New Jersey to Teach LGBT History in Schools

[Memelandia Major]

I dont care as long as they dont press it too hard on kids, which would put strictly straight kids in a position of akwardness. I also hope that it isn't too impactful on grades, as US history tends to never totally finish up like other classes in US schools. Adding LGBT history in addition to everything else could prove a bit much.

[Karu Nadu]

The P doesn’t stand for Pedophile, and it doesn’t even stand for any of the Poly terms (Polygamous, Polyamorous, etc)...

It stands for Pansexual, which is usually defined as sex and gender not really playing a factor in romantic or sexual attractions in relationships.



There is literally nothing wrong with having lots of sex as long as it is practiced safely (so get your condoms on, swallow your pills and get checked every few months or so).

Overindulgence in any activity is bad. Or atleast bad for you.

If you are comparing pansexuality to overindulgence, then there is an issue. Pansexuality is a general attraction to people.

[Bienenhalde]

Nonsense...Nothing wrong with being celibate. The Bible teaches us that celibacy is good, so how can having consensual sexual relations be a human right?

Freedom of association covers any non physically violent consensual act.

According to whom?

[Kowani]

The ability to have consensual sexual relations with another human being is a human right.

Nonsense...Nothing wrong with being celibate. The Bible teaches us that celibacy is good, so how can having consensual sexual relations be a human right?

If y’take the Bible as your ethics source and follow everything within it, then you should probably reserve your seat at The Hague.

[Woodfiredpizzas]

Freedom of association covers any non physically violent consensual act.

According to whom?

Me.

[Bienenhalde]

According to whom?

Me.

Yeah, so why should anyone care what some random people arbitrarily declare is a human right? Human rights come from God, they do not arbitrarily pop up out of nowhere.

[Kowani]

Me.

Yeah, so why should anyone care what some random people arbitrarily declare is a human right? Human rights come from God, they do not arbitrarily pop up out of nowhere.

When God proves his existence, he can explain his rationale. Then he can explain why he routinely violated those rights.

[Karu Nadu]

Me.

Yeah, so why should anyone care what some random people arbitrarily declare is a human right? Human rights come from God, they do not arbitrarily pop up out of nowhere.

No, they can come from anywhere.

[Woodfiredpizzas]

Me.

Yeah, so why should anyone care what some random people arbitrarily declare is a human right? Human rights come from God, they do not arbitrarily pop up out of nowhere.

There is no god, nor is there any relevant authority.

Rights are an outcome of applied logic.

[Bienenhalde]

Not all biblical scholars believe that the Bible condemns consensual same-sex relationships. But if someone believes that consensual gay sex is sinful, you might disagree, but that does not mean you should make wild, slanderous accusations like claiming that they do not consider LGBT people human.

[Woodfiredpizzas]

Not all biblical scholars believe that the Bible condemns consensual same-sex relationships. But if someone believes that consensual gay sex is sinful, you might disagree, but that does not mean you should make wild, slanderous accusations like claiming that they do not consider LGBT people human.

Who cares?

You can scream what you want from the street, but the bibles fans don’t get invited into the building for this discussion.

[Kowani]

Not all biblical scholars believe that the Bible condemns consensual same-sex relationships. But if someone believes that consensual gay sex is sinful, you might disagree, but that does not mean you should make wild, slanderous accusations like claiming that they do not consider LGBT people human.

That’s nice. Those that do believe that homosexuals will burn for eternity are not exactly going to be given the benefit of the doubt..

[Bienenhalde]

Not all biblical scholars believe that the Bible condemns consensual same-sex relationships. But if someone believes that consensual gay sex is sinful, you might disagree, but that does not mean you should make wild, slanderous accusations like claiming that they do not consider LGBT people human.

Who cares?

You can scream what you want from the street, but the bibles fans don’t get invited into the building for this discussion.

I am not saying that everyone in this thread has to care about the fine points of biblical interpretation, but I really wish people would stop spreading slanderous lies to defame Christians. Do you understand that?

[Woodfiredpizzas]

Who cares?

You can scream what you want from the street, but the bibles fans don’t get invited into the building for this discussion.

I am not saying that everyone in this thread has to care about the fine points of biblical interpretation, but I really wish people would stop spreading slanderous lies to defame Christians. Do you understand that?

Nobody who gets a say in this should be doing it from a biblical perspective. It’s likely the cause of the historical prejudice against gays and trans people. Peoples are right in being suspicious of anyone who uses biblical anything on this topic.

