by Trumptonium1 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:46 am
by Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:49 am
by Saiwania » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:52 am
by Christ Triumphant » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:00 am
by Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:02 am
Christ Triumphant wrote:Denmark runs "sexy" advertisements offering subsidized vacations for couples to romantic places (e.g. Paris) for the explicit purpose that they have will be having sex there and hopefully getting pregnant.
by Christ Triumphant » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:07 am
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:I don’t exactly need a romantic vacation to bonk my theoretical female partner into pregnancy.
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:10 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:The incentives will not be available for non-Hungarian citizens, and Hungary also plans to make the application process for naturalisation more stringent so that immigrants do not abuse the system.
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:11 am
Saiwania wrote:This is to be applauded in my view, but I suspect that it could be even more effective if abortion were to be made illegal and all if not more contraceptives were banished from the country on a temporary basis.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:12 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:What is your opinion, OP?Trumptonium1 wrote:The incentives will not be available for non-Hungarian citizens, and Hungary also plans to make the application process for naturalisation more stringent so that immigrants do not abuse the system.
A clear and open violation of European Union law, which will lead to a fine payed by holding back some of the 4 billion euros Hungary receives every year.
by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:14 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Saiwania wrote:This is to be applauded in my view, but I suspect that it could be even more effective if abortion were to be made illegal and all if not more contraceptives were banished from the country on a temporary basis.
Which would only lead to the rich travelling to other countries to have an abortion or get long-term birth control, while the poor parts of the population have to have unwanted children which they cannot care for.
by Valrifell » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:17 am
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:What is your opinion, OP?
A clear and open violation of European Union law, which will lead to a fine payed by holding back some of the 4 billion euros Hungary receives every year.
That is of course implying that the Visegrad Four still remotely listens to the EU anyways.
by The New California Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:21 am
Saiwania wrote:This is to be applauded in my view, but I suspect that it could be even more effective if abortion were to be made illegal and all if not more contraceptives were banished from the country on a temporary basis.
by Dumb Ideologies » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:23 am
by Saiwania » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:25 am
The New California Republic wrote:Sounds like an excellent way to get a bunch of dumped babies, and the adult populace riddled with an STD or five.
by The New California Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:29 am
Saiwania wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Sounds like an excellent way to get a bunch of dumped babies, and the adult populace riddled with an STD or five.
Once there are enough, conditions can be returned to normal. I view it as operating like a reverse of China's One Child policy. The state should be micromanaging such matters anyway.
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:33 am
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:What is your opinion, OP?
A clear and open violation of European Union law, which will lead to a fine payed by holding back some of the 4 billion euros Hungary receives every year.
That is of course implying that the Visegrad Four still remotely listens to the EU anyways.
by El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:39 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:The incentives will not be available for non-Hungarian citizens
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:43 am
by El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:45 am
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by Ifreann » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:50 am
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:A state denying services to non-citizens and prioritizing citizens should not be considered discrimination.
True, you're right.
But still, isn't Hungary still part of the EU? And aren't all citizens of a European country technically citizens of the EU, hence citizens of every EU country?
by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:55 am
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:A state denying services to non-citizens and prioritizing citizens should not be considered discrimination.
True, you're right.
But still, isn't Hungary still part of the EU? And aren't all citizens of a European country technically citizens of the EU, hence citizens of every EU country?
by The New California Republic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:57 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:06 am
by Kowani » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:11 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Isn't discrimination illegal in the EU? And Hungary?
This kind of discrimination is illegal under EU law, yes. While a citizen of an EU nation is automatically a citizen of the EU, that does not make that citizen a citizen of all other member states. However, the EU demands that welfare given to citizens must be given to all permanent residents from other EU countries, as long as they have lived in that nation for a certain amount of time. So, families which have resided in Hungary for quite some time (longer than two years, I believe) must be given the same incentives as citizens.
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