Mankind's Deadliest Biological Weapon

[Xmara]

Or, instead of killing them, do what they’re doing with the feral cats in my neighborhood: catch, neuter/spay, release.

They actually do a favor for our neighborhood. We have a hoarder who lives on our block and the city isn’t doing anything about it. The cats go to his yard and catch rodents and other pests.

Check OP - it was brought up with the opening post. A lot of people are skeptical about it's actual effectiveness, what with studies showing dubious results, and demonstrating that 75% of any population would need to be sterilized in order for it to be effective.

Yeah but you’re still the one advocating for kitten drowning.

[Novus America]

We are not eliminating cats because they are a direct threat to humans, we are getting rid of feral cats and regulating pets so as to control the wanton environmental destruction they cause.

Or, instead of killing them, do what they’re doing with the feral cats in my neighborhood: catch, neuter/spay, release.

They actually do a favor for our neighborhood. We have a hoarder who lives on our block and the city isn’t doing anything about it. The cats go to his yard and catch rodents and other pests.

This is a good point. In many areas cats are needed to control vermin, many invasive and with no natural predators.

[Joohan]

Check OP - it was brought up with the opening post. A lot of people are skeptical about it's actual effectiveness, what with studies showing dubious results, and demonstrating that 75% of any population would need to be sterilized in order for it to be effective.

Yeah but you’re still the one advocating for kitten drowning.

As opposed to what? Endangering dozens of species and ecological disaster?

I mean, are you advocating for hatchling slaughter?

[Joohan]

Or, instead of killing them, do what they’re doing with the feral cats in my neighborhood: catch, neuter/spay, release.

They actually do a favor for our neighborhood. We have a hoarder who lives on our block and the city isn’t doing anything about it. The cats go to his yard and catch rodents and other pests.

This is a good point. In many areas cats are needed to control vermin, many invasive and with no natural predators.

Cats can be and are often helpful - but at the moment, across much the world, they are the chief concern for local ecology.

[Novus America]

Yeah but you’re still the one advocating for kitten drowning.

As opposed to what? Endangering dozens of species and ecological disaster?

I mean, are you advocating for hatchling slaughter?

There are much less cruel and more effective methods of animal control then drowning.

[Novus America]

This is a good point. In many areas cats are needed to control vermin, many invasive and with no natural predators.

Cats can be and are often helpful - but at the moment, across much the world, they are the chief concern for local ecology.

Sure, in many places they can be a problem. People should not just let their cats freely roam in most cases. And large feral cat populations in sensitive areas do need to be controlled.

[Joohan]

As opposed to what