The Rapture Republic » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:34 am

What the hell is wrong with you?
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Postby Racist Commonwelath of East Virginia » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:35 am

Third Asopia wrote:To be honest I am not in favour. Why euthanise an orphan when he has a bright future in front of him? I know his parents died, but he still has a future. Everyone does. Unless you are at the last stages, then yes, because you have completed the most important parts of life. But, an orphan? Who's probably young? Come on. There's something better than euthanasia.


Well, most orphans get bounced around from home to home so they’re constantly being psychologically traumatized. Orphanages are hell holes. Unadopted orphans are like an anchor weighing down the welfare system, if we can cut them loose we can save money to spend supporting successful adoptions. Many uncared for orphans will end up in prison. Instead, why not save everyone trouble and euthanize a small number to benefit the rest? It’s nice to believe that everyone has a bright future but that’s not true. Let’s support the ones that are likely to succeed and rather than torturing those that won’t by throwing them from home to home or dumping them in orphanages that are more like prisons than homes, we should have the option of euthanizing them humanely.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:36 am

Luminesa wrote:Can we not? If the kid is dead he has no chance to be given a better life. We should focus on making society better, and not just kill the kids like they’re animals in a kill-shelter. (Kill-shelters for animals are also awful, in my opinion.)

Yes, kill shelters are horrible.

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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:36 am

It's April fool's day in Australia so how about we skip the euthanasia and go straight to the incineration?
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:40 am

Sorry, this is trollbait. It's not possible to argue both sides of this question without breaking forum rules.

If you were going for an early April fools' joke:

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