As the Poppies Bloom (TWI ONLY | OOC)

[Thuzbekistan]

It just occured to me that my communists dont have a name. They will be called the Centrist People's Front.

Cultural appropriation. You might as well just use either the popular revolution or the other one cos they were the relevant ones historically

No, I want them to be trying to distance themselves from Santa ana. These are the "well intentioned communists" not the people who threw bodies at tanks and decapitated people. Its run by some veterans as well. I'm also framing these guys as a smaller op who survived the following purges in the north rather than as the bigger groups in Santa ana

[Negarakita]

Cultural appropriation. You might as well just use either the popular revolution or the other one cos they were the relevant ones historically

No, I want them to be trying to distance themselves from Santa ana. These are the "well intentioned communists" not the people who threw bodies at tanks and decapitated people. Its run by some veterans as well. I'm also framing these guys as a smaller op who survived the following purges in the north rather than as the bigger groups in Santa ana

Ok. I wouldn't say that "Centrist People's Front" is a great name.

Depending on how united the commies are nowadays, a name like National Liberation Front - Leandrista (Leandrista National Liberation Front) could work. That way its kinda standardised and makes the possibility of all sorts of "National Liberation Fronts" possible. It also expresses the whole division and sectarian unity in the movement. Otherwise, something like Revolutionary Armed Forces of San Javier would make sense. I'm basing these of rl latin american guerilla groups, so (letter)NLF is like the Sandinistas and the second suggestion is basically FARC in Colombia.

[Thuzbekistan]

No, I want them to be trying to distance themselves from Santa ana. These are the "well intentioned communists" not the people who threw bodies at tanks and decapitated people. Its run by some veterans as well. I'm also framing these guys as a smaller op who survived the following purges in the north rather than as the bigger groups in Santa ana

Ok. I wouldn't say that "Centrist People's Front" is a great name.

Depending on how united the commies are nowadays, a name like National Liberation Front - Leandrista (Leandrista National Liberation Front) could work. That way its kinda standardised and makes the possibility of all sorts of "National Liberation Fronts" possible. It also expresses the whole division and sectarian unity in the movement. Otherwise, something like Revolutionary Armed Forces of San Javier would make sense. I'm basing these of rl latin american guerilla groups, so (letter)NLF is like the Sandinistas and the second suggestion is basically FARC in Colombia.

The second one sounds a lot nicer. Ty mam

[Negarakita]

Ok. I wouldn't say that "Centrist People's Front" is a great name.

Depending on how united the commies are nowadays, a name like National Liberation Front - Leandrista (Leandrista National Liberation Front) could work. That way its kinda standardised and makes the possibility of all sorts of "National Liberation Fronts" possible. It also expresses the whole division and sectarian unity in the movement. Otherwise, something like Revolutionary Armed Forces of San Javier would make sense. I'm basing these of rl latin american guerilla groups, so (letter)NLF is like the Sandinistas and the second suggestion is basically FARC in Colombia.

The second one sounds a lot nicer. Ty mam

Alg. I like naming things.

[Thuzbekistan]

Balnik, dude. Did you just deploy a private army via a cargo ship? Is San Javier allowing you to patrol their streets? Since when could you just deploy to the northern islands and rush to meet Menna in battle without even discussing things on the ooc?

[Balnik]

Balnik, dude. Did you just deploy a private army via a cargo ship? Is San Javier allowing you to patrol their streets? Since when could you just deploy to the northern islands and rush to meet Menna in battle without even discussing things on the ooc?

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This is true. I should have been more transparent on the OOC. But I was given perimission to land mercs. Although I may scrap the southern movement or just postpone it.

[Menna Shuli]

Menna Shuli how are you wanting the Battle of Pueblo Ignacio to go? Victory, defeat or tie? I was thinking of having a company of 250 men moved there to backup the locals.

Victory, but not a resounding one. These initial battles are supposed to be disatrous.

[Dormill and Stiura]

Balnik, dude. Did you just deploy a private army via a cargo ship? Is San Javier allowing you to patrol their streets? Since when could you just deploy to the northern islands and rush to meet Menna in battle without even discussing things on the ooc?

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This is true. I should have been more transparent on the OOC. But I was given perimission to land mercs. Although I may scrap the southern movement or just postpone it.

I’d expect the Legion to focus on protecting oil rigs and oil shipments rather than attacking the Mennans initially. Once an international coalition begins to filter in, then the Junta would start throwing the mercs at the problem.

[Menna Shuli]

Balnik, dude. Did you just deploy a private army via a cargo ship? Is San Javier allowing you to patrol their streets? Since when could you just deploy to the northern islands and rush to meet Menna in battle without even discussing things on the ooc?

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=460059&start=75

This is true. I should have been more transparent on the OOC. But I was given perimission to land mercs. Although I may scrap the southern movement or just postpone it.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=460059&start=75

This is true. I should have been more transparent on the OOC. But I was given perimission to land mercs. Although I may scrap the southern movement or just postpone it.

