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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:00 pm

Is there an issue that reverses the "no zoos" policy yet? If not I can write something. I just want my zoos back :(
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:23 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:In light of New South Wales' new trains without reversable seats, would an issue about reversable train seats be an interesting enough topic to write about?
Okay, hold up. Before we address whether this is an important enough concern for the government to address, what are reversible seats and why should anyone, let alone the government, care about them?

What are reversable train seats?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3QRZMJkq-Po
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USS Monitor
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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:01 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:
Okay, hold up. Before we address whether this is an important enough concern for the government to address, what are reversible seats and why should anyone, let alone the government, care about them?

What are reversable train seats?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3QRZMJkq-Po
Why should the government care? If the govt. owns the trains, they decide which seats go in them. I'll post a list of articles later


I think it's still a fair question how many NS players will care.

Trott, I'll just take your post as one vote for players not giving a shit about reversible train seats.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:50 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Hmm... okay. How about the minister of transport wants to bring in non-reversable seats on the new trains, and the people, who are used to reversable seats, protest?


I think you're just saying the same thing over and over. And it's "reversible" by the way.

By context, I mean why is the government involved, and why is it an interesting dilemma? Why would the presence or absence of reversible seats have any importance or interest?

You may as well be asking the government to intervene because people are complaining that the local cinema has dropped its toffee popcorn line. These sorts of issues just aren't issues.
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The Rhein States
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Postby The Rhein States » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:08 am

Hello,

I posted this draft a while ago but I never received any replies with advise. Is it good or bad? Should some parts be scrapped and revised? Thank you.

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:22 am

The Rhein States wrote:Hello,

I posted this draft a while ago but I never received any replies with advise. Is it good or bad? Should some parts be scrapped and revised? Thank you.


Will take a look.
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Revolutionary Atlantica
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Postby Revolutionary Atlantica » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:35 am

Kurnugia wrote:Is there an issue about racial profiling? I haven't seen it mentioned once.

I'm pretty sure there's multiple issues about bigtopians being profiled and generally discriminated against and so on.

Also, yeah, the reversible seats thing sounds like a "slow news day" kind of controversy.

Anyways, can anyone give me some insight on my issue? Apologies if this isn't the right forum for it but I don't know where else I should be looking heh.

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The Free Joy State wrote:Backstage, the stats are actually different to one of the "your brother" issues. There is nothing that says that speakers will not paint their opinions in the most flattering light.

Besides-which, referenda being ignored is more of a side issue. The ultimate indication of whether you have democracy in NS is whether the voters vote for candidates (the description of autocracy says: "The nation does not hold democratic elections"), which they do not here.

And you can cancel your Autocracy policy in the future. The are many options to reinstate democracy; ten issues, one of the higher rates for reversals in the game. One will come along at some point.

Okay... I still think it's a bit obtuse but I apologize for being tetchy, I got back to democracy within 10 issues anyway. I guess it just means I can't to build back up to 5%.

Anyway, I thought I better ask about this issue, since I came unstuck last time, it's in "A Debatable Question", response being;


"“All this debating is giving me a headache,” complains Ksenya Christmas, your Minister of Daft Ideas. “Imagine all the time people would save if they didn’t spend the day listening to arguments about tweaking the tax code or giving benefits to old people.” She motions over to a window overlooking a lone activist spray-painting ‘MAFTAOAL FTW’ across New London’s main square. “I have an idea, what if we just stopped debating altogether? No meddling politicians, at all. Let the voters decide for themselves.”

Is this closer to what I had in mind?

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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:47 am

Revolutionary Atlantica wrote:Also, yeah, the reversible seats thing sounds like a "slow news day" kind of controversy.
I've been on various trains and other forms of public transport, and I don't recall having ever seen reversible seats. This doesn't appear to have ever been a problem.

Revolutionary Atlantica wrote:Anyways, can anyone give me some insight on my issue? Apologies if this isn't the right forum for it but I don't know where else I should be looking heh.
Try here.

In the particular case of the option you quoted, no. That isn't giving voters the power to decide more things, it's just making them decide the things they already can decide "for themselves", with less information to go on.

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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:24 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Revolutionary Atlantica wrote:Also, yeah, the reversible seats thing sounds like a "slow news day" kind of controversy.
I've been on various trains and other forms of public transport, and I don't recall having ever seen reversible seats. This doesn't appear to have ever been a problem.

I've seen them on a few trains here in the UK. They're useful when the layout of rail lines means that carriages get sent on the opposite heading without getting turned around (for example, when a train that can be driven from both ends enters & then leaves a terminus, along the same line, without being turned) and some passengers want to continue facing forwards.
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Jutsa
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:50 pm

In hindsight, I should probably be posting here more often some of my ideas and whether they'd be worth pursuing,
seeing as that's perhaps the biggest reason for my draft abandonment rate. :P

Idea #1: Issue about an abortion during labor and whether it still counts as abortion
1) Sure!
2) Not really, there must be a cutoff point and it should be enforced better
3) ABORTION BAD! BAN BOO!
4) Hey y'know, parents do stuff for their kids, why not let them take place after birth too? (fun)

^ Definitely a brutal topic that I myself am probably not qualified for, but I think it could be a worthwhile issue.
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Idea #2: Something involving Jussie Smollett and other similar hate crime hoaxes
1) It was spreading hate crime awareness!
2) This person reported a fake crime and should be charged for it!
3) The real crime was they were so bad at it. Lets turn this around and say the police really falsified the evidence. That'll really promote equality!
:rofl:

Thoughts on these two ideas?
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:35 pm

Jutsa wrote:Idea #1: Issue about an abortion during labor and whether it still counts as abortion
I've been contemplating an issue about something similar (but not quite as extreme), but I've gotten stuck on the fact that the basic pro- and anti-abortion arguments have been rehashed so much that it's hard to present them in a way that isn't just saying "yeah that".

