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by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:07 pm
by King HEM » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:18 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:This is really sad on Europeia's part. I hope no one will take your commitments seriously in the future.
by Grater Tovakia » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:23 pm
by Austerain » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:25 pm
by Grater Tovakia » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:27 pm
Austerain wrote:Methinks that Cormac is just mad because other regions may follow suit in questioning what else APC can do in the effort against NPO at this point, surely he isn't personally invested?
by King HEM » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:28 pm
Grater Tovakia wrote:Austerain wrote:Methinks that Cormac is just mad because other regions may follow suit in questioning what else APC can do in the effort against NPO at this point, surely he isn't personally invested?
The APC can do a lot, and most other regions have guts to finish what they started.
by The Pharcyde » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:33 pm
Grater Tovakia wrote:So you withdraw before the Senate passes anything?
That seems like an ass-backwards way of doing things
by The Tri State Area and Maine » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:52 pm
by King HEM » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:59 pm
The Tri State Area and Maine wrote:King HEM wrote:
The "guts" to do what?
What guts does it take to stay in a war that is universally popular, but where there are few if any offensive actions still to take?
You really thought that kicking the NPO out of St Abbadon would be enough?
Actions such as this are why the NPO's victory was obvious from the start.
by Tim-Opolis » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:01 pm
<Koth - 06/30/2020> I mean as far as GPers go, Tim is one of the most iconic
by King HEM » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:02 pm
Tim-Opolis wrote:Europeia should teach their noobs some PR skills before giving them the presidency.
This is just cringe.
by Tim-Opolis » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:04 pm
<Koth - 06/30/2020> I mean as far as GPers go, Tim is one of the most iconic
by The Tri State Area and Maine » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:08 pm
King HEM wrote:The Tri State Area and Maine wrote:You really thought that kicking the NPO out of St Abbadon would be enough?
Actions such as this are why the NPO's victory was obvious from the start.
This whole discussion is really weird.
Europeia was the first region to declare war. We didn't follow anyone's lead or attach ourselves to anyone else's manifesto.
Here's what it comes down to:
Since the pressure campaign and the war, the New Pacific Order has objectively, transformed. For some players, those transformations won't be enough and instead, they will seek the deconstruction of the entire regime. That's a perfectly fair opinion to have, and every region should feel empowered to fight for that if that's what they believe in.
That was never Europeia's objective. Our objectives have been met, hence our victory. If they aren't sufficient objectives for you, then stop wasting time chiding us and go fight the damn war lol
by King HEM » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:08 pm
by USS Merrimack » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:12 pm
by King HEM » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:14 pm
by The Tri State Area and Maine » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:16 pm
King HEM wrote:WHAT is the air of self-importance here?
We literally posted a statement being like, "our objectives were met and here's why" and everyone is acting like they found their s/o on grindr lol!!!
anyway!!!
by Killer Kitty » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:17 pm
by USS Merrimack » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:19 pm
King HEM wrote:WHAT is the air of self-importance here?
We literally posted a statement being like, "our objectives were met and here's why" and everyone is acting like they found their s/o on grindr lol!!!
anyway!!!
by King HEM » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:26 pm
by USS Merrimack » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:36 pm
King HEM wrote:To be clear, I'm not in any way in FA leadership at this point. So please don't take my memes or comments as official statements!!!!
BUT I don't think a speech kicking off a conflict is going to be the formal list of objectives for the war. There's a difference between a formal announcement and actual war-time objectives, and to be real, if anyone in this forum is going to claim their public remarks have never been more bombastic than their actual goals, ima gonna call that a load of BS!
Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm not sure how it's a good PR strategy for all you folks who have been in the trenches of this war openly being like, "Europeia is dumb for declaring an end to the conflict because we haven't actually accomplished ANYTHING of value or victory!!!!" Seems like actively a pretty BAD PR strategy actually.
A lot has been accomplished. Maybe it isn't enough for some—and that's fair—but it's enough for us, and we're sure as hell not going to outsource foreign policy to the public opinion in the NSGP forum // discord server lmao.
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