Tennessee to Attempt to Ban Same Sex Marriage

[San Lumen]

What do you mean by somewhat agree? Do you mean you agree with the concept or what?

I believe that if this should be passed, it should only apply to those whose religion forbids homosexual acts. Others whose religion or lack thereof doesn't forbid homosexuality can do it.

Firstly clergy cannot be forced to be preform same sex marriages. They have a legal
Right to refuse.

A county or city clerk is a government employee they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others

[Internationalist Bastard]

A Republican SCOTUS can revoke the previous ruling, although I doubt until Roberts is replaced they will. More importantly, if the GOP had any balls, they could do an end run around the issue by limiting what SCOTUS can review; the mandate of the Court can be controlled by Congressional legislation, and the GOP could, in theory, pass legislation preventing the Court from reviewing cases of this nature. That they never have speaks volumes about their convictions on a personal level.

What is it with some right wingers and wanting to oppress minorities?

It’s fun

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yeah that last sentence was something I was thinking about, too. But:
1: Those badges weren't specifically what I was thinking about.
2: My intent is different.

Intent and practice are not always aligned. Anything with labeling is usually a bad idea.

If you need laws like banning same sex marriage.....your faith is rather weak.

The last sentence doesn't even make sense. Some religions have laws go be enforced, doesn't make them weak. Religions laws don't show weakness, just like laws in general don't show weakness of a nation.

[The Black Forrest]

Intent and practice are not always aligned. Anything with labeling is usually a bad idea.

If you need laws like banning same sex marriage.....your faith is rather weak.

The last sentence doesn't even make sense. Some religions have laws go be enforced, doesn't make them weak. Religions laws don't show weakness, just like laws in general don't show weakness of a nation.

Actually it makes complete sense. Religion is faith based. Needing the laws of man to have people follow it is a sign of weakness.......or intolerance.

Luckily, I don't have to worry as our laws keep the want of a theocracy in check.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

What is it with some right wingers and wanting to oppress minorities?

It’s fun

Maybe if the oppressor has a form of psychopathy or something.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yes

In spite of the many times we’ve explained the plethora of freedom problems that arise even in your brand of it?

Like?

I believe that if this should be passed, it should only apply to those whose religion forbids homosexual acts. Others whose religion or lack thereof doesn't forbid homosexuality can do it.

Firstly clergy cannot be forced to be preform same sex marriages. They have a legal
Right to refuse.

I like that.

A county or city clerk is a government employee they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Religion is faith based.

Most religions have more than faith to them.

Needing the laws of man to have people follow it is a sign of weakness.......or intolerance.

To me it shows order.

[Internationalist Bastard]

In spite of the many times we’ve explained the plethora of freedom problems that arise even in your brand of it?

Like?

Firstly clergy cannot be forced to be preform same sex marriages. They have a legal
Right to refuse.

I like that.

A county or city clerk is a government employee they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Literally read the plethora of conversations we’ve had on the subject

[The Black Forrest]

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Don't you guys have rules about spreading lies?

Her job doesn't involve Religious laws. It's fulling the process of a legal document.

She tried force her religious views on others and was rightfully terminated.

[New haven america]

They can’t do anything. Why? Because SCOTUS already ruled that marriage equality is legal so the bill would be automatically null and void

They said the same thing about abortion and yet we're still fucking fighting over that and it's been either illegalized or heavily overregulated to the point of uselessness in ~1/2 of the country.

[New haven america]

I find it funny that the guy trying to ban gay marriage has the last name of Sexton.

There's my sophomoric humor at work. Laugh!

[San Lumen]

In spite of the many times we’ve explained the plethora of freedom problems that arise even in your brand of it?

Like?

Firstly clergy cannot be forced to be preform same sex marriages. They have a legal
Right to refuse.

I like that.

A county or city clerk is a government employee they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Clergy have always had that right. In no state can they be forced to preform a marriage

A county or city clerk works for all. They have no right no pick
And choose who they will apply the law too. If your not going to apply it equally then resign

[El-Amin Caliphate]

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Don't you guys have rules about spreading lies?

Her job doesn't involve Religious laws. It's fulling the process of a legal document.

She tried force her religious views on others and was rightfully terminated.

What are you talking about? I'm talking about how my proposal would work.

[The Black Forrest]

Religion is faith based.

Most religions have more than faith to them.

Correct. The tend to exemplify what is wrong with Religion.

Needing the laws of man to have people follow it is a sign of weakness.......or intolerance.

To me it shows order.

Your problems with your faith are not my problem. You have to sort that out yourself.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Like?

I like that.

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Clergy have always had that right. In no state can they be forced to preform a marriage

A county or city clerk works for all. They have no right no pick
And choose who they will apply the law too. If your not going to apply it equally then resign

In case you didn't know I'm not taking about the law in its present form.

[Andsed]

In spite of the many times we’ve explained the plethora of freedom problems that arise even in your brand of it?

Like?

Firstly clergy cannot be forced to be preform same sex marriages. They have a legal
Right to refuse.

I like that.

A county or city clerk is a government employee they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others

They aren't. They are enforcing religious law on those whose religion or lack thereof forbids or allows it. They aren't enforcing their own religion on people.

Because quite frankly the government has no right to push any religious laws on someone even if they are of that religion. If someone wishes to follow parts of their religion and ignore other parts that is their choice and the government has no place in trying to change that.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Your problems with your faith

I don't have any problems with Al-Islam.

[San Lumen]

Clergy have always had that right. In no state can they be forced to preform a marriage

A county or city clerk works for all. They have no right no pick
And choose who they will apply the law too. If your not going to apply it equally then resign

In case you didn't know I'm not taking about the law in its present form.

The law your proposing sounds blantenty unconstitutional

[El-Amin Caliphate]

In case you didn't know I'm not taking about the law in its present form.

The law your proposing sounds blantenty unconstitutional

Idc

[Internationalist Bastard]

Sigh
Amun’s ideal form of government is a form of theocracy for each religion. The idea is that religious freedom would be preserved while allowing theocracy to exist
For clarification to those who haven’t discussed this with him prior

[The Black Forrest]

Your problems with your faith

I don't have any problems with Al-Islam.

Sure you do if you need the laws of man to bend to it.

Al-Islam is not without fault. I know an ex Muslim who had to flee his country because some practitioners of Al-Islam were coming to kill him in the middle of the night. He is gay.

[Andsed]

The law your proposing sounds blantenty unconstitutional

Idc

You should. Your religion does not trump peoples rights to get married and the government should not be forcing people to follow any part of their religion if they don’t want to follow that part.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

The Supreme Court is the highest judicial authority in the US; you can't go around it. That's blatantly illegal.

[San Lumen]

The law your proposing sounds blantenty unconstitutional

Idc

The constitution fotbids establishing a religion or restricting the free exercise therof. It’s in the first amendment

Riddle me this what do you think of same sex couples adopting? In some cases it’s the only family they have ever known. A friend of mine was raised by two men

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Sigh
Amun’s ideal form of government is a form of theocracy for each religion. The idea is that religious freedom would be preserved while allowing theocracy to exist
For clarification to those who haven’t discussed this with him prior

For more info, please read this.