Redlandia is Not Fascist

[Cataluna]

Dogwhistlers need to leave. You aren't fooling anyone.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Not really. I see Farkasfalka members deny the holocaust on the RMB, without any rebuttal from their region mates. If that ain't actual fascism, then I'm the pope.

I don't think you know or understand what fascism is. Allowing someone to speak isn't fascism. Not making a rebuttal against someone isn't fascism.

Nice Quote. Totally Written like a non-Fascist.

"I feel like this is fascist, so it is. I feel, therefore, it is."

Your opinion doesn’t count until you apologize for destroying the planet and not paying for it.

[The Black Party]

Your opinion doesn’t count until you apologize for destroying the planet and not paying for it.

Salvation Army authorized it so you're not getting an apology anytime soon

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Salvation Army authorized it so you're not getting an apology anytime soon

There’s proof your army is colluding with ISIS.

[Christian Confederation]

Dogwhistlers need to leave. You aren't fooling anyone.

Still not a facist.

PS check your telagrams.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Not really. I see Farkasfalka members deny the holocaust on the RMB, without any rebuttal from their region mates. If that ain't actual fascism, then I'm the pope.

I don't think you know or understand what fascism is. Allowing someone to speak isn't fascism. Not making a rebuttal against someone isn't fascism.

Nice Quote. Totally Written like a non-Fascist.

"I feel like this is fascist, so it is. I feel, therefore, it is."

I'm no leftist, so I don't just throw that word around blindly. I know when I see genuine fascism, and your region is it. The act of some players simply expressing holocaust denial isn't what proves to me that Farkasfalka is a fascist region; the fact that no one in your region condemns or opposes the holocaust denial on the RMB, not even by simply criticizing it, is what is incriminating.

[Lyrical International Brigade]

Well the latter just sounds like your insane opinion so I guess that's better?
Dog eat dog world, I guess.

Not really. I see Farkasfalka members deny the holocaust on the RMB, without any rebuttal from their region mates. If that ain't actual fascism, then I'm the pope.

Nah, Fark is still fascist.

...how the fuck did this thread morph from "Redlandia should be given the benefit of the doubt for reasons" to "Nah bro actual fascists really aren't because uhh we said so"? A polished turd is still a turd.

[DACOROMANIA]

I observe that Redlandia has the tags: Anti-communist and Anti-fascist.
If this is fascist, then why having such tags? Or is this dissimulation?

I still do not understand what this is. If so or if not. I'm sick of those 2 ideologies. All these years only this is debating in NS and wars based on that.

[The Halseyist Faction]

I've got to say, I can't even tell what's roleplaying, what's personal opinion, and what's private political beliefs, here.

I'm also utterly lost as to why anyone cares.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I've got to say, I can't even tell what's roleplaying, what's personal opinion, and what's private political beliefs, here.

I'm also utterly lost as to why anyone cares.

These are words of wisdom.

The Internet is a confusing maze of scattered information and misinformation.

[The Reddington States]

I don't believe this conversation needs to go any further. (It's been out of topic anyways thanks to members of Farkasfalka. ) The Senate has made up its mind about Redlandia's interregional policy moving forward.

Current embassies will be notified.

[Greater Germany]

You don't get to have the moral high ground.

I don't care what you think I get to have when I'm right. Stereotyping German things to automatically be Nazi is ignorant and offensive.
Now I received a message and acted on it. Why would Civil Defence Siren lie? And we have many embassies. If you have revealing information about some, please feel free to message me. Kaiserreich is one I know is anti-fascist because I talked to someone about it recently.

Oh god can you hear yourself? Using words like "bigotry" and "ignorance" is the last thing you should be doing, Mr discount swastika flag.

Your flag is very apt given your personality.

[Cataluna]

Your flag is very apt given your personality.

You obviously don't know Malphe. Not that he'd want to meet your acquaintance.

[Lyrical International Brigade]

...Stereotyping German things to automatically be Nazi is ignorant and offensive...

Assuming that you deserve the benefit of the doubt, a flag with a wolfsangel rune done up in the same white-outline style that Stormfront uses for its Celtic cross does not help your case. You're either fighting a losing battle to reclaim a symbol that pretty much fell entirely to white supremacists decades ago, or you are one yourself. Don't be surprised when people jump to the most obvious conclusion.

[Greater Germany]

Your flag is very apt given your personality.

You obviously don't know Malphe. Not that he'd want to meet your acquaintance.

*Make my acquaintance. And they already have.

Assuming that you deserve the benefit of the doubt, a flag with a wolfsangel rune done up in the same white-outline style that Stormfront uses for its Celtic cross does not help your case. You're either fighting a losing battle to reclaim a symbol that pretty much fell entirely to white supremacists decades ago, or you are one yourself. Don't be surprised when people jump to the most obvious conclusion.

