Inquisitions and jihads. Why do theists and tax payers respe

[Hakons]

Ah yes, some good anti-religious bigotry this fine evening

[The New California Republic]

Ah yes, some good anti-religious bigotry this fine evening

Evening? This has been going on all day...

[Bloodshade]

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Chaos warriors and Daemons! Why do theists and taxpayers respect the Chaos Gods

Wanted to throw in my two cents about the topic but it seems like you're right about the bait god's influence after further inspection of this thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Jolthig]

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Chaos warriors and Daemons! Why do theists and taxpayers respect the Chaos Gods

Wanted to throw in my two cents about the topic but it seems like you're right about the bait god's influence after further inspection of this thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tbh, my latest responses were only for fun before I go to work. So I'll be out now haha

[Xmara]

Yeah, I’m out of here. Op is the pot calling the kettle black.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yeah, I’m out of here. Op is the pot calling the kettle black.

Yeah, didn't he just make a thread about people being too close-minded?

[Ungvarnfjall]

I'm not actually a Christian by any right anymore, but I'm just dropping by to say crusade is not the core tenet of their beliefs. I don't like Christianity and I don't like abrahamic religions all together, but the one thing I dislike more than any of those is ignorance. I've read the bible, only so much of it is about crusades and hatred. I've never read the Qur'an, either, but I know for a fact it isn't a user's manual for Jihad. Following those religions means that you are adherent to the basis religion that commits the atrocities, but that doesn't mean you are committing them or a supporter of them. When a war happens, not everyone is a soldier in it, and not everyone supports the war happening. Like, for instance, you are a proponent of a Christian denomination, Gnosticism, which is an infallible truth unless you convert to another religion. Obviously, you're not a supporter of crusades, further proving my point that the followers of religions are not always supporters of every doctrine, commandment and action of their faith and members of their faith. I am a pagan who has met many hundreds of people who follow religions that command for my death, but that's just not what has happened, because they don't support those doctrines of their faith. I, a pagan, have plenty of atrocities committed by my people in the name of my faith that have occured in the past and have been rather well documented. I do not at all support those. Just because I am a pagan does not mean I blood eagle Christians and raid my neighbors. Just because someone is Muslim does not mean they support Jihad and report Intoxicant drinkers. Just because someone is Jewish does not mean they kill themselves for violating the Seven Laws or cover their hair after marriage for good. Seriously, these generalizations aren't going to get you anywhere.

TL;DR - Read it or leave it.

[Bloodshade]

Chaos warriors and Daemons! Why do theists and taxpayers respect the Chaos Gods

Wanted to throw in my two cents about the topic but it seems like you're right about the bait god's influence after further inspection of this thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tbh, my latest responses were only for fun before I go to work. So I'll be out now haha

Your resistance against the forces of bait is admirable! Cheers!

Yeah, didn't he just make a thread about people being too close-minded?

Coming from him, that is rather...

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'm not actually a Christian by any right anymore, but I'm just dropping by to say crusade is not the core tenet of their beliefs. I don't like Christianity and I don't like abrahamic religions all together, but the one thing I dislike more than any of those is ignorance. I've read the bible, only so much of it is about crusades and hatred. I've never read the Qur'an, either, but I know for a fact it isn't a user's manual for Jihad. Following those religions means that you are adherent to the basis religion that commits the atrocities, but that doesn't mean you are committing them or a supporter of them. When a war happens, not everyone is a soldier in it, and not everyone supports the war happening. Like, for instance, you are a proponent of a Christian denomination, Gnosticism, which is an infallible truth unless you convert to another religion. Obviously, you're not a supporter of crusades, further proving my point that the followers of religions are not always supporters of every doctrine, commandment and action of their faith and members of their faith. I am a pagan who has met many hundreds of people who follow religions that command for my death, but that's just not what has happened, because they don't support those doctrines of their faith. I, a pagan, have plenty of atrocities committed by my people in the name of my faith that have occured in the past and have been rather well documented. I do not at all support those. Just because I am a pagan does not mean I blood eagle Christians and raid my neighbors. Just because someone is Muslim does not mean they support Jihad and report Intoxicant drinkers. Just because someone is Jewish does not mean they kill themselves for violating the Seven Laws or cover their hair after marriage for good. Seriously, these generalizations aren't going to get you anywhere.

TL;DR - Read it or leave it.