Sure you absolutely have the right to say and do stuff according to your religion. But you get that as a human, not as a Christian.

[Auze]

I just want to to know how they expect History teachers to fit this in when history as a subject already has trouble cramming in the entire curriculum.

[Neutraligon]

I just want to to know how they expect History teachers to fit this in when history as a subject already has trouble cramming in the entire curriculum.

That is a problem in and of itself. Seems to me they may need to divide the class up better.

[Torrocca]

Good, good good good. I fully support this; now it just needs to spread like good ol' wildfire. :3

[Azdov Mobius]

Overindulgence in any activity is bad. Or atleast bad for you.

If you are comparing pansexuality to overindulgence, then there is an issue. Pansexuality is a general attraction to people.

I was referring to the “lots of sex” part

[Cekoviu]

You can say pedophile. Do you think it'll summon them or something?

The P doesn’t stand for Pedophile, and it doesn’t even stand for any of the Poly terms (Polygamous, Polyamorous, etc)...

It stands for Pansexual, which is usually defined as sex and gender not really playing a factor in romantic or sexual attractions in relationships.

In this case Azdov Mobius is referring to pedophilia.

And how does acknowledging the historic contributions of LGBTQIA and disabled persons do harm exactly?

Stop adding letters!!
Does the Q meaning questioning? Queer? Queer is just another word for gay.
I? I as in in questioning? A is Asexual I guess but nobody has issues with Asexual people.

Q stands for questioning and queer. Queer is not the same thing as gay; it encompasses all non-heterosexual sexual and romantic orientations, and it also includes genderqueer (nonbinary) people.

The P doesn’t stand for Pedophile, and it doesn’t even stand for any of the Poly terms (Polygamous, Polyamorous, etc)...

It stands for Pansexual, which is usually defined as sex and gender not really playing a factor in romantic or sexual attractions in relationships.



There is literally nothing wrong with having lots of sex as long as it is practiced safely (so get your condoms on, swallow your pills and get checked every few months or so).

So in other words they might like a guy or girl...that’s just being bisexual.
People need to stop making new words to separate them selves further to feel more special.

The difference between pansexual and bisexual is a subtle one, but there is an important difference. Pansexual explicitly includes all gender identities, while bisexual may mean attraction to men and women or to more than two genders depending on who you ask.

[Vassenor]

No, it's not.

Yes, it is.

People trying to sympathize for aimless polygamy makes me almost made as some of those far leftist freaks who want to add a P to LGBTQ+, and that P doesn’t mean Polygamous or Pansexual if you know what I mean.

I didn't know /pol/ was a cabal of "far leftist freaks".

[The Pan-Asian National Coalition]

There is nothing wrong with this as long as they don't go overboard with the identity politics or go full out SJW.

If they strictly stick to teaching LGBT history and not instantly devolve into “Look at how oppressed we were! OMG, look at all that oppressi— Oh, you wanted to actually know about Ferdinand I of Bulgaria?”

That is true , I think that would be the best way to go about it

[Mayadeva]

I didn't know /pol/ was a cabal of "far leftist freaks".

> be me
> George Bush is president
> want universal access to healthcare and education
> want to protect America's working class
> don't want endless wars
> am a liberal

... fast forward...

> still me
> Obama is president
> government uses power of coercion to give private health insurance providers monopolies over terrible products, insurance company stock value skyrockets, workers pay more money for worse healthcare
> nothing happens with education
> working class is gutted by lack of protection against cheap imported products and cheap imported labor
> still endless wars, funding terrorism via the Washington -> Saudi Arabia -> ISIS pipeline
> still want the same things

... fast forward...

> still just me
> the "left" has completely devolved into identity politics, and is mostly about teaching public school students how to:
>> get HIV and other diseases
>> have unstable personal relationships, no family, loneliness
>> surgically remove penis
>> act proud about it

I used to play this game like ten years ago, and I remember when every other person in the forum didn't have a signature like "disabled autistic polyamorous transexual lesbian pornstar revolutionary social egalitarian mexican/somalian muslim communist and PROUD OF IT."

Like, when people could just be people, instead of being organized into a social shaming / victimhood hierarchy. Homosexuals have had the right to do what they want for decades now, but that does not mean we should encourage their behavior as a healthy alternative to normal life. It is also clearly not wise to let them adopt because they are more likely to rape their children.

Everyone knows this is true, but no one has the courage to say it.

I understand now why school shootings happen. Schools have become open air prisons where the government steals people's children and psychologically abuses them because of how immoral it is that they don't get castrated and love it.