I’d expect the Legion to focus on protecting oil rigs and oil shipments rather than attacking the Mennans initially. Once an international coalition begins to filter in, then the Junta would start throwing the mercs at the problem.

He did ask, Thuz. I'm a little surprised by how he wants to use them, though. I don't think the junta would have mercs patrol the streets of Castillo Verde. They'd want to throw them at the immediate problems. Guarding the oilfields does make sense, which would require southern movement: Constantina is the heart of the oilfields, which is why the Mennan army is gunning for it. Up to you whether that's what you want.

[Wellsia]

Are we trying to keep these battles on the small size. The Menna invaders only numbered 1600, the Balnik force is 500, I know Miklania is sending a regiment, just don’t want to do overkill. The force I was sending a full independent brigade of 5400 men. Is this to many?

[Menna Shuli]

Are we trying to keep these battles on the small size. The Menna invaders only numbered 1600, the Balnik force is 500, I know Miklania is sending a regiment, just don’t want to do overkill. The force I was sending a full independent brigade of 5400 men. Is this to many?

The reason there were so few men in the initial attack is that MS didn't have the transportation infrastructure to send more. The first battles, as a result, will be quite small from that perspective. If you want to send more, that's fine. The Mennans will eventually send far greater numbers, and god knows SJ has enough soldiers to throw at the walls.

[Wellsia]

The Wellsian 3rd Hunter Brigade being sent to San Javier is an independent brigade and consists of 4 rifle battalions (each of three companies, a machine gun half-company, and an anti-tank half company), an artillery battery (8 guns), an anti-tank battery (8 guns), recon half-company, engineer platoon, communications platoon, medical half-company, UAV platoon, and command and support troops. Total of some 5400 men.

[Miklania]

The unit I'm sending is the 22nd Light Infantry Brigade from the 27th Infantry Division (Light). It would be about the same size as Wellsia's force, with three battalions each composed of three rifle companies and a weapons company (with machine guns, medium mortars, and AT), plus a logistics and support battalion (Including a M.A.S.H.), an engineer company, an artillery battalion, and a squadron of heavy lift helicopters (Chinooks) from the division's aviation wing. They'll be backed up by an ISC class destroyer, an LPD, and the Air Force's 959th Fighter Squadron, which will have some C130s and an AWACS aircraft attached to it for good measure. The next step in escalation would be more ships, possibly including Stormkeeper, more fighters, and a company or battalion of Paramarines. This is in addition to RMS Threnody, a nuclear attack submarine that is already on station and will likely remain there for the duration.

[Dormill and Stiura]

finally the only troops that I would count as regulars, besides us, are the Thuzbeki Marines

Uhh, Wellsia. Last I checked Thuzbek Marines weren't involved in this fight?

[Munstenheim]

As I come......

der tag

[Thuzbekistan]

finally the only troops that I would count as regulars, besides us, are the Thuzbeki Marines

Uhh, Wellsia. Last I checked Thuzbek Marines weren't involved in this fight?

Not yet anyways. Maybe in a later stage but not now

[Thuzbekistan]

As I come......

der tag

You on the map yet?

[Menna Shuli]

So my plan right now is to have the Battle of Pueblo Ignacio be another disaster that leads to victory, but with a twist on the last one. I want Sul to come up with some sort of plan that runs counter to the Admiral's: they go through with the Admiral's plan, but when things start going really bad, Sul's thing goes off and achieves the victory. I'm just not sure what that is. Maybe some sort of single company doing some sort of mission that wins the battle. Any ideas?

EDIT: Maybe a company leaves early and crosses east and then north and manages to cut off the road to Pueblo Ignacio, preventing support from arriving for the defenders in time, and then they double back and manage to pincer the town?

[Wellsia]

Uhh, Wellsia. Last I checked Thuzbek Marines weren't involved in this fight?

Not yet anyways. Maybe in a later stage but not now

finally the only troops that I would count as regulars, besides us, are the Thuzbeki Marines

Uhh, Wellsia. Last I checked Thuzbek Marines weren't involved in this fight?

And I didn’t list them as being there, but Thuzbekistan has dispatched the Central Fleet to San Javier, so Wellsia knows they are an enemy of my enemy, the General was just letting his men know that the only other trained regulars would be the Marines. The battle plan doesn’t include them anywhere.

[Thuzbekistan]

So my plan right now is to have the Battle of Pueblo Ignacio be another disaster that leads to victory, but with a twist on the last one. I want Sul to come up with some sort of plan that runs counter to the Admiral's: they go through with the Admiral's plan, but when things start going really bad, Sul's thing goes off and achieves the victory. I'm just not sure what that is. Maybe some sort of single company doing some sort of mission that wins the battle. Any ideas?

EDIT: Maybe a company leaves early and crosses east and then north and manages to cut off the road to Pueblo Ignacio, preventing support from arriving for the defenders in time, and then they double back and manage to pincer the town?

That would be a good one tbh. You could explain it as the admiral wanting big battles that suck the enemy in so he can kill them while sul wants quick, bloodless victories that allow for smaller engagements that he is sure to win.

