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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:14 am

Vassenor wrote:So, good news. I passed my test.

Tomorrow I need to actually sort out the form for my license.

Yay! Welcome to the road.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:30 am

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No, he died in it, Poor judgment and excessive speed killed him.

Poor judgment and excessive speed on the part of the other driver maybe. One of the investigating officers estimated that Dean was only doing about 55 at the time of impact.


Well even if the other car was only going 45, head on that is still 100mph.


Plus in a light convertible with no roll bar, against the normal 50s massive boats of rolled steel, you are pretty screwed.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:32 am

Vassenor wrote:So, good news. I passed my test.

Tomorrow I need to actually sort out the form for my license.


Congratulations.
Now you get to get out on your own on the road.
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Postby Elwher » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:41 pm

Vassenor wrote:So, good news. I passed my test.

Tomorrow I need to actually sort out the form for my license.


Congrats. Welcome to the world of car payments, repair bills, and insurance premiums. 8)
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:00 am

I slept on this, but the Blazer is back for some reason.
Still, the 2019 Chevrolet Blazer deserves to be judged on its own merits—I say this as one of the die-hards—and thankfully, it (mostly) delivers. Were it named literally anything else, we could skip the whole heritage vs. sales debate and just talk turkey. In that spirit, the new Blazer is fine crossover with surprisingly sharp handling and a style all its own. In fact, I'd venture to say it delivers the most car-like ride of any crossover in its class.

That focus is befitting of its task. "This is not about climbing the cinderblock mountain," lead engineer Larry Mihalko told me. "What we've done is try to maximize on-pavement handling." Ultimately, he says, the 2019 Blazer is a vision of what might one day replace the sports sedan, a withering space that Chevy abandoned following the death of the SS in 2017. No one is saying the Blazer was built to set any lap times. But just how far did GM go with this particular mission?

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Postby NeoOasis » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:46 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I slept on this, but...

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Blazer being back is pretty old news. Supposedly it'll fit in between the whatever is smaller and larger in GM's product stack. The Americans are discovering the joys of slicing the pie increasingly thin by making up new catagories. I expect the Blazer will be a top seller in the mid-size, but not that big, or small crossover segment.

Honestly it's the best looking Chevy out right now... better looking than the Camaro redesign or the atrocious pickup thing they did.

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Postby Elwher » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:45 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:I slept on this, but the Blazer is back for some reason.
Still, the 2019 Chevrolet Blazer deserves to be judged on its own merits—I say this as one of the die-hards—and thankfully, it (mostly) delivers. Were it named literally anything else, we could skip the whole heritage vs. sales debate and just talk turkey. In that spirit, the new Blazer is fine crossover with surprisingly sharp handling and a style all its own. In fact, I'd venture to say it delivers the most car-like ride of any crossover in its class.

That focus is befitting of its task. "This is not about climbing the cinderblock mountain," lead engineer Larry Mihalko told me. "What we've done is try to maximize on-pavement handling." Ultimately, he says, the 2019 Blazer is a vision of what might one day replace the sports sedan, a withering space that Chevy abandoned following the death of the SS in 2017. No one is saying the Blazer was built to set any lap times. But just how far did GM go with this particular mission?

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Thank you for hiding the image. That is another example of the banality of too much of the modern car market, and I'm glad not to see it every time I view the thread.
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:35 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:I slept on this, but the Blazer is back for some reason.
Still, the 2019 Chevrolet Blazer deserves to be judged on its own merits—I say this as one of the die-hards—and thankfully, it (mostly) delivers. Were it named literally anything else, we could skip the whole heritage vs. sales debate and just talk turkey. In that spirit, the new Blazer is fine crossover with surprisingly sharp handling and a style all its own. In fact, I'd venture to say it delivers the most car-like ride of any crossover in its class.

That focus is befitting of its task. "This is not about climbing the cinderblock mountain," lead engineer Larry Mihalko told me. "What we've done is try to maximize on-pavement handling." Ultimately, he says, the 2019 Blazer is a vision of what might one day replace the sports sedan, a withering space that Chevy abandoned following the death of the SS in 2017. No one is saying the Blazer was built to set any lap times. But just how far did GM go with this particular mission?

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"IT'S NOT A REAL BLAZER!11"

Do Chevy guys only remember the K5, and not S10 Blazer? Because it's like that.

Also, no way in hell SUVs can replace sport sedans, if you lower them enough though, but that's really a hatchback and not a stanced blobbity blob.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:38 am

Auzkhia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I slept on this, but the Blazer is back for some reason.

