US Government Shutdown- It's Over!... For Now

[Seangoli]

Between my mom ranting to me about how the evil Democrats are keeping Trump from getting his wall and she supports the government shut down, it's occurred to me, why's it the Democrat's fault when Republicans held both houses of Congress under Trump for two years?

Not to mention the shutdown started before the Democrats officially took the House on January 3rd. The Repiblicans couldn't even get a majority of Republicans on board with the wall, let alone the Democrats.

Tho frame this as Democrats vs. Republicans is disingenuous. It started under a Republican controlled Congress, and they easily could have gone through reconcilliation and passed with a simple majority.

Hell, you don't even need to go through reconcilliation. A bidget resolution can be passed in either the House or Senate with a simple majority.

[The Grims]

Between my mom ranting to me about how the evil Democrats are keeping Trump from getting his wall and she supports the government shut down, it's occurred to me, why's it the Democrat's fault when Republicans held both houses of Congress under Trump for two years?

Because Trump said it is.

Suppose tomorrow Trump would say the wall is complete, that the Mexicans paid for it and that it is 100 percent effective and that the shutdown can end - would that not be the perfect solution?

It is simply alternative facts.

[San Lumen]

Because Trump said it is.

Suppose tomorrow Trump would say the wall is complete, that the Mexicans paid for it and that it is 100 percent effective and that the shutdown can end - would that not be the perfect solution?

It is simply alternative facts.

His base would anything he said so I dont know why he doesnt just say that.

[West Leas Oros 2]

What good is a statement if no one listens?

Ask the people who sell your personal data because you mindlessly clicked "ok" at the 372 page ToS that new game asked you to agree to

>Assuming I don't read all 372 pages

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Ask the people who sell your personal data because you mindlessly clicked "ok" at the 372 page ToS that new game asked you to agree to

>Assuming I don't read all 372 pages

There is a search tool so you can look where it says your information can be sold to terrorists.

[Longweather]

Well, NASA Ames is apparently going to be protesting the shutdown today from what I've heard. I hope the voices of my fellow professional nerds make an impact.

[Confederate States of German America]

We had the chance to win Afghanistan at one point, but that ship has since sailed. Best thing to do now is arrange for a managed transition and try to get the Taliban to keep the Chinese out while burning the poppy crops like they use to.

Or, we subsidize farmers who destroy their poppy harvests and give them seeds to plant other crops to avoid economically destroying the country.

We've tried that before. What works? Getting the Taliban to do it because they're more willing to use force and appeal to religious sentiments, which work better.

[Tobleste]

Suppose tomorrow Trump would say the wall is complete, that the Mexicans paid for it and that it is 100 percent effective and that the shutdown can end - would that not be the perfect solution?

It is simply alternative facts.

His base would anything he said so I dont know why he doesnt just say that.

Maybe he can't get one of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter on board. If those 4 told people that liquids were toxic, Trump supporters would hide from rain.

[San Lumen]

His base would anything he said so I dont know why he doesnt just say that.

Maybe he can't get one of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter on board. If those 4 told people that liquids were toxic, Trump supporters would hide from rain.

If he said the Earth was flat and dinosaurs didnt exist his base would believe it

[Ifreann]

Suppose tomorrow Trump would say the wall is complete, that the Mexicans paid for it and that it is 100 percent effective and that the shutdown can end - would that not be the perfect solution?

It is simply alternative facts.

His base would anything he said so I dont know why he doesnt just say that.

He's afraid that Fox News would call him out.

[Tobleste]

His base would anything he said so I dont know why he doesnt just say that.

He's afraid that Fox News would call him out.

Afaik, that's what happened this time. He couldn't get enough senators to fund it for 2 years but didn't care. Then dems win the house and Fox news started panicking and looked like turning on him which panicked him into this.

[Nazis in Space]

He's afraid that Fox News would call him out.

Afaik, that's what happened this time. He couldn't get enough senators to fund it for 2 years but didn't care. Then dems win the house and Fox news started panicking and looked like turning on him which panicked him into this.

Somewhat more to the point, the Dems gave him the funding for his wall. The price for this was expanding DACA. Donald agreed to this.

Then Fox criticised Donald for daring to compromise. In politics. And since being criticised by Fox News is, like, the worst possible thing that could ever happen to a man, Donald promptly dropped the deal and demanded everything in exchange for nothing.

Cue the present.

He could have had his wall. He could have had his triumph, his single most central promise, the foundation of his very campaign. He could've started building it right now, and his supporters could've raised their hands and praised their lord and saviour.

But Fox News criticised him, and so he promptly passed on the above in favour of a government shutdown.

[Ifreann]

Afaik, that's what happened this time. He couldn't get enough senators to fund it for 2 years but didn't care. Then dems win the house and Fox news started panicking and looked like turning on him which panicked him into this.

Somewhat more to the point, the Dems gave him the funding for his wall. The price for this was expanding DACA. Donald agreed to this.

Then Fox criticised Donald for daring to compromise. In politics. And since being criticised by Fox News is, like, the worst possible thing that could ever happen to a man, Donald promptly dropped the deal and demanded everything in exchange for nothing.

