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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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No
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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:33 pm

The Traansval wrote:Governments been shut down for more than fifteen days so we're legally allowed to seceed from the Union

That sounds like Dixie talk
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:35 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The Traansval wrote:Governments been shut down for more than fifteen days so we're legally allowed to seceed from the Union

That sounds like Dixie talk
Am I gonna need to get Tecumseh?

Do it again, Uncle Sherman!
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:48 pm

The Traansval wrote:Governments been shut down for more than fifteen days so we're legally allowed to seceed from the Union

I can't argue with that.
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Des-Bal
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:09 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pulling a National Emergency is the dumbest thing Trump could do as it would only piss off the military, where the $6 Billion funds would come from, or piss off the people in Florida and Texas effected by the hurricanes, where the $6 Billion can also come from.

Oh and the thing auto sunsets after a year with no Congressional consent. And congress has to vote on it to approve its continuation 6 months after the order has been given.



It would be great, he would be seriously abrogating the separation of powers, blowing a piece of our military budget, and undermining our emergency readiness to get a very, very small percentage of the funding necessary for the wall.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:10 pm

The Traansval wrote:Governments been shut down for more than fifteen days so we're legally allowed to seceed from the Union

Even then, that's a stupid idea. I'm opposed to all secessionist movements. Even if they have good intentions.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:14 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Pulling a National Emergency is the dumbest thing Trump could do as it would only piss off the military, where the $6 Billion funds would come from, or piss off the people in Florida and Texas effected by the hurricanes, where the $6 Billion can also come from.

Oh and the thing auto sunsets after a year with no Congressional consent. And congress has to vote on it to approve its continuation 6 months after the order has been given.



It would be great, he would be seriously abrogating the separation of powers, blowing a piece of our military budget, and undermining our emergency readiness to get a very, very small percentage of the funding necessary for the wall.

And many in Congress would be very displeased with it.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:20 pm

Jolthig wrote:
The Traansval wrote:Governments been shut down for more than fifteen days so we're legally allowed to seceed from the Union

Even then, that's a stupid idea. I'm opposed to all secessionist movements. Even if they have good intentions.

You sadden me.
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:21 pm

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Even then, that's a stupid idea. I'm opposed to all secessionist movements. Even if they have good intentions.

You sadden me.

Well, let's say some of our founding fathers have a big impact on me. Specifically the founding fathers. :p
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:13 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Legalize meth and cocaine?

No.

What happened to bodily autonomy?
Oh wait, drugs are icky.


Addicting life destoying drugs should not be allowed.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:15 pm

MGTOWia wrote:Now that the bad faith of Pelosi/Schumer has been exposed for all to see, and likewise their real agenda of importing future Democrat voters rather than representing American citizens, I hope President Trump finally declares a national emergency, as provided for by the 1976 National Emergencies Act. He can then act to secure the border whether P/S like it or not. And if they try to tie things up via their usual forum-shopping for judges who share their agenda, they will ultimately lose, and sooner rather than later.


It is not an emergency, his deal was shity, and most Americans don't want a wall.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:17 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
MGTOWia wrote:Now that the bad faith of Pelosi/Schumer has been exposed for all to see, and likewise their real agenda of importing future Democrat voters rather than representing American citizens, I hope President Trump finally declares a national emergency, as provided for by the 1976 National Emergencies Act. He can then act to secure the border whether P/S like it or not. And if they try to tie things up via their usual forum-shopping for judges who share their agenda, they will ultimately lose, and sooner rather than later.


It is not an emergency, his deal was shity, and most Americans don't want a wall.

Not to mention congress and military would be displeased and it would be challenged and likely struck down in court.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:22 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kowani wrote:What happened to bodily autonomy?
Oh wait, drugs are icky.


Addicting life destoying drugs should not be allowed.

So, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, preservatives...
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:37 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Addicting life destoying drugs should not be allowed.

So, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, preservatives...


Beacuse being addicted to sugar is like being addicted to meth.

One is clearly more damaging then the other.

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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:38 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kowani wrote:So, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, preservatives...


Beacuse being addicted to sugar is like being addicted to meth.

One is clearly more damaging then the other.


Judging by the numbers, its sugar, by a long shot.
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The Isle of Beithe
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Postby The Isle of Beithe » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:39 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kowani wrote:So, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, preservatives...


Beacuse being addicted to sugar is like being addicted to meth.

One is clearly more damaging then the other.


Caffeine is also very addictive, yet how many of you are willing to give up that morning cup of joe?

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Beacuse being addicted to sugar is like being addicted to meth.

One is clearly more damaging then the other.


Judging by the numbers, its sugar, by a long shot.


Well, diabetes is pretty serious.
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Postby Aellex » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:42 pm

The Isle of Beithe wrote:Caffeine is also very addictive, yet how many of you are willing to give up that morning cup of joe?

I will unironically shank anyone who try to put himself between me and my half a litter of coffee a day.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:47 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Beacuse being addicted to sugar is like being addicted to meth.

One is clearly more damaging then the other.


Judging by the numbers, its sugar, by a long shot.


If you put meth in bread then I imagine the numbers might change a bit...

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The Isle of Beithe
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Postby The Isle of Beithe » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:49 pm

Aellex wrote:
The Isle of Beithe wrote:Caffeine is also very addictive, yet how many of you are willing to give up that morning cup of joe?

I will unironically shank anyone who try to put himself between me and my half a litter of coffee a day.


Same.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:52 pm

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Corrian wrote:And lining them up against a wall and shooting them won't make them angrier how?

If they're dead, they can't be angry.

The people alive elsewhere will be, though.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:26 pm

Aellex wrote:
The Isle of Beithe wrote:Caffeine is also very addictive, yet how many of you are willing to give up that morning cup of joe?

I will unironically shank anyone who try to put himself between me and my half a litter of coffee a day.

I think we should put warning labels on coffee and put heavier taxes on it. Then again, I’m part of the tea company conspiracy so my opinion doesn’t count on this matter.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:27 pm

The Isle of Beithe wrote:Caffeine is also very addictive, yet how many of you are willing to give up that morning cup of joe?

Coffee is disgusting though.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:30 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
The Isle of Beithe wrote:Caffeine is also very addictive, yet how many of you are willing to give up that morning cup of joe?

Coffee is disgusting though.

:hug:
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:47 pm

Kowani wrote::hug:

I hate hugs.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:01 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kowani wrote:What happened to bodily autonomy?
Oh wait, drugs are icky.


Addicting life destoying drugs should not be allowed.

When did we ban morphine again?
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:02 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Kowani wrote::hug:

I hate hugs.

...Handshake?
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