Europeian Embassy - In Solidarity

[King HEM]

To be clear, I'm not in any way in FA leadership at this point. So please don't take my memes or comments as official statements!!!!

BUT I don't think a speech kicking off a conflict is going to be the formal list of objectives for the war. There's a difference between a formal announcement and actual war-time objectives, and to be real, if anyone in this forum is going to claim their public remarks have never been more bombastic than their actual goals, ima gonna call that a load of BS!

Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm not sure how it's a good PR strategy for all you folks who have been in the trenches of this war openly being like, "Europeia is dumb for declaring an end to the conflict because we haven't actually accomplished ANYTHING of value or victory!!!!" Seems like actively a pretty BAD PR strategy actually.

A lot has been accomplished. Maybe it isn't enough for some—and that's fair—but it's enough for us, and we're sure as hell not going to outsource foreign policy to the public opinion in the NSGP forum // discord server lmao.

Noted.

I’m more so reflecting on the arrogance of the speech, where Euro acts as if it were the tip of the spear.

As a private citizen of Europeia (and ugh i guess founder......) I respect your opinion and take it into account.

[Cormactopia Prime]

I really couldn't care less if Europeia has declared "victory." Europeia has the right to be absurd.

What bothers me is that Europeia has declared the NPO "transformed," and in so doing has supported the NPO's propaganda efforts, while undermining the other regions at war with the NPO. You're not just buying into their lies about reform, you're bolstering those lies by saying their reforms are legitimate.

Frankly, I don't know why any of the regions still at war with the NPO would have anything to do with you, and I hope Pacifica won't.

[Armaros]

Wait wait wait.

So you declared war on the NPO to overthrow the NPO but then declared victory when the NPO is still sitting there? 1 you buy into their propaganda, 2 I haven't seen Europeia greatly contribute to the war anyway, but that's just me maybe.

In other news, can I take a moment to declare war upon and victory over TGW? I wanted to destroy them so I tagged an inactive region with 2 people. I have won the war now pls respect that.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Congratulations on your hard fought victory. I'll put it on the fridge with all of the others.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Bush comparisons aside, thank you again for being among the first willing to stand by TBH in starting what was, at the time, very much a David vs Goliath fight. Let the world not forget which regions and players stood up against TP’s abuse and the spread of Francosim first, and got the ball rolling with their planning, cohesive focus, elbow grease, fundamental groundwork, and endorsements. You are correct to note that what was rapidly achieved in the early days of this movement is, at the least, nothing to be laughed at.

-Souls

[Glen-Rhodes]

Congrats to NPO on being utterly demolished by Europeia. Couldn’t imagine a worse defeat.

[Kranostav]

The new government of the New Pacific Order has stepped away from the heated rhetoric of the past and promised not to repeat the mistakes of its predecessors.

Hasn't this facade been par for the course in all the previous times?

[Pierconium]

While the Pacific is likely to maintain a difference of opinion on whether or not certain events constitute a diplomatic victory or simply a return to common sense, we do not dispute the right of Europeia to characterize their war effort as a victory based on the items noted within their statement yesterday. The Pacific has withdrawn Francoism as a guiding principle. It has removed the Emperor and Consul and several members of the government. It did restructure its government to acknowledge the need for change. And it is currently in the process of electing its first 'Peoples' Senator'. The change is real. And on that basis, I am glad to see that Europeia has acknowledged that the Pacific is capable of such and that direct and specific steps towards reconciliation with the wider NS community are taking place.

We do not anticipate a kum ba yah moment or a hand-holding ceremony with Europeia in the foreseeable future, but we acknowledge the cessation of hostilities.

Personally, I concur with King HEM. It is quite humorous to see that the main line of argument against Europeia from the remoaning regions supposedly fighting the Pacific is that you have done nothing and nothing has been accomplished so everyone should keep fighting. Good job, as usual.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

While the Pacific is likely to maintain a difference of opinion on whether or not certain events constitute a diplomatic victory or simply a return to common sense, we do not dispute the right of Europeia to characterize their war effort as a victory based on the items noted within their statement yesterday. The Pacific has withdrawn Francoism as a guiding principle. It has removed the Emperor and Consul and several members of the government. It did restructure its government to acknowledge the need for change. And it is currently in the process of electing its first 'Peoples' Senator'. The change is real. And on that basis, I am glad to see that Europeia has acknowledged that the Pacific is capable of such and that direct and specific steps towards reconciliation with the wider NS community are taking place.

We do not anticipate a kum ba yah moment or a hand-holding ceremony with Europeia in the foreseeable future, but we acknowledge the cessation of hostilities.

Personally, I concur with King HEM. It is quite humorous to see that the main line of argument against Europeia from the remoaning regions supposedly fighting the Pacific is that you have done nothing and nothing has been accomplished so everyone should keep fighting. Good job, as usual.

