[DEFEATED] Condemn Antifa

[Tinhampton]

OK, how in the good name of Mike Gatting did this get to vote? AGAINST due to lack of sourcing for claims made in the resolution.

[Lord Dominator]

It’s time to end them once and far all.

Which this... proposal... won't and can't do even if it had any possibility of passing in any form.

[State of Gorman]

Not supporting materials whatsoever for claims. Cannot support.

[Luziyca]

...this resolution is so empty that even if I were to believe that Antifa were "alt-left," I cannot possibly support it. As I don't buy into the claims that Antifa is alt-left, I have to vote against, regardless of whether it is better written or not.

[Ragnaria]

No, this is just plain lies and falsehoods.

Vote against without any doubts at all.

[Grug Island]

GRUG BASH FASH

[Frances Francis the First of France]

If the author could please give a list of the "peaceful regions" that have been invaded since no list was ever provided

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

OK, how in the good name of Mike Gatting did this get to vote? AGAINST due to lack of sourcing for claims made in the resolution.

An SC equivalent of the Ball of the Century?

[Tinhampton]

OK, how in the good name of Mike Gatting did this get to vote? AGAINST due to lack of sourcing for claims made in the resolution.

An SC equivalent of the Ball of the Century?

Not quite, the bloke that proposed this doesn't even have ten million population let alone ten years of experience

[Blood Wine]

How the hell did this dreck get past voting? even the operative clause has an spelling error, jesus christ

[Ceolophysia]

An SC equivalent of the Ball of the Century?

Not quite, the bloke that proposed this doesn't even have ten million population let alone ten years of experience

They apparently only have a few days experience, since it looks like they created their nation on February 15.

[Skaveria]

So this proposal is so poorly written that it's comical.

The author's nation is extremely new...

AND they're nation resides in a literal NAZI region...

Not to sound conspiratorial... But it seems like this was written by a left-wing shell nation just to make right-wingers look bad.

[Slackertown]

As a proud Corrupt Dictatorship I vote AGAINST this poorly written and insulting proposal. There is no actual sustenance here and it's insulting to all that it is even being considered to be enacted.

[The Reddington States]

I want to support this proposal, as the co-founder of Northern Redlands, Antifa added our region to the Civil Defence Siren in a list of legitimately fascist regions, with evidence being embassies, tags, and a few comments taken completely out of context. Ninety percent of the posts were done by one person, The Confederate Territory, who was unfortunately the other co-founder. Even worse, members of Northern Redlands / Redlandia are still being generalized as Nazis.

However, this proposal needs more detail on how Antifa is raiding innocent regions.

"NOTING how among the regions that Antifa has invaded, many were peaceful and innocent.
ENRAGED by the fact that Antifa invades peaceful regions and complains when others (of a different ideology) do the same."

The wording is pretty redundant, as one could see.

I'd really proofread the entire proposal because while I agree with you, this is a poorly written proposal.

[The Sect Meces]

Gonna have to vote against due to the lack of evidence provided.

In a sense I guess there's some irony in accusing a region called Antifa of doing something horrible without actual evidence to back it up but that's besides the point.

AGAINST

[Mockia]

SUPPORT, because I fear for the future of free speech on this site.

[Tinhampton]

I want to support this proposal, as the co-founder of Northern Redlands, Antifa added our region to the Civil Defence Siren

No, a coalition of all five feeders did, none of which are Antifa members. "Antifa" was to your placement on the Civil Defence Siren what Arthur Wellesley was to the bailout of Lloyds Banking Group.

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SUPPORT, because I fear for the future of free speech on this site.

You have no "free speech" on NationStates, only Max-approved speech. If He wants to ban the use of the letter "F" on this website effective tomorrow, then he can

On a more serious note, elaborate on NS Antifa's suppression of free speech.

[Dreadton]

Our nation will be voting against this Condemnation, as there is not a single bit of supporting evidence in this resolution. It is an extremely poorly written piece, whos likely purpose is to generate outrage at being oppressed by "liberal factions." If the "author" of the resolution would modify it to include supporting facts and events that a nation can review and make an informed decision on the matter, we will reconsider our position then.

[The Reddington States]

No, a coalition of all five feeders did, none of which are Antifa members. "Antifa" was to your placement on the Civil Defence Siren what Arthur Wellesley was to the bailout of Lloyds Banking Group.

Regardless, putting Redlandia in the CDS list is wrong. However, since that's not what this forum is specifically for, I won't go any further than here.

[Rat Piss]

SUPPORT, because I fear for the future of free speech on this site.

Ah, so to save free speech you'll be running to mommy to stop the naughty people from saying rude things?

Too many here pretend to care about free speech when it has to do with expressing bigoted world views, only to become utter hypocrisy when someone with conflicting opinions is the tiniest bit too loud for their liking.

[Furry Things]

Against. This is hardly a proposal, wasn't drafted, no input was taken or acted upon, and there's no proof of anything alleged.

[Kavagrad]

SUPPORT, because I fear for the future of free speech on this site.

Who is trying to stop you from speaking? When have NS Antifa ever tried to stop you, or anyone, from speaking? All the fascists who’s regions have been invaded, can still speak, can they not?

Nazis still bitter that NS is a community that isn’t willing to put up with their toxic shit.

[Christian Confederation]

SUPPORT, because I fear for the future of free speech on this site.

Who is trying to stop you from speaking? When have NS Antifa ever tried to stop you, or anyone, from speaking? All the fascists who’s regions have been invaded, can still speak, can they not?

Nazis still bitter that NS is a community that isn’t willing to put up with their toxic shit.

I think the resolution is due to antifa being agressive to regions for embassys they call facist.

[The Tri State Area and Maine]

I'd definitely support a better written version, but this is too poorly written.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I think the resolution is due to antifa being agressive to regions for embassys they call facist.

They literally just go after regions that are obviously far-right. All the ‘Nazi’ and ‘Fascist’ labeled regions keep on getting raided. There’s no good place for them to hide. Irl, I’m against antifa, but the nationstates antifa has done more good than bad. Unlike the real life ones, they effectively stop far-right views from spreading while not harming anyone.