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by Nanocyberia » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:09 pm
by Hanafuridake » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:47 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Hanafuridake wrote:There is much debate over whether the Buddha can be considered God, I think that it would be best to say that the Buddhas are their own class of religious being which overlaps in some areas with the Western notion of Godhood, but differs in others. A major difference between the Buddha and the Christian God (and why the two religions are incompatible) is that the Buddha is not a Creator God and specifically rejects the concept of a being creating this universe. Another major difference is that in Christian theology, God exists, while notions such as exists, doesn't exist, neither exists nor doesn't exist, don't apply to the Tathāgata.
Having attained nirvāṇa and before he ultimately attained parinirvāṇa, Buddha refers to himself as Tathāgata as you said, so "beyond the transitory"; but what that exactly means in relation to whether he continues to exist after parinirvāṇa, and the precise "form" of that existence, is unclear.
Nibbana Sutta wrote:There is that dimension where there is neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor wind; neither dimension of the infinitude of space, nor dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, nor dimension of nothingness, nor dimension of neither perception nor non-perception; neither this world, nor the next world, nor sun, nor moon. And there, I say, there is neither coming, nor going, nor stasis; neither passing away nor arising: without stance, without foundation, without support [mental object]. This, just this, is the end of stress.
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by Hardholm » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:08 pm
by The Alma Mater » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:38 pm
Hardholm wrote:The primary separation of (an accurate) interpretation of Christianity from the rest of all religions is as follows.
Heaven/paradise/a good outcome in general is achieved not through ones own actions but by the grace of God. Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all other religions that I am aware of maintain a basic concept of earning your way to a good result of afterlife.
Christians are entirely incapable of earning heaven or even initiating the process of salvation. It is entirely up to God through the Holy Spirit to approach and convict us to lead us toward salvation.
In this way, Christianity is unlike any other religion.
by Mystic Warriors » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:46 pm
Hardholm wrote:The primary separation of (an accurate) interpretation of Christianity from the rest of all religions is as follows.
Heaven/paradise/a good outcome in general is achieved not through ones own actions but by the grace of God. Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all other religions that I am aware of maintain a basic concept of earning your way to a good result of afterlife.
Christians are entirely incapable of earning heaven or even initiating the process of salvation. It is entirely up to God through the Holy Spirit to approach and convict us to lead us toward salvation.
In this way, Christianity is unlike any other religion.
by Mystic Warriors » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:47 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Hardholm wrote:The primary separation of (an accurate) interpretation of Christianity from the rest of all religions is as follows.
Heaven/paradise/a good outcome in general is achieved not through ones own actions but by the grace of God. Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all other religions that I am aware of maintain a basic concept of earning your way to a good result of afterlife.
Christians are entirely incapable of earning heaven or even initiating the process of salvation. It is entirely up to God through the Holy Spirit to approach and convict us to lead us toward salvation.
In this way, Christianity is unlike any other religion.
Nonsense. Quite a few pagan religions also base your fate after death purely on the whims of deities, regardless of your deeds. Your flavour of Christianity is not unique in that.
People do however tend to consider this "unfair" and therefor make up stories like "dying in glorious combat gives a better afterlife", "being a bad person sends you to hell" and so on. That is hubris, certainly, but human.
by Australian rePublic » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:57 pm
Hardholm wrote:The primary separation of (an accurate) interpretation of Christianity from the rest of all religions is as follows.
Heaven/paradise/a good outcome in general is achieved not through ones own actions but by the grace of God. Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all other religions that I am aware of maintain a basic concept of earning your way to a good result of afterlife.
Christians are entirely incapable of earning heaven or even initiating the process of salvation. It is entirely up to God through the Holy Spirit to approach and convict us to lead us toward salvation.
In this way, Christianity is unlike any other religion.
by The Alma Mater » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:59 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Hardholm wrote:The primary separation of (an accurate) interpretation of Christianity from the rest of all religions is as follows.
Heaven/paradise/a good outcome in general is achieved not through ones own actions but by the grace of God. Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all other religions that I am aware of maintain a basic concept of earning your way to a good result of afterlife.
Christians are entirely incapable of earning heaven or even initiating the process of salvation. It is entirely up to God through the Holy Spirit to approach and convict us to lead us toward salvation.
In this way, Christianity is unlike any other religion.
Sure. If you disregard the two largest denominations- Catholicism and Orthodoxy
by Korhal IVV » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:20 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Hardholm wrote:The primary separation of (an accurate) interpretation of Christianity from the rest of all religions is as follows.
Heaven/paradise/a good outcome in general is achieved not through ones own actions but by the grace of God. Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all other religions that I am aware of maintain a basic concept of earning your way to a good result of afterlife.
Christians are entirely incapable of earning heaven or even initiating the process of salvation. It is entirely up to God through the Holy Spirit to approach and convict us to lead us toward salvation.
In this way, Christianity is unlike any other religion.
Sure. If you disregard the two largest denominations- Catholicism and Orthodoxy
"Whatever a person may be like, we must still love them because we love God." ~ John Calvin
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