Perhaps a good gesture of reconciliation would be for both regions to remove their bans on joint citizenship with the other?

[The Seeker of Power]

To Europeia and it's leadership:

While - in the words of the Consul - "we do not anticipate a kum ba yah moment or a hand-holding ceremony with Europeia in the foreseeable future" - let me say that should Europeia desire to establish any kind of FA relationship - even respectful acknowledgement - my doors are open for any discussion. Communication is usually the way forward.

Elegarth
Legatus
Senator of the New Pacific Order

[Frankland]

Speaking for myself and for St Abbaddon, I thank you for all that you did to help right the wrongs of the NPO in our region. This has been yet another entry in a list of times Euro has come through for St Abbaddon, and I'm glad to count you as a friend.

I can understand the frustration of Cormac and my friends from Pacifica that this statement seems to legitimize the story of change coming out of The Pacific. I too share skepticism that a region themed as NPO is, and celebrating the history that NPO celebrates, is ever going to stop being filled with Perg and Feux types. And once the reigns are loosened those types will be back up to Perg and Feux stuff. This is the history of NPO since, the original Perg and Feux type, Francos Spain committed original act of Perg and Feux stuff.

Outside of the Lazarenes, I doubt there's anyone that feels more distaste for NPO's ways than myself. I have no faith that anything has changed in a meaningful way that will prevent this history from repeating. I do not doubt that in a couple years we'll be right back at square one with NPO involved in some shady ill-planned power moves. But I have pretty high faith that if I'm right about that and NPO causes trouble again - Europeia will be right there with us.

There's little doubt if you look back at the President's initial statement about all this that The Pacific has yielded in every area mentioned. The war against TBH was surrendered, the espionage was addressed through bans and the unprecedented resignation of an Emperor over scandal, Francoism is allegedly abandoned, and the fight was given up in St Abbaddon. It is hard to imagine what could have gone better. To me the best sign of victory in this effort is looking back on what happened to St Abbaddon and realizing that there's simply no way NPO has the power to do it again. St Abbaddon was held for months NOT by dozens of pilers but by the diplomatic strength and reputation of the NPO. It was vulnerable operationally almost every update, as NPO only stationed a couple units in the region, but no one did anything because a fight with the NPO simply wasn't worth it. That's long gone now, and I doubt it'll be back for some time. Their ability to hold or threaten regions other than The Pacific has been crushed by this new political reality.

I agree with Europeia's decision and support it fully. From where we are and all we have accomplished there is little left to fight to achieve. The goal was never to unseat the NPO in The Pacific, and to read the failure to do so as defeat is to read the Gulf War as a defeat for the coalition because Iraq stayed Iraq instead of a 51st state. Few of us on the anti-NPO side are interested in GCR politics, and fewer still in politics in The Pacific. We are very interested in keeping those that are interested in running The Pacific out of our regions and our business. To me the future of the effort to keep all regions safe from a resurgent NPO threat is sustained distrust and preparedness rather than - to quote the chief of state - perpetual war. I did not perceive any level of trust that NPO was going to take the opportunity before it to cease its hostile actions permanently, nor do I suspect that Europeia will be ill-prepared to deal with a resurgent NPO threat. It seems to me, Europeia's course is both reasonable and right.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

The goal was never to unseat the NPO in The Pacific

I'd disagree, but I'd also note that I personally think the window of unity and unilateral drive necessary to have a reasonable chance of achieving that was abruptly ended a ways back. I can't blame Euro, in abstract, for getting on top of that conclusion now.

[Pierconium]

The goal was never to unseat the NPO in The Pacific

I'd disagree, but I'd also note that I personally think the window of unity and unilateral drive necessary to have a reasonable chance of achieving that was abruptly ended a ways back. I can't blame Euro, in abstract, for getting on top of that conclusion now.

Maybe if you had some of those supposed ‘Organizers’ actually organising things it wouldn’t come across as no one in the opposition having a clue as to what the actual war objectives are/were.

Just a thought.

[Altinsane]

Europeia -

Congrats on your, um… Victory. While we agree that we have had our fair share of wins in this war - many that you've pointed out here - we feel we can be honest enough with ourselves not to wear as a crown the “victories” that NPO has given us in order to play innocent until everyone forgets that this is what they do (for the third time now? Or fourth?) and get back to their old games again. These “victories” would have been more truthfully described as “manipulations that we've chosen to overlook,” but closing your eyes does not mean that you've won. It only means that you will be caught by surprise. Again. But that is your burden to bear.

We wish you all the best in whatever you and your Presidents who are not Presidents will be doing now.



