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Is it racist to have ethnic/racial dating preferences?

Yes
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No
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Maybe
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Other (please explain)
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Plus my friend who is the police officer is also gay. Who are you to tell someone who they should pair with?
I wonder if you think he as mixed race person he should even be on the force.


He obviously shouldn't be a police officer if homosexuality is illegal where he lives. Main exception being if he's closeted enough to not have it interfere with his job performance. If being gay is legal, none of that matters. I'd say it depends on what image the state is trying to project. It only makes sense to be a police officer if someone is in full alignment with what the state wants to enforce.

Homosexuality is legal in The United States. He’s openly gay and the department could care less.

I ask you once more why racial purity matters so much to you? Who cares who someone is in love with?


Who are you to say who someone should pair with? Who you are attracted to is not something you chose. The science behind attraction is still largely shrouded in mystery

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:07 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Nantoraka wrote:How many times has this popped up? This has to be the third or so time I've seen that question.
No, it's not, enough said. People have their own preferences for appearance and ethnicity, that's just how it is.

Am I ageist for not liking underaged girls?

No, you're simply not a pedo.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:13 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Am I ageist for not liking underaged girls?

No, you're simply not a pedo.


And frankly, I think it is best for everybody here to not be a pedophile, and if anybody here actually are, seek professional help immediately before you commit harm or get harmed yourself.

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Postby Rostavykhan » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:13 pm

Racist? Not at all. Everyone has something they're attracted to, or prefer for one reason or another. I mean, I can dig darker skinned women, or Asian partners, but my main preference is definitely for Caucasians - especially blondes. Doesn't mean I have to turn down anyone who isn't blonde, blue-eyed, or White, though.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:13 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We won't get anywhere pretending that racism isn't a thing.

Not what I'm saying at all. Also, so you'd rather we just continue using terms invented by racist fuckwits 500 years ago in order to decide who's superior and who's less than human?

I'm not super pushed about whether the idea of race persists in the long term. I'm just suspicious of why some people want to delete race.

Because by that logic, you're not white. Irish only started being considered white ~70 years ago, maybe later than that.

Okay? I don't care.
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Postby Nantoraka » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:22 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:No, you're simply not a pedo.


And frankly, I think it is best for everybody here to not be a pedophile, and if anybody here actually are, seek professional help immediately before you commit harm or get harmed yourself.

Reminds me of this one barcroft tv video that features a pedophile that wanted "to be dominated by little boys"

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Postby First American Empire » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:48 pm

Why do people even care about what race their partner is? When I first started dating my wife, I didn't even think about turning her down just because she was black. I just fundamentally do not understand why racists act the way they do. Why would you want to date someone more only because they're the same race as you?! It makes no sense whatsoever.
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Postby First American Empire » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:51 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
First American Empire wrote:Why do people even care about what race their partner is? When I first started dating my wife, I didn't even think about turning her down just because she was black. I just fundamentally do not understand why racists act the way they do. Why would you want to date someone more only because they're the same race as you?! It makes no sense whatsoever.

What if you're attracted significantly more to black men, like you'll always hear white women being or whatever(Something I never understood but hey each to their own), or being a man attracted to asians or latinas more, or any other number of scenarios?


I don't understand why those scenarios would happen either.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:59 pm

Ifreann wrote:
New haven america wrote:Not what I'm saying at all. Also, so you'd rather we just continue using terms invented by racist fuckwits 500 years ago in order to decide who's superior and who's less than human?

I'm not super pushed about whether the idea of race persists in the long term. I'm just suspicious of why some people want to delete race.

I don't want to delete race. However, to answer your question: Because race didn't exist until 500 years ago and it's only/original use is and has been to further discriminate and divide/dehumanize human populations because of a feature that's only skin deep.

You don't find that to be fucked up?
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Postby Free African Union » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:06 am

New haven america wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm not super pushed about whether the idea of race persists in the long term. I'm just suspicious of why some people want to delete race.

I don't want to delete race. However, to answer your question: Because race didn't exist until 500 years ago and it's only/original use is and has been to further discriminate and divide/dehumanize human populations because of a feature that's only skin deep.

You don't find that to be fucked up?

That doesn't change that what you're asking us to do is still harmful.
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Postby Aellex » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:38 am

First American Empire wrote:Why do people even care about what race their partner is? When I first started dating my wife, I didn't even think about turning her down just because she was black. I just fundamentally do not understand why racists act the way they do. Why would you want to date someone more only because they're the same race as you?! It makes no sense whatsoever.

Aesthetic reasons can play a role too; I like tanned skin and thus am more attracted to Arab girls. Is it inherently worse than preferring blonde or brunette because of their hair color?
At the end of the day, while it's silly to restrict oneself on racial grounds, you can't change what you like or don't like.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:16 am

Not really. Finding one race more attractive than others to you is not racist it is just what you think.
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Postby Herador » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:29 am

Free African Union wrote:
New haven america wrote:I don't want to delete race. However, to answer your question: Because race didn't exist until 500 years ago and it's only/original use is and has been to further discriminate and divide/dehumanize human populations because of a feature that's only skin deep.

