US Government Shutdown- It's Over!... For Now

[Big Jim P]

Funny how the outcome is always "Nazis must be allowed to do whatever they want".

Didn't work out in the 30s so what makes you think it'll work now?

Exactly who here has said that?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

They shouldn't need to find another job. There curent job should pay them for the hours they worked.

But thats not happing beacuse Trump wants a wall.

No, their current jobs shouldn't exist.

Thats a stupid statement.

[Alvecia]

They shouldn't need to find another job. There curent job should pay them for the hours they worked.

But thats not happing beacuse Trump wants a wall.

No, their current jobs shouldn't exist.

There shouldn't be a coast guard?

[Big Jim P]

So guys that goverment shutdown is bad

Not really. It shows just how much we don't need as much government.

[Katganistan]

not gonna lie pelosi telling me to stuff it would seem like a complement.

if she fucking hates it, chances are its probably a decent idea.

So do you support endangering migration patterns of hundreds of species and bulldozing the National Butterfly Sanctuary to build a stupid unneeded wall? Go ask China how well building a border wall worked out.

There are also these things called planes, ships, shovels and ladders perhaps you've heard of them?

And planes are how most illegals get here -- by entering legally, then overstaying their visas.

Not to mention how fucking hypocritical this is when Trump employed and undocumented workers on his business properties. And he's used to not paying people for the work they do, so this doesn't at all strike him as a bad thing.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So guys that goverment shutdown is bad

Not really. It shows just how much we don't need as much government.

Tell that to all the business who rely on federal employees geting payed.

[Katganistan]

without butterflies you have no flowers in your garden or neighborhood park

Bees.

Which are dying off if you haven't noticed.

[Big Jim P]

Not really. It shows just how much we don't need as much government.

Tell that to all the business who rely on federal employees geting payed.

In fact, we could do with even more of it shut down.

[Valrifell]

Not really. It shows just how much we don't need as much government.

Tell that to all the business who rely on federal employees geting payed.

It's also affecting the government's ability to fund NASA and science research.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Tell that to all the business who rely on federal employees geting payed.

In fact, we could do with even more of it shut down.

That would be even worse.

[Alvecia]

So guys that goverment shutdown is bad

Not really. It shows just how much we don't need as much government.

Border security, tax refunds, food safety, science and research, factory safety inspections. All superfluous stuff really.

[Big Jim P]

Not really. It shows just how much we don't need as much government.

Border security, tax refunds, food safety, science and research, factory safety inspections. All superfluous stuff really.

You are actually putting that in the list when it's the dems refusal to fund the wall that is the cause of all this?

[Katganistan]

I mean, kind of. Functionally, this is a dispute between the house and the senate so far - neither has passed the other’s bills or opened reconciliation. Trump’s just publically feeding the dispute.

Exactly my point, Trump can't even reopen the government at this point.

And since he can't bring both sides to the table, it's his fault and he should be fired.

So sayeth Donnie -- in 2013.

[Spirit of Hope]

So guys that goverment shutdown is bad

Not really. It shows just how much we don't need as much government.

Since our economy is only still working because people are working without pay, I'm pretty sure if the people currently working without pay stopped working the economy would collapse. But planes not being able to fly, no one investigating credit card fraud/forgery, no food or drug inspections, etc could be a good thing in your mind.

[Alvecia]

Border security, tax refunds, food safety, science and research, factory safety inspections. All superfluous stuff really.

You are actually putting that in the list when it's the dems refusal to fund the wall that is the cause of all this?

Yes actually. With the coast guard, TSA, and CBP functionally shutdown, Trump might have actually created a border crisis where previously one didn’t exist.

[Vassenor]

They shouldn't need to find another job. There curent job should pay them for the hours they worked.

But thats not happing beacuse Trump wants a wall.

No, their current jobs shouldn't exist.

Pray you never have to be rescued at sea then, if you think the Coast Guard is superfluous.

[Katganistan]

You would think the best deal maker would have this solved.

He isn't. He's a sham, and people who like his bullying tactics never understood this.

[Vassenor]

Border security, tax refunds, food safety, science and research, factory safety inspections. All superfluous stuff really.

You are actually putting that in the list when it's the dems refusal to fund the wall that is the cause of all this?

The dems were willing to fund Border Security. Just not a massive piece of security theatre that only serves to compensate for Trump's tiny hands, and nothing more.

[Imperializt Russia]

Border security, tax refunds, food safety, science and research, factory safety inspections. All superfluous stuff really.

You are actually putting that in the list when it's the dems refusal to fund the wall that is the cause of all this?

A big pointless wall? Even Fox hosts point out that they campaigned the midterms on not funding the wall and winning on that platform.

Let's face facts, the shutdown is because of Fox and Trump. The spending package was ready to be signed off and was agreed by both houses, Fox calls Trump out for not having wall spending, Trump says he won't sign it anymore.

Trump shut down the government, he said he would, he said we wanted to. Trump is keeping it closed, since "border security" was already in the agreement, just not his stupid fucking wall.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

No, their current jobs shouldn't exist.

Pray you never have to be rescued at sea then, if you think the Coast Guard is superfluous.

I don't really want the government to play a role in ensuring my safety at all.

[Vassenor]

Pray you never have to be rescued at sea then, if you think the Coast Guard is superfluous.

I don't really want the government to play a role in ensuring my safety at all.

And this is what happens when people take SMALLER GUBMINT to its stupidest extreme.

[Katganistan]

It's been said before, but I want to make it clear.

There is no crysis on the US border. Trump is just fear mongering for the purpose of a wall.

>Trump is putting immigrant children in cages at the border
>There is no crisis at the border

Pick one.

There's not enough crisis to declare a national emergency, but there are dire humanitarian needs. Border security and personnel needs more help in processing and housing migrants.

It is a crisis of Trump's design, and of Trump's planning to get his fucking wall.

[Imperializt Russia]

Pray you never have to be rescued at sea then, if you think the Coast Guard is superfluous.

I don't really want the government to play a role in ensuring my safety at all.

The sea will ruin your wallet and the privateer coastguard won't rescue you tho.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I don't really want the government to play a role in ensuring my safety at all.

And this is what happens when people take SMALLER GUBMINT to its stupidest extreme.

Given I think that society as we know it ending and a complete re-ordering is in order?

Yes, I'd say it's pretty extreme. Not a bad thing though.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I don't really want the government to play a role in ensuring my safety at all.

The sea will ruin your wallet and the privateer coastguard won't rescue you tho.

It's not about money. Not even a little bit.