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Moral Decency

Where WA members debate how to improve the world, one resolution at a time.

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yes
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no
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Total votes : 27

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Genovian Empire
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Founded: Oct 31, 2018
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Moral Decency

Postby Genovian Empire » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:39 am

Public Decency
Ashamed that this Assembly does not already guarantee or recognize the right of an individual and their family to be comfortable walking around their country free from moral indecency,

Cognizant that some governments deliberately support affording the right of same-sex marriage in order to suppress the freedoms and liberties of the heterosexual individuals and maintain a controlling presence on traditional marriage and society,

Acknowledging that government services seek to destroy the family and society and may endanger life as we know it,

Hereby,
1. Defines “family” as someone related to an individual by blood, in marriage, in law,

2. Restricts homosexual acts to the privacy of their own homes, not to be flaunted in public,

3. Affirms the place of traditional families in society, and declares that nations are to only permit heterosexual acts of affection in public,

4. Clarifies that nothing in this resolution should be read to void, infringe, or adversely impact any other right to or regulation of arms affirmed by this Assembly, but allows criminalization of a homosexual act in public,

5. Further clarifies that nothing in this resolution should be read to infringe upon the efficacy of homosexual acts or to promote violence,

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Maowi
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Postby Maowi » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:21 am

Genovian Empire wrote:declares that nations are to only permit heterosexual acts of affection in public,

Apart from the fact that I disagree with the whole idea, is this not a blatant violation of GAR 35?
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The New Nordic Union
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:39 am

Maowi wrote:
Genovian Empire wrote:declares that nations are to only permit heterosexual acts of affection in public,

Apart from the fact that I disagree with the whole idea, is this not a blatant violation of GAR 35?


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It is.

Also, clause (4) does not make sense at all; what does this resolution have to do with the regulation of arms, and what do arms have to do with homosexuality?
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Hystaria
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Postby Hystaria » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:41 am

...You don't even know how to make a poll correctly....
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:59 am

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Postby Tinfect » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:02 pm

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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:23 pm

We are really curious how two people getting married “suppresses the freedoms and liberties” of anybody?
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:08 pm

:lol2:

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OOC: This proposal violates several existing laws, and has the added weakness that it never actually defines the thing it's trying to outlaw. What is a "homosexual act?" What makes a family "traditional?" And how on earth does one infringe on the "efficacy" of homosexual acts? What does that even mean?

TL;dr This is illegal and doomed.
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Jebslund
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Postby Jebslund » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:42 pm

Genovian Empire wrote:Public Decency
Ashamed that this Assembly does not already guarantee or recognize the right of an individual and their family to be comfortable walking around their country free from moral indecency,

Cognizant that some governments deliberately support affording the right of same-sex marriage in order to suppress the freedoms and liberties of the heterosexual individuals and maintain a controlling presence on traditional marriage and society,

Acknowledging that government services seek to destroy the family and society and may endanger life as we know it,

Hereby,
1. Defines “family” as someone related to an individual by blood, in marriage, in law,

2. Restricts homosexual acts to the privacy of their own homes, not to be flaunted in public,

3. Affirms the place of traditional families in society, and declares that nations are to only permit heterosexual acts of affection in public,

4. Clarifies that nothing in this resolution should be read to void, infringe, or adversely impact any other right to or regulation of arms affirmed by this Assembly, but allows criminalization of a homosexual act in public,

5. Further clarifies that nothing in this resolution should be read to infringe upon the efficacy of homosexual acts or to promote violence,

[Preserving a copy in case it gets nuked before the mods can look at it]
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The Sheika
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Postby The Sheika » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:16 pm

Opposed, mostly because I am trying to figure out how someone is oppressed by the rights they already have being granted to somebody else. That and contradiction of existing legislation.
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Libertariatropolis
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Postby Libertariatropolis » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:24 pm

Strongly opposed. The job of the World Assembly is to defend human rights, not suppress them with such acts as these.
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Korwin
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Founded: Oct 03, 2018
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Postby Korwin » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Genovia, listen, we know that your trying to be edgy and you want to go against the stream, but I promise that you'll soon grow out of it. I had a rebellious phase in my youth too, ya know.

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:03 pm

Why are you plagiarizing "Right to Self-Defense" in a proposal to pray the gay away?
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The Mongol Plain
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Mongol Plain » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:03 am

Homophobic. Against.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:10 am

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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:13 am

The solution is obviously a full and complete ban on all affection... Kissing and sex spreads germs, its a public health issue!
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:15 am

"I am going to have to be against this policy, my dear Ambassador. Also, instead of only keeping homosexual acts in private, why not do the same for heterosexuals as well? Do note that I am not being discriminatory towards anyone, but as we all know, the acts in bed should be kept in the bedroom, not with an outside audience to see!
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Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:The solutions is obviously an full and complete ban on all affection... Kissing and sex spreads germs, its a public health issue!


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Aclion
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Postby Aclion » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:29 am

If this is really a concern then what stops nations from implementing policies at a national level to address the issue?

(Other the contradictions with WA law of course.)

Jebslund wrote:[Preserving a copy in case it gets nuked before the mods can look at it]

I'm sure the mods appreciate people going out of their way to make more work for them. :p
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Postby Great Wendor » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:32 am

OOC: if this passes, I’m out of the WA
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Jebslund
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Postby Jebslund » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:39 am

Aclion wrote:If this is really a concern then what stops nations from implementing policies at a national level to address the issue?

(Other the contradictions with WA law of course.)

Jebslund wrote:[Preserving a copy in case it gets nuked before the mods can look at it]

I'm sure the mods appreciate people going out of their way to make more work for them. :p

It's basically a hit-and-run troll post with, as Wallenberg pointed out, a side-order of plagiarism. I've already reported it in the MMLG mega.
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Postby Wrapper » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:38 am

Wallenburg wrote:Why are you plagiarizing "Right to Self-Defense" in a proposal to pray the gay away?

This. Regardless of the merits (or lack thereof) of this proposal, submitting this will result in your expulsion from the WA. Thread locked.


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