This is false. The wolfsangel may be appropriated, but like the number 14 it remains in common usage. Only a slim minority of people jump to a negative conclusion (and then, that's still mostly here), and they need to be educated in the error of their ways.

[New Bremerton]

I believe you guys when you say you are neither RL fascists nor a fascist-themed region. What NS Antifa did to your previous region crossed a line, and your current region should be delisted by the CDS ASAP. I also read Vippertooth33's post on your RMB praising your revised embassy policy and dissociation from RL fascists. The stigma you have had to endure from the larger NS community due to false accusations of fascism is absolutely deplorable and wholly undeserved, and all of this simply for the "crime" of assuming that the political affiliations of players and regions on NS were entirely IC, naive as it may have been, and for having embassies with regions that you now realize are actually fascist.

When I first joined NS, I didn't know the difference between GP and RP or what they even stood for, and the IC/OOC distinction wasn't as clear to me as it is now. I assumed, like you, that because NS was a game, RL politics had no place beyond NSG and was disgusted and outraged to discover otherwise. I assumed, when I had my totalitarian puppet briefly join the CCD, that the word "fascist" in their factbook was used in a tongue-in-cheek sense to mean despotism in general rather than in its literal WWII sense (meanings change naturally over time), and the factbook read as an incomplete list of all the different types of dictatorships. Like you, I was naive and thoroughly confused by all of this, so I can totally understand where you and your fellow travelers are coming from. I'm sorry this is happening to you and I stand with you.

[Qwabour Harbour]

I believe you guys when you say you are neither RL fascists nor a fascist-themed region. What NS Antifa did to your previous region crossed a line, and your current region should be delisted by the CDS ASAP. I also read Vippertooth33's post on your RMB praising your revised embassy policy and dissociation from RL fascists. The stigma you have had to endure from the larger NS community due to false accusations of fascism is absolutely deplorable and wholly undeserved, and all of this simply for the "crime" of assuming that the political affiliations of players and regions on NS were entirely IC, naive as it may have been, and for having embassies with regions that you now realize are actually fascist.

When I first joined NS, I didn't know the difference between GP and RP or what they even stood for, and the IC/OOC distinction wasn't as clear to me as it is now. I assumed, like you, that because NS was a game, RL politics had no place beyond NSG and was disgusted and outraged to discover otherwise. I assumed, when I had my totalitarian puppet briefly join the CCD, that the word "fascist" in their factbook was used in a tongue-in-cheek sense to mean despotism in general rather than in its literal WWII sense (meanings change naturally over time), and the factbook read as an incomplete list of all the different types of dictatorships. Like you, I was naive and thoroughly confused by all of this, so I can totally understand where you and your fellow travelers are coming from. I'm sorry this is happening to you and I stand with you.

Bruh.


Their previous region was a terrible place with a terrible founder. It was not an innocent place. Even if it weren't fash, it was obviously at worst fascist sympathiser.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I believe you guys when you say you are neither RL fascists nor a fascist-themed region. What NS Antifa did to your previous region crossed a line, and your current region should be delisted by the CDS ASAP. I also read Vippertooth33's post on your RMB praising your revised embassy policy and dissociation from RL fascists. The stigma you have had to endure from the larger NS community due to false accusations of fascism is absolutely deplorable and wholly undeserved, and all of this simply for the "crime" of assuming that the political affiliations of players and regions on NS were entirely IC, naive as it may have been, and for having embassies with regions that you now realize are actually fascist.

When I first joined NS, I didn't know the difference between GP and RP or what they even stood for, and the IC/OOC distinction wasn't as clear to me as it is now. I assumed, like you, that because NS was a game, RL politics had no place beyond NSG and was disgusted and outraged to discover otherwise. I assumed, when I had my totalitarian puppet briefly join the CCD, that the word "fascist" in their factbook was used in a tongue-in-cheek sense to mean despotism in general rather than in its literal WWII sense (meanings change naturally over time), and the factbook read as an incomplete list of all the different types of dictatorships. Like you, I was naive and thoroughly confused by all of this, so I can totally understand where you and your fellow travelers are coming from. I'm sorry this is happening to you and I stand with you.

Bruh.


Their previous region was a terrible place with a terrible founder. It was not an innocent place. Even if it weren't fash, it was obviously at worst fascist sympathiser.

I know this is a puppet. Who is the puppet master?

[Cataluna]

Bruh.


Their previous region was a terrible place with a terrible founder. It was not an innocent place. Even if it weren't fash, it was obviously at worst fascist sympathiser.

I know this is a puppet. Who is the puppet master?