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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:30 am

I believe that the name in 446 would be better as "Mike Ron At-ion", rather than "Mike Ronation". The former sounds more like an actual name. Mr M.R. Ation
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:55 am

It would also ruin the joke, which is that the name sounds like "Micronation".
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:07 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:It would also ruin the joke, which is that the name sounds like "Micronation".

True
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:08 am

Do you think that this would make a good issue desc

You sit on the toilet, about to take your nightly dump. Just you, your smart phone, and approx. 500 camera-bearing tourists with “all access” passes of your residency

Option 1- These passes go to far
Option 2- "We need transperancy" searching through your underwear draw
Option 3- Crazy third option
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:12 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Do you think that this would make a good issue desc

You sit on the toilet, about to take your nightly dump. Just you, your smart phone, and approx. 500 camera-bearing tourists with “all access” passes of your residency


I see what you're getting at, but I don't think it would work that way.

Instead maybe you should present it asking the question if you want tourists to be able to visit your residency, and then save something like this as the punchline if the players choose yes. Though, y'know, presented in a less puerile way.
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USS Monitor
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:00 am

We already have some issues about @@LEADER@@'s privacy. Maybe you could do a follow-up to one of them.

On an unrelated topic: Could someone remind me which NPC is the vaguely German one? Marche Noire? I want to do a German-themed issue riffing on people that attach Nazi connotations to totally innocent bits of German language and culture.
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:52 am

It would also ruin the joke, which is that the name sounds like "Micronation".
I feel so ashamed that I never noticed this.

Also, any thoughts on that second idea of mine? :P

On an unrelated topic: Could someone remind me which NPC is the vaguely German one? Marche Noire?

Probably.

I could also totally see this having Bigtopia [Butcher of Bigtopia], and then of course Brasilistan...
none of which are particularly German, but are probably the most likely candidates.

The closest to Germany is probably Gallopavia, and honestly, a gladiolas-selling representation of the Netherlands doesn't work as well. :P
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:23 pm

Jutsa wrote:
It would also ruin the joke, which is that the name sounds like "Micronation".
I feel so ashamed that I never noticed this.

Also, any thoughts on that second idea of mine? :P

On an unrelated topic: Could someone remind me which NPC is the vaguely German one? Marche Noire?

Probably.

I could also totally see this having Bigtopia [Butcher of Bigtopia], and then of course Brasilistan...
none of which are particularly German, but are probably the most likely candidates.

The closest to Germany is probably Gallopavia, and honestly, a gladiolas-selling representation of the Netherlands doesn't work as well. :P


Bigtopia and Brasilistan don't work because I really need German culture, not just a history of genocide.
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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:31 pm

Which aspect of German culture?

Oh, were you talking about this draft?
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Postby Pogaria » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:50 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Jutsa wrote: I feel so ashamed that I never noticed this.

Also, any thoughts on that second idea of mine? :P


Probably.

I could also totally see this having Bigtopia [Butcher of Bigtopia], and then of course Brasilistan...
none of which are particularly German, but are probably the most likely candidates.

The closest to Germany is probably Gallopavia, and honestly, a gladiolas-selling representation of the Netherlands doesn't work as well. :P


Bigtopia and Brasilistan don't work because I really need German culture, not just a history of genocide.

I think Smalltopia is as close as it gets. Of course, feel free to create a new NPC.
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:32 am

USS Monitor wrote:We already have some issues about @@LEADER@@'s privacy. Maybe you could do a follow-up to one of them.

On an unrelated topic: Could someone remind me which NPC is the vaguely German one? Marche Noire? I want to do a German-themed issue riffing on people that attach Nazi connotations to totally innocent bits of German language and culture.

German NPC=Smalltopia
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:14 am

Jutsa wrote:The closest to Germany is probably Gallopavia, and honestly, a gladiolas-selling representation of the Netherlands doesn't work as well. :P

Gallopavia is supposed to be [more or less] Turkey.
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Postby Kurnugia » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:52 am

Would a social media ban make a good premise for a freedom of speech issue.

Like: A popular conspiracy theorist has been banned from all social media. He claims his right to expression has been violated. He wants the government to intervene and guarantee his right to be on those platforms.
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:02 am

Kurnugia wrote:Would a social media ban make a good premise for a freedom of speech issue.

Like: A popular conspiracy theorist has been banned from all social media. He claims his right to expression has been violated. He wants the government to intervene and guarantee his right to be on those platforms.
That sounds familiar.

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