You don't find that to be fucked up?

That doesn't change that what you're asking us to do is still harmful.

As someone on the outside of this particular debate, I'm having trouble understanding why you think doing away with a harmful classification system and the inherently racist position it supports unless you yourself also harbor these feelings. I've seen it said you support segregation and I noticed your signature supports an apparent ethno-state, so maybe that isn't far off.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:45 am

New haven america wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm not super pushed about whether the idea of race persists in the long term. I'm just suspicious of why some people want to delete race.

I don't want to delete race. However, to answer your question:

I didn't ask you a question.
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Postby Misthas » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:49 am

The Oxford Dictionary definition of racism is: "Discrimination or prejudice based on race." So, yes, it is racist, in the form that you are discriminating based on that person's race. However, it is not prejudiced or bigoted to do so, therefore it's not immoral.
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Postby Ziyu » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:53 am

Nope. I'm only attracted to European, Arab, East Asian and North Indian women. Not racist, just a personal preference I can't help.

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Postby New Bremerton » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:58 am

Am I homophobic for not being attracted to other guys? No, it's not, nor is it racist to prefer white/Asian chicks to black chicks.

Is it racist if I have a fetish for a particular race? Is it racist if I view white women as being more "exotic" than Asian women (I'm Asian)? I'd say no to both, but that's just me.
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Postby Herador » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:01 am

New Bremerton wrote:Am I homophobic for not being attracted to other guys? No, it's not, nor is it racist to prefer white/Asian chicks to black chicks.

Is it racist if I have a fetish for a particular race? Is it racist if I view white women as being more "exotic" than Asian women (I'm Asian)? I'd say no to both, but that's just me.

People of a group tend to take being fetishized poorly. A big point of contention when I was originally dating my now-wife was I told her a big part of the initial attraction was her accent. She is also Asian.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:29 am

Depends on the reasoning behind it. If someone, say, just has an innate preference for Latina women, it doesn't make them racist, it's just their personal preference. If someone, say, just wants a white woman because "muh genepool," yeah, that's racist.

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Postby New Bremerton » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:55 am

Herador wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:Am I homophobic for not being attracted to other guys? No, it's not, nor is it racist to prefer white/Asian chicks to black chicks.

Is it racist if I have a fetish for a particular race? Is it racist if I view white women as being more "exotic" than Asian women (I'm Asian)? I'd say no to both, but that's just me.

People of a group tend to take being fetishized poorly. A big point of contention when I was originally dating my now-wife was I told her a big part of the initial attraction was her accent. She is also Asian.


I suspected as much. I try not to minimize people to mere objects of affection/infatuation.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:09 am

San Lumen wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
He obviously shouldn't be a police officer if homosexuality is illegal where he lives. Main exception being if he's closeted enough to not have it interfere with his job performance. If being gay is legal, none of that matters. I'd say it depends on what image the state is trying to project. It only makes sense to be a police officer if someone is in full alignment with what the state wants to enforce.

Homosexuality is legal in The United States. He’s openly gay and the department could care less.

I ask you once more why racial purity matters so much to you? Who cares who someone is in love with?


Who are you to say who someone should pair with? Who you are attracted to is not something you chose. The science behind attraction is still largely shrouded in mystery

Stop asking him, he is a racial supremacist, you wont get anything logical from them on why racial purity matters because its a load of fucking bollocks.
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Postby Libertas Omnium Maximus » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:13 am

Major-Tom wrote:Depends on the reasoning behind it. If someone, say, just has an innate preference for Latina women, it doesn't make them racist, it's just their personal preference. If someone, say, just wants a white woman because "muh genepool," yeah, that's racist.


Yeah, we pretty much all agree on this. Surprisingly.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:07 pm

Ifreann wrote:
New haven america wrote:I don't want to delete race. However, to answer your question:

I didn't ask you a question.

Yep, you basically did.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:31 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stop asking him, he is a racial supremacist, you wont get anything logical from them on why racial purity matters because its a load of fucking bollocks.


It isn't nonsense, it is very much logical if you're wedded to the ideal of ethnostates and nationalism as I am. Each nation should have one single majority as an ethnic "base" to draw from, with minority groups only being secondary or a bonus in terms of function, but kept from ever outright replacing any current majority in that nation.

Japan for example, must always be majority Japanese. France, majority French. Like Germany is to be majority German. I'm speaking of the ethnic group associated with each nation, not the language.
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Postby Kaystein » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stop asking him, he is a racial supremacist, you wont get anything logical from them on why racial purity matters because its a load of fucking bollocks.


It isn't nonsense, it is very much logical if you're wedded to the ideal of ethnostates and nationalism as I am.


Can you believe, The Huskar Social Union, that people like this are tolerated in their regions like europe?

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