Because we know everyone is dying to know, APC would like to leave you all with the assurance that we are not going anywhere. NPO has diminished significantly in our time at war, and that can be seen in even the simplest ways, like who they are allowing to present themselves publicly as the “star cast” of NPO. This is a win, but we are not so naive to presume it a victory. Our message remains the same: NPO manipulates, NPO lies, NPO subverts, NPO cannot be trusted. From the regions within our ranks directly victimized by NPO's subversions to the UCRs among us who have for years been demonized and lambasted for simply existing, we remain unshaken. We haven't forgotten the kind of region that NPO is. We won't forget it. As we poke and watch NPO work, we don't find that the very obvious attempts to trick us into making mistakes or lure us into traps made by NPO strategists screams very loudly that they have been transformed. We, victims of a culture that they have worshipped for longer than many of us have even been playing the game, continue to twist ourselves around their tricks and mockery, as we have for years. It has not gone away. We don't intend to wait another 3 or 4 years for everyone to find out that they're back at it again. We're remaining watchful in the present and we will continue to fight.


Hugs and Kisses,

APC ♡

[Zuhayrian]

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There ain’t no victory yet, bruv.

[Altinsane]

There ain’t no victory yet, bruv.

You extremely quoted the wrong thing. Lol. But agree though.

[Grater Tovakia]

Come on Zuhay (Jk)

Love the statement, NPO Delenda est!

[Pierconium]

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Europeia -

Congrats on your, um… Victory. While we agree that we have had our fair share of wins in this war - many that you've pointed out here - we feel we can be honest enough with ourselves not to wear as a crown the “victories” that NPO has given us in order to play innocent until everyone forgets that this is what they do (for the third time now? Or fourth?) and get back to their old games again. These “victories” would have been more truthfully described as “manipulations that we've chosen to overlook,” but closing your eyes does not mean that you've won. It only means that you will be caught by surprise. Again. But that is your burden to bear.

We wish you all the best in whatever you and your Presidents who are not Presidents will be doing now.



Because we know everyone is dying to know, APC would like to leave you all with the assurance that we are not going anywhere. NPO has diminished significantly in our time at war, and that can be seen in even the simplest ways, like who they are allowing to present themselves publicly as the “star cast” of NPO. This is a win, but we are not so naive to presume it a victory. Our message remains the same: NPO manipulates, NPO lies, NPO subverts, NPO cannot be trusted. From the regions within our ranks directly victimized by NPO's subversions to the UCRs among us who have for years been demonized and lambasted for simply existing, we remain unshaken. We haven't forgotten the kind of region that NPO is. We won't forget it. As we poke and watch NPO work, we don't find that the very obvious attempts to trick us into making mistakes or lure us into traps made by NPO strategists screams very loudly that they have been transformed. We, victims of a culture that they have worshipped for longer than many of us have even been playing the game, continue to twist ourselves around their tricks and mockery, as we have for years. It has not gone away. We don't intend to wait another 3 or 4 years for everyone to find out that they're back at it again. We're remaining watchful in the present and we will continue to fight.


Hugs and Kisses,

APC ♡

Hey look, finally an ‘official’ statement from the APC. Still no clear objectives though. Not surprised.

So, since some people thought Europeia was part of the APC, can you clarify which regions you are speaking for here? Thanks!

[Grater Tovakia]

Hey look, finally an ‘official’ statement from the APC. Still no clear objectives though. Not surprised.

Is overthrowing the NPO clear enough for you?

[Pierconium]

Is overthrowing the NPO clear enough for you?

How is that going?

[Grater Tovakia]

Is overthrowing the NPO clear enough for you?

How is that going?

Pretty well, all things considered, our weekly planning session/bingo night is a fun time.

[RiderSyl]

Is overthrowing the NPO clear enough for you?

How is that going?

So it is clear enough for you? Why'd you act like Altino's statement didn't contain any clear objectives, then?
Omg, were you being intentionally misleading? No way, not you!

[Pierconium]

How is that going?

Pretty well, all things considered, our weekly planning session/bingo night is a fun time.

So are you one of the ‘Organizers’ then?

If so, you really are doing a poor job of it. Good to know your weekly planning meetings are going well though.

Checks sig...might want to put a bit more effort in though.

Of course, the only clear ‘objective’ in the statement is that the supposed APC will continue to be ‘watchful’. So I guess sitting around and doing nothing and watching is a success on some level?

[RiderSyl]

So I guess sitting around and doing nothing and watching is a success on some level?

So, in your experience, the NPO has done nothing?

I really hope you're the one handling intel.

[Grater Tovakia]

Pretty well, all things considered, our weekly planning session/bingo night is a fun time.

So are you one of the ‘Organizers’ then?

If so, you really are doing a poor job of it. Good to know your weekly planning meetings are going well though.

Checks sig...might want to put a bit more effort in though.

Of course, the only clear ‘objective’ in the statement is that the supposed APC will continue to be ‘watchful’. So I guess sitting around and doing nothing and watching is a success on some level?

LOL, not an organizer. Also, I like my sig and I do not appreciate insults directed at it