As much as I hate to agree with Melons, he's right.
You'll find his other nation at Honeydewistania

[LiberNovusAmericae]

You'll find his other nation at Honeydewistania

Makes sense, as he loves to post under numerous different aliases on the forum, as if they're different people.

[Gagium]

I believe you guys when you say you are neither RL fascists nor a fascist-themed region. What NS Antifa did to your previous region crossed a line, and your current region should be delisted by the CDS ASAP. I also read Vippertooth33's post on your RMB praising your revised embassy policy and dissociation from RL fascists. The stigma you have had to endure from the larger NS community due to false accusations of fascism is absolutely deplorable and wholly undeserved, and all of this simply for the "crime" of assuming that the political affiliations of players and regions on NS were entirely IC, naive as it may have been, and for having embassies with regions that you now realize are actually fascist.

When I first joined NS, I didn't know the difference between GP and RP or what they even stood for, and the IC/OOC distinction wasn't as clear to me as it is now. I assumed, like you, that because NS was a game, RL politics had no place beyond NSG and was disgusted and outraged to discover otherwise. I assumed, when I had my totalitarian puppet briefly join the CCD, that the word "fascist" in their factbook was used in a tongue-in-cheek sense to mean despotism in general rather than in its literal WWII sense (meanings change naturally over time), and the factbook read as an incomplete list of all the different types of dictatorships. Like you, I was naive and thoroughly confused by all of this, so I can totally understand where you and your fellow travelers are coming from. I'm sorry this is happening to you and I stand with you.

Bruh.


Their previous region was a terrible place with a terrible founder. It was not an innocent place. Even if it weren't fash, it was obviously at worst fascist sympathiser.

Terrible place with a terrible founder? Do you care to expand on that? Northern Redlands, though they may have had their embassies and some posts, still appeared to be a fine roleplay-based region overall. And what do you mean it was not an "innocent place"? As much as I dislike or hate some of the fascists on this site and their regions (And holocaust denialism..cough), NationStates is still just a game where each nation/player can choose their ideology and found regions for similar ideologies.

Certainly you're not calling Northern Redlands a terrible, non-innocent (?) region on this game for having nations of a particular ideology who have made some edgy and inappropriate jokes?


Either way, of course Redlandia is not fascist. I've been on the region's discord for some time now, and I've yet to encounter a fascist within the region or anyone who's advocated for fascism on the server. The raid we've carried out with the Gentleman's Coalition and Redlandia against Farkasfalka should certainly exemplify that.

[Southwest Bushfort]

I believe you guys when you say you are neither RL fascists nor a fascist-themed region. What NS Antifa did to your previous region crossed a line, and your current region should be delisted by the CDS ASAP. I also read Vippertooth33's post on your RMB praising your revised embassy policy and dissociation from RL fascists. The stigma you have had to endure from the larger NS community due to false accusations of fascism is absolutely deplorable and wholly undeserved, and all of this simply for the "crime" of assuming that the political affiliations of players and regions on NS were entirely IC, naive as it may have been, and for having embassies with regions that you now realize are actually fascist.

When I first joined NS, I didn't know the difference between GP and RP or what they even stood for, and the IC/OOC distinction wasn't as clear to me as it is now. I assumed, like you, that because NS was a game, RL politics had no place beyond NSG and was disgusted and outraged to discover otherwise. I assumed, when I had my totalitarian puppet briefly join the CCD, that the word "fascist" in their factbook was used in a tongue-in-cheek sense to mean despotism in general rather than in its literal WWII sense (meanings change naturally over time), and the factbook read as an incomplete list of all the different types of dictatorships. Like you, I was naive and thoroughly confused by all of this, so I can totally understand where you and your fellow travelers are coming from. I'm sorry this is happening to you and I stand with you.

Bruh.


Their previous region was a terrible place with a terrible founder. It was not an innocent place. Even if it weren't fash, it was obviously at worst fascist sympathiser.

TCT is not a terrible founder.

TCT is not a fascist.

TCT just happened to be too provocative for you people.

TCT was unaware that fascist regions were fascist in real life. Like all of us, he thought they were just roleplaying.

TCT also roleplayed communism.

Stop slandering our region, it's getting annoying.

[Cataluna]

snip.

I thought your region was going isolationist. Posting on NSGP doesn't seem very siolationist to me.

[Gagium]

snip.

I thought your region was going isolationist. Posting on NSGP doesn't seem very siolationist to me.

Are you saying that having a regional government that prefers to not to participate in the arguably messy NSGP community means that nobody in that region has the right to share their opinion on a thread about their region?

[Novum Vallis]

snip.

I thought your region was going isolationist. Posting on NSGP doesn't seem very siolationist to me.

Yes we chose to go isolationist, yet after Red himself said not to continue this thread any further we still see people trashing on our region.