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"IT'S NOT A REAL BLAZER!11"

Do Chevy guys only remember the K5, and not S10 Blazer? Because it's like that.

Also, no way in hell SUVs can replace sport sedans, if you lower them enough though, but that's really a hatchback and not a stanced blobbity blob.

He mentions the S-10 baby Blazer as well, I just didn't think I needed to quote the whole article since most of you probably already knew about this anyway.

I think all they care about is sales numbers, it replaces the sports sedan in sales numbers. Honestly, no one gives a shit about purists, they can't buy enough cars to matter.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:40 am

Well I have precisely no clue how the vehicle tax brackets in this country work. Bleh.
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:41 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:"IT'S NOT A REAL BLAZER!11"

Do Chevy guys only remember the K5, and not S10 Blazer? Because it's like that.

Also, no way in hell SUVs can replace sport sedans, if you lower them enough though, but that's really a hatchback and not a stanced blobbity blob.

He mentions the S-10 baby Blazer as well, I just didn't think I needed to quote the whole article since most of you probably already knew about this anyway.

I think all they care about is sales numbers, it replaces the sports sedan in sales numbers. Honestly, no one gives a shit about purists, they can't buy enough cars to matter.

Younger people do buy actual cars and sedans, however not new.

The average new car buyer in the US is 54. According to Carmax, a used car sales chain, the average sedan buyer is 37 years old. SUVs and Trucks, the average buyer is in their mid 40s. Gen-X, not a baby boomer, but still.

Boomers are buying new, millennials can't afford to buy new. That's the US car market.

There is demand, but it's not registering where it matters in the industry.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:43 am

Auzkhia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:He mentions the S-10 baby Blazer as well, I just didn't think I needed to quote the whole article since most of you probably already knew about this anyway.

I think all they care about is sales numbers, it replaces the sports sedan in sales numbers. Honestly, no one gives a shit about purists, they can't buy enough cars to matter.

Younger people do buy actual cars and sedans, however not new.

The average new car buyer in the US is 54. According to Carmax, a used car sales chain, the average sedan buyer is 37 years old. SUVs and Trucks, the average buyer is in their mid 40s. Gen-X, not a baby boomer, but still.

Boomers are buying new, millennials can't afford to buy new. That's the US car market.

There is demand, but it's not registering where it matters in the industry.

Well, that's part of a larger problem in general where the younger generation is being priced out of fucking everything and instead of addressing the mess they made the older generation is blaming it on fucking avocado toast. But that's another thread.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:28 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I slept on this, but the Blazer is back for some reason.


"IT'S NOT A REAL BLAZER!11"

Do Chevy guys only remember the K5, and not S10 Blazer? Because it's like that.

Also, no way in hell SUVs can replace sport sedans, if you lower them enough though, but that's really a hatchback and not a stanced blobbity blob.

It's not really the same, we still had the 2-door Tahoe taking the K5's place, plus the S-10 Blazer was at least built on a truck platform.
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Postby Auzkhia » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:10 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Younger people do buy actual cars and sedans, however not new.

The average new car buyer in the US is 54. According to Carmax, a used car sales chain, the average sedan buyer is 37 years old. SUVs and Trucks, the average buyer is in their mid 40s. Gen-X, not a baby boomer, but still.

Boomers are buying new, millennials can't afford to buy new. That's the US car market.

There is demand, but it's not registering where it matters in the industry.

Well, that's part of a larger problem in general where the younger generation is being priced out of fucking everything and instead of addressing the mess they made the older generation is blaming it on fucking avocado toast. But that's another thread.

Millennials aren't killing the car industry, some may don't want cars at all, and that's fine, but even those who do want or need or like cars, can't buy new and I think that has serious effects on the automotive industry.

How demand be met with supply if the supply can't see that demand.

Car culture will carry on and evolve as always, but there's always been an intersection with economics.

I think some enthusiasts never buy new, not because they can't afford to, but because they got convinced that it is a scam, because of depreciation. Though with buying new, you can get a warranty and even peace of mind.

I don't like working on cars, but I am willing to do so if needed.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:14 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Younger people do buy actual cars and sedans, however not new.

The average new car buyer in the US is 54. According to Carmax, a used car sales chain, the average sedan buyer is 37 years old. SUVs and Trucks, the average buyer is in their mid 40s. Gen-X, not a baby boomer, but still.

Boomers are buying new, millennials can't afford to buy new. That's the US car market.