This is mostly correct but jihad is a core tenet of Al-Islam. Muslims commit jihad every waking second so not believing is jihad as a Muslim is ignorant and kufr (disbelief) or haram (unlawful/sinful).

[Reploid Productions]

Trawl in progress, standby.

I find that the Inquisitions were justified given the time and place. Spain was rooting out a Muslim and Jewish fifth column to solidify their Catholic state after reconquest of their land after many centuries of occupation by north Africans and the other people they brought with them. Spain was right to force them all back out. It was undoing a mistake of history. Spain shouldn't have fallen to invaders to begin with.

You're going to side with barbarians from the east that embraced the use of sexual slavery, over Iberian natives whose ancestors experienced Roman civilization?

This has nothing to do with the topic, don't try and threadjack.

Let me guess, you identify as Sunni?

Then you are part of the problem

You can start repenting by getting out of Yemen

Given your overall track record, particularly the bevy of warnings and bans you've picked up since October, I'm skipping the 3-day.

*** Pope Joan, 7-day ban for flaming/flamebait. ***

And last but hardly least:

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Translation: Theists support inquisitions/jihads and therefore support genocide and are basically murderers, and anybody who doesn't happen to agree with your opinions are basically supportive and complicit in said murder.

Nationstates is not your blog, nor is it the place to post bloggy anti-religious screeds that clearly are not interested in an actual discussion but are just about getting to climb up on your soapbox and yell at people who don't agree with you.

Yet most say they live by the Golden Rule. You are if you are anti-theist.

Translation: Only anti-theists live by the "Golden Rule", anyone else does not and is therefore some manner of immoral inferior. This post in isolation would probably not quite be actionable. Given the overall context and your history however, the intention to troll and flamebait is quite clear.

why do you seem to respect a religion that promotes genocide?

Trolling, flat out.

Why do you seem to respect and support murder?

Flamebait. A clearly loaded question such as this serves no other purpose than to get a cheap dig at your opponent rather than any actual debate.

All I need understand of jihads and inquisitions is that they often include murder, which does not seem to bother you.

More flamebait, basically saying "YOU SUPPORT MURDER!"

their core values are, such as their homophobia and misogyny, which is why they had to resort to inquisitions and jihads to grow.

More trolling, implying that core religious values are these things and that those who follow those faiths automatically embrace those values.

I am not at all tolerant of evil and proudly admit it.

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That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

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Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

More trolling.

I know you do not know why you respect evil actions that include murder.

More flamebait with the "YOU SUPPORT MURDER!" nonsense.

Take it from me that if you are not actively fighting the vile religions that are harming society as we speak, that your morals need improving.

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Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

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Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

And almost a literal copy/paste (spam) of a previous trolling post, with bonus flaming!

Yahweh/Jesus is a genocidal son murdering God. If you see him as something else, let's start looking at the morals Christianity has, starting with their homophobia and misogyny.

Watch this clip and see what moral men have to say first, then come and tell me what kind of God would torture and murder a baby, all because of his anger at the father.

More trolling/flamebait of the "if you don't agree with me you are my moral inferior" flavor.

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Do you approve of that genocidal thinking in both religions?

I have a lot more. Can you take the truth?

More trolling with a flimsy disguise of honest debate. You continue to word your "arguments" in the most outrageously inflammatory manner possible.

Come back and tell me why you idol worship a genocidal God that you can somehow see as good.

Be ready to discus morals and know that that is my forte after I studied why Christians used genocide to decimate the founders of my better than Christian religion.

Aaand more trolling.

Red herring.

I never said that taxes were collecte3d for churches. I will see your error as an accident and not a deliberate hypocritical deflection.

Non-theists subsidize the tax shortfall created by religions.

Religions should get their lousy hands out of the taxpayers pocket. They just show fairy tales for adults and should pay taxes like any other theatre.

There was a decent actual point of debate here, however it's pretty much lost in your constant antagonizing flamebaiting choice of phrasing.

Between your existing warning history and after looking over your posting conduct since your last ban and overall, it is clear that you are here not to engage with this community in any manner of constructive debate, but to scream from your soapbox at everyone else and proselytize your One True Faith while belittling everyone who disagrees with you. Nationstates is not your blog, it is not a place for you to scream "I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE ALL WRONG AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE STUPID/IMMORAL/ETC!" Given your persistent, aggressive, and completely unrepentant barrage of near-nonstop rulebreaking conduct, we're skipping the usual 7-day.

*** GnosticChristian, DEAT for trolling/flaming/flamebaiting. ***

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