[Miklania]

So my plan right now is to have the Battle of Pueblo Ignacio be another disaster that leads to victory, but with a twist on the last one. I want Sul to come up with some sort of plan that runs counter to the Admiral's: they go through with the Admiral's plan, but when things start going really bad, Sul's thing goes off and achieves the victory. I'm just not sure what that is. Maybe some sort of single company doing some sort of mission that wins the battle. Any ideas?

EDIT: Maybe a company leaves early and crosses east and then north and manages to cut off the road to Pueblo Ignacio, preventing support from arriving for the defenders in time, and then they double back and manage to pincer the town?

One possibility, if the Miklanian Army shows up before the attack takes place, is for there to be a big argument over the plan, with Sul and my guy on the one side, and the admiral on the other. Colonel Gavin is the most experienced officer there, but he's outranked by both Sul and the Admiral, and he's a foreigner that just showed up, so his influence will be limited. If the Admiral has de facto control over the Mennan troops, Sul could go behind the Admiral's back and have Gavin employ his plan with Miklanian troops.

[Menna Shuli]

So my plan right now is to have the Battle of Pueblo Ignacio be another disaster that leads to victory, but with a twist on the last one. I want Sul to come up with some sort of plan that runs counter to the Admiral's: they go through with the Admiral's plan, but when things start going really bad, Sul's thing goes off and achieves the victory. I'm just not sure what that is. Maybe some sort of single company doing some sort of mission that wins the battle. Any ideas?

EDIT: Maybe a company leaves early and crosses east and then north and manages to cut off the road to Pueblo Ignacio, preventing support from arriving for the defenders in time, and then they double back and manage to pincer the town?

One possibility, if the Miklanian Army shows up before the attack takes place, is for there to be a big argument over the plan, with Sul and my guy on the one side, and the admiral on the other. Colonel Gavin is the most experienced officer there, but he's outranked by both Sul and the Admiral, and he's a foreigner that just showed up, so his influence will be limited. If the Admiral has de facto control over the Mennan troops, Sul could go behind the Admiral's back and have Gavin employ his plan with Miklanian troops.

My plan was basically to have Sul go behind Shala's back, so this could work.

[Dormill and Stiura]

So my plan right now is to have the Battle of Pueblo Ignacio be another disaster that leads to victory, but with a twist on the last one. I want Sul to come up with some sort of plan that runs counter to the Admiral's: they go through with the Admiral's plan, but when things start going really bad, Sul's thing goes off and achieves the victory. I'm just not sure what that is. Maybe some sort of single company doing some sort of mission that wins the battle. Any ideas?

EDIT: Maybe a company leaves early and crosses east and then north and manages to cut off the road to Pueblo Ignacio, preventing support from arriving for the defenders in time, and then they double back and manage to pincer the town?

One possibility, if the Miklanian Army shows up before the attack takes place, is for there to be a big argument over the plan, with Sul and my guy on the one side, and the admiral on the other. Colonel Gavin is the most experienced officer there, but he's outranked by both Sul and the Admiral, and he's a foreigner that just showed up, so his influence will be limited. If the Admiral has de facto control over the Mennan troops, Sul could go behind the Admiral's back and have Gavin employ his plan with Miklanian troops.

It's probably going to be a situation of too many cooks in the kitchen if I were to bring in Dormill-Stiuraian commanders into this conversation as well, but my next post will have the deployments either begin or are underway.

[Miklania]

One possibility, if the Miklanian Army shows up before the attack takes place, is for there to be a big argument over the plan, with Sul and my guy on the one side, and the admiral on the other. Colonel Gavin is the most experienced officer there, but he's outranked by both Sul and the Admiral, and he's a foreigner that just showed up, so his influence will be limited. If the Admiral has de facto control over the Mennan troops, Sul could go behind the Admiral's back and have Gavin employ his plan with Miklanian troops.

It's probably going to be a situation of too many cooks in the kitchen if I were to bring in Dormill-Stiuraian commanders into this conversation as well, but my next post will have the deployments either begin or are underway.

What are you deploying?

[Dormill and Stiura]

It's probably going to be a situation of too many cooks in the kitchen if I were to bring in Dormill-Stiuraian commanders into this conversation as well, but my next post will have the deployments either begin or are underway.

What are you deploying?

3 Companies of the 17th Airborne Regiment (2 Rifles, 1 Weapons and associated support units), the ships Union, Rangi, Chery, Veaux, Lukas Monet Sr., and Peter Hart will be sent initially.

Then in a few days following the remaining companies of the 17th Airborne, and (on Noro's approval) two AFSBs carrying the 18th Regiment of the 7th Expeditionary Brigade and the necessary support equipment for both them and the Airborne units. I will also be deploying the other half of the 1st Coastal Assault Squadron to Swaneeak Atoll in the event the force being sent needs reinforcements. I've also considered whether or not to additionally send out my SSGN Ranger, but it will probably also join the reinforcing naval force rather than heading out with the Union.