Cue the present.

He could have had his wall. He could have had his triumph, his single most central promise, the foundation of his very campaign. He could start building it right now, and his supporters could raise their hands and praise their lord.

But Fox News criticised him, and so he promptly passed on the above in favour of a government shutdown.

What an age we live in.

[Corrian]

The most important issue of the shutdown, guys...

One More Thing The Shutdown Took: Panda Cams

[Phoenicaea]

^ ..reading what guys write, it would, quite seem, perhaps my hipothesis, as Trump has done all that his main sponsors wish (abolish taxes and send them to common man's public debt).

so that, the lack of fitness made Trump forget to keep the other shoe for himself, so not to give all the pair of shoes gift away before re-election.lords dont care now, they let him sink.

[The Serbian Empire]

I bet this won't end until 2021 or 2025 dependent on the election outcome in 2020.

[Valrifell]

I bet this won't end until 2021 or 2025 dependent on the election outcome in 2020.

Calm down, it's not even been going on for a month, let alone two years.

[Rezmaeristan]

I bet this won't end until 2021 or 2025 dependent on the election outcome in 2020.

We're heading for a civil war. This is the kinda stuff that leads to civil wars: when a country's political factions can't agree on something. The first American Civil War started because the North and South wouldn't cooperate because they disagreed on slavery. Here, Democrats and Republicans disagree on border enforcement. This civil war won't be geographic; it'll be ideological with leftist and rightist extremists attacking each other in various ways. Heck, I think we already kind of are heading that direction; we're in a "Cold Civil War".

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I bet this won't end until 2021 or 2025 dependent on the election outcome in 2020.

We're heading for a civil war. This is the kinda stuff that leads to civil wars: when a country's political factions can't agree on something. The first American Civil War started because the North and South wouldn't cooperate because they disagreed on slavery. Here, Democrats and Republicans disagree on border enforcement. This civil war won't be geographic; it'll be ideological with leftist and rightist extremists attacking each other in various ways. Heck, I think we already kind of are heading that direction; we're in a "Cold Civil War".

Political violence in modern America is basically just a low intensity far-right terrorism campaign.

[Corrian]

So it seems like one of the reasons McConnell doesn't want to defy Trump is because they're worried about their own reelection in 2020.

[Rezmaeristan]

We're heading for a civil war. This is the kinda stuff that leads to civil wars: when a country's political factions can't agree on something. The first American Civil War started because the North and South wouldn't cooperate because they disagreed on slavery. Here, Democrats and Republicans disagree on border enforcement. This civil war won't be geographic; it'll be ideological with leftist and rightist extremists attacking each other in various ways. Heck, I think we already kind of are heading that direction; we're in a "Cold Civil War".

Political violence in modern America is basically just a low intensity far-right terrorism campaign.

Some of it's left wing. AFAIK Antifa and company do it more, but the Far Right seems to have a higher casualty count with fewer incidents. Maybe they're better at it? Maybe they're more determined? I dunno.

Edit: Actually, turns out the Right does it more. Though, there's a lot of ideologies you could class as "Right-wing extremism" or "far-right": Right-libertarian/anti-government extremists such as the Sovereign Citizens are often lumped in with what one usually thinks of when one thinks of "right wing extremist" or "far-right".

[Ism]

So it seems like one of the reasons McConnell doesn't want to defy Trump is because they're worried about their own reelection in 2020.

Great reason to shut down government that. Really, it's just such a struggle for multi-millionaires these days, what would he even do with himself if he lost an election?

[The Rich Port]

Hey fuck all this dumb shit.

We're getting REPORTS here at the central news station.

The walls that are on the border are... They're under siege.

GOOD GOD. THE WALLS ARE COLLAPSING.

IT'S... IT'S.

IT'S THE SHOCKMASTER

I, wowo, this changed my mind.

Vote Trump 2020. We need more walls.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Hey fuck all this dumb shit.

We're getting REPORTS here at the central news station.

The walls that are on the border are... They're under siege.

GOOD GOD. THE WALLS ARE COLLAPSING.

IT'S... IT'S.

IT'S THE SHOCKMASTER
(Image)

I, wowo, this changed my mind.

Vote Trump 2020. We need more walls.

Oh shit, THE SHOCKMASTER!



I first heard about him when I saw Joel stream Harvester, that's a really fucked up game btw

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28 Days Without Government Later

[Bahktar]

We're heading for a civil war. This is the kinda stuff that leads to civil wars: when a country's political factions can't agree on something. The first American Civil War started because the North and South wouldn't cooperate because they disagreed on slavery. Here, Democrats and Republicans disagree on border enforcement. This civil war won't be geographic; it'll be ideological with leftist and rightist extremists attacking each other in various ways. Heck, I think we already kind of are heading that direction; we're in a "Cold Civil War".

Needless fear-mongering. There isn't going to be a Second American Civil War now. Ordinary Americans aren't willing to kill each other because of ideology right now, thankfully.

For a civil war, you need much more than just political violence, which, let's be real - isn't really that high in the USA.