There is demand, but it's not registering where it matters in the industry.

Well, that's part of a larger problem in general where the younger generation is being priced out of fucking everything and instead of addressing the mess they made the older generation is blaming it on fucking avocado toast. But that's another thread.

Breaking news: young people don't earn a lot of money!

If you wanna get rich, rather wait. The average US millionaire becomes one at nearly 60 years old.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:33 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, that's part of a larger problem in general where the younger generation is being priced out of fucking everything and instead of addressing the mess they made the older generation is blaming it on fucking avocado toast. But that's another thread.

Breaking news: young people don't earn a lot of money!

If you wanna get rich, rather wait. The average US millionaire becomes one at nearly 60 years old.

Did you just equate being a millionaire with being able to buy a new car?
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Postby Caldreania » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:30 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, that's part of a larger problem in general where the younger generation is being priced out of fucking everything and instead of addressing the mess they made the older generation is blaming it on fucking avocado toast. But that's another thread.

Breaking news: young people don't earn a lot of money!

If you wanna get rich, rather wait. The average US millionaire becomes one at nearly 60 years old.


Where did you get that stat from? For all I know, the average US millionaire is 46 years old. The 57 year mark was from a survey published in 1990, 29 years ago, when there were only close to 4 million millionaire households, compared to 15 million now.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Breaking news: young people don't earn a lot of money!

If you wanna get rich, rather wait. The average US millionaire becomes one at nearly 60 years old.

Did you just equate being a millionaire with being able to buy a new car?

I equate the statistic with the idea of affluence being something you work for.

Boomers have the most money because they've had the time to get it.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:16 am

Caldreania wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Breaking news: young people don't earn a lot of money!

If you wanna get rich, rather wait. The average US millionaire becomes one at nearly 60 years old.


Where did you get that stat from? For all I know, the average US millionaire is 46 years old. The 57 year mark was from a survey published in 1990, 29 years ago, when there were only close to 4 million millionaire households, compared to 15 million now.

Another backing study:
https://spectrem.com/Content/Income-Hig ... Group.aspx

Only one millionaire in twenty is below 45.
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I like my current car which is a 2015 Volkswagen Jetta that I got from my mother after my 17th birthday. And its still in good condition I just love VWs for some reason.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:20 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Did you just equate being a millionaire with being able to buy a new car?

I equate the statistic with the idea of affluence being something you work for.

Boomers have the most money because they've had the time to get it.

That’s...really not the issue, dude.
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Where did you get that stat from? For all I know, the average US millionaire is 46 years old. The 57 year mark was from a survey published in 1990, 29 years ago, when there were only close to 4 million millionaire households, compared to 15 million now.

Another backing study:
https://spectrem.com/Content/Income-Hig ... Group.aspx

Only one millionaire in twenty is below 45.

Once again, dude, you’re the only one bringing up being a millionaire. We were talking about being able to buy a new car before reaching fucking retirement age. Quit telling people to eat cake.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:Another backing study:
https://spectrem.com/Content/Income-Hig ... Group.aspx

Only one millionaire in twenty is below 45.

Once again, dude, you’re the only one bringing up being a millionaire. We were talking about being able to buy a new car before reaching fucking retirement age. Quit telling people to eat cake.[/quote]
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:16 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Once again, dude, you’re the only one bringing up being a millionaire. We were talking about being able to buy a new car before reaching fucking retirement age. Quit telling people to eat cake.

If you have a job with enough value, you can do it.

If you are young and have problems with not having much money, that's called "just being young".

What you're doing is called 'whistling past the graveyard,' but that's for another thread.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:25 am

Bun Queen wrote:I like my current car which is a 2015 Volkswagen Jetta that I got from my mother after my 17th birthday. And its still in good condition I just love VWs for some reason.

Were we on a Polish forum, there'd be the obligatory comment about unreliability, boring cars or a Nazi Germany reference.

Wait... you're 23, and got a 2015 car on your 17th birthday.. are you sure?
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Postby Bun Queen » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:43 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Bun Queen wrote:I like my current car which is a 2015 Volkswagen Jetta that I got from my mother after my 17th birthday. And its still in good condition I just love VWs for some reason.

Were we on a Polish forum, there'd be the obligatory comment about unreliability, boring cars or a Nazi Germany reference.

Wait... you're 23, and got a 2015 car on your 17th birthday.. are you sure?


Yeah I was mistaken on that part its a 2007 VW I don't know where I got 2015 from...
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