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by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:00 pm
by Miklania » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:05 pm
Thuzbekistan wrote:Miklania wrote:You are actually deploying ground forces to the island? What's going to happen when they meet ours?
The response to your fleet moving towards San Javier will be to deploy the Stormkeeper battle group and every other ship and boat in 3rd Fleet to run interference.
Which would lead to what? You firing on our ships? If you did that, you would be starting a war. Our stated intentions would be to stop the invasion of San Javier.
As for meeting miklanian troops, our roe would be to not fire until fired upon. We would be placing ourselves in between menna's forces and the capital and basically say "stop. Come to the negotiating table. But advance no further."
If you guys fired on mine or took action, well. There would be a fight.
by Miklania » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:11 pm
by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:17 pm
by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:17 pm
Miklania wrote:I'm really strongly opposed to the open deployment of Thuzbek forces to stop the invasion. Miklanian and Doraltic forces are already part of the invasion, they are arriving at the moment, and will have boots on the ground days before you do, so that means that you would be the one openly declaring war on us. It would be like the Soviets deploying their army to Vietnam, or NATO counter-invading Afghanistan. It just isn't done. Realizing that they are too late to step in like that, the Thuzbeks should feel salty for a while, then try to raise a geopolitical stink and secretly send aid to the communist forces in-country, they way the Soviets actually did in Vietnam and the US actually did in Afghanistan.
As for our motivations, they are 100% realpolitik. We tried to stop it, but it was going to happen anyway, and we feel guilty for our part in it, so now we want to make sure that it's over as quickly and painlessly as it can.
by Miklania » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:19 pm
by Dormill and Stiura » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:21 pm
by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:21 pm
by Dormill and Stiura » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:22 pm
Miklania wrote:We could cast it as a race, the first one to get there and actually start fighting would be the one that gets to stay, as the other side would then be seen to be fighting on the opposite side of the same battlefield, effectively at war as far as anyone else is concerned. Recognizing this, both sides ruch to get their boots on the ground first.
by Miklania » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:24 pm
by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:25 pm
Miklania wrote:I'm amenable to that. The broader geopolitical connections are interesting.
D&S I'm willing to take the lead and thus the blame for the incident. You're people are concerned about the optics; in typical Miklanian fashion we could give a rat's left buttcheek what other people think. (That is until stuff goes really sideways.) And we like being in charge. And we have the bigger boat.
by Miklania » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:26 pm
by Dormill and Stiura » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:29 pm
Miklania wrote:I'm amenable to that. The broader geopolitical connections are interesting.
D&S I'm willing to take the lead and thus the blame for the incident. You're people are concerned about the optics; in typical Miklanian fashion we could give a rat's left buttcheek what other people think. (That is until stuff goes really sideways.) And we like being in charge. And we have the bigger boat.
Thuzbekistan wrote:Pretty much. All ago then?
by Menna Shuli » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:30 pm
by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:32 pm
by Dormill and Stiura » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:32 pm
Menna Shuli wrote:Woah. Lots to try and unpack here. So...
Dorm, Agustin is a walled town that operates as the home base of the Anliana Cartel. I always pictured it being a series of rocky bluffs and cliffs jutting out of the jungle, with the main holdout at the top and poorer favella-style buildings spilling down the bluffs at steep angles. Picture if the rock of Christ the Redeemer at Rio de Janeiro was covered in buildings. Not much in the way of air defense, but heavily armed on the ground.
I kind of got lost in all the naval discussion. What do you need my opinion on?
Thuzbekistan wrote:Suggested post sequence on the naval front would be as follows:
1. Doraltic ships come in contact with Thuzbek, begin interfering, couple of follow ups and decision post.
2. Thuzbek ships keep sailing, dorm keeps annoying us. Then we run into Miklanian ships. See the line, try to barrel through. The encounter continues.
Menna if I'm not deploying troops, no need to contact them long run.
by Menna Shuli » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:37 pm
by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:39 pm
Menna Shuli wrote:MS doesn't have a fit enough horse to run the race you guys are putting on, so feel free to do what you find most interesting. If this conflict spirals into an IW3, I'm cool with it. If not, still cool with it. I'm always open for MS and the Coral Sea to be a front for a more expansive conflict.
by Dormill and Stiura » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:42 pm
Thuzbekistan wrote:Menna Shuli wrote:MS doesn't have a fit enough horse to run the race you guys are putting on, so feel free to do what you find most interesting. If this conflict spirals into an IW3, I'm cool with it. If not, still cool with it. I'm always open for MS and the Coral Sea to be a front for a more expansive conflict.
Looks like we wont be going that way today. But perhaps someday.
by Miklania » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:06 pm
by Thuzbekistan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:20 pm
Miklania wrote:Thuz I think you need more expeditionary capabilities if you are going to be doing this sort of thing in the future. I'll slap together a quote for more, modern airlifters and some amphibious ships.
by Wellsia » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:52 pm
by Dormill and Stiura » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:03 pm
Wellsia wrote:How soon we are forgotten, Wellsia is the closest nation to San Javier, and you are operating on the coast closes to my bases and airfields, not to mention Milklania has to sail pass Wellsia to get to San Javier.
by Miklania » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:47 pm
Wellsia wrote:How soon we are forgotten, Wellsia is the closest nation to San Javier, and you are operating on the coast closes to my bases and airfields, not to mention Milklania has to sail pass Wellsia to get to San Javier.
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