Not only are school shooters wonderful people, they are in fact courageous revolutionary martyrs. They are my personal heroes. With every discharge from their AR-15's, the angels sing their praises, and rejoice that they will soon be reunited with all heroes of past in the boundless realm of Valhalla.

[Karu Nadu]

I didn't know /pol/ was a cabal of "far leftist freaks".

Like, when people could just be people, instead of being organized into a social shaming / victimhood hierarchy. Homosexuals have had the right to do what they want for decades now, but that does not mean we should encourage their behavior as a healthy alternative to normal life. It is also clearly not wise to let them adopt because they are more likely to rape their children.

Yes, gay people shouldn't adopt because they aren't normal and rape their children.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

[Ethel mermania]

I didn't know /pol/ was a cabal of "far leftist freaks".

> be me
> George Bush is president
> want universal access to healthcare and education
> want to protect America's working class
> don't want endless wars
> am a liberal

... fast forward...

> still me
> Obama is president
> government uses power of coercion to give private health insurance providers monopolies over terrible products, insurance company stock value skyrockets, workers pay more money for worse healthcare
> nothing happens with education
> working class is gutted by lack of protection against cheap imported products and cheap imported labor
> still endless wars, funding terrorism via the Washington -> Saudi Arabia -> ISIS pipeline
> still want the same things

... fast forward...

> still just me
> the "left" has completely devolved into identity politics, and is mostly about teaching public school students how to:
>> get HIV and other diseases
>> have unstable personal relationships, no family, loneliness
>> surgically remove penis
>> act proud about it

I used to play this game like ten years ago, and I remember when every other person in the forum didn't have a signature like "disabled autistic polyamorous transexual lesbian pornstar revolutionary social egalitarian mexican/somalian muslim communist and PROUD OF IT."

Like, when people could just be people, instead of being organized into a social shaming / victimhood hierarchy. Homosexuals have had the right to do what they want for decades now, but that does not mean we should encourage their behavior as a healthy alternative to normal life. It is also clearly not wise to let them adopt because they are more likely to rape their children.

Everyone knows this is true, but no one has the courage to say it.

I understand now why school shootings happen. Schools have become open air prisons where the government steals people's children and psychologically abuses them because of how immoral it is that they don't get castrated and love it.

Not only are school shooters wonderful people, they are in fact courageous revolutionary martyrs. They are my personal heroes. With every discharge from their AR-15's, the angels sing their praises, and rejoice that they will soon be reunited with all heroes of past in the boundless realm of Valhalla.

Which relates to NJ teaching the accomplisments of the gay and disabled, how?

[Ifreann]

> be me
> George Bush is president
> want universal access to healthcare and education
> want to protect America's working class
> don't want endless wars
> am a liberal

... fast forward...

> still me
> Obama is president
> government uses power of coercion to give private health insurance providers monopolies over terrible products, insurance company stock value skyrockets, workers pay more money for worse healthcare
> nothing happens with education
> working class is gutted by lack of protection against cheap imported products and cheap imported labor
> still endless wars, funding terrorism via the Washington -> Saudi Arabia -> ISIS pipeline
> still want the same things

... fast forward...

> still just me
> the "left" has completely devolved into identity politics, and is mostly about teaching public school students how to:
>> get HIV and other diseases
>> have unstable personal relationships, no family, loneliness
>> surgically remove penis
>> act proud about it

I used to play this game like ten years ago, and I remember when every other person in the forum didn't have a signature like "disabled autistic polyamorous transexual lesbian pornstar revolutionary social egalitarian mexican/somalian muslim communist and PROUD OF IT."

Like, when people could just be people, instead of being organized into a social shaming / victimhood hierarchy. Homosexuals have had the right to do what they want for decades now, but that does not mean we should encourage their behavior as a healthy alternative to normal life. It is also clearly not wise to let them adopt because they are more likely to rape their children.

Everyone knows this is true, but no one has the courage to say it.

I understand now why school shootings happen. Schools have become open air prisons where the government steals people's children and psychologically abuses them because of how immoral it is that they don't get castrated and love it.

Not only are school shooters wonderful people, they are in fact courageous revolutionary martyrs. They are my personal heroes. With every discharge from their AR-15's, the angels sing their praises, and rejoice that they will soon be reunited with all heroes of past in the boundless realm of Valhalla.

Which relates to NJ teaching the accomplisments of the gay and disabled, how?

It'll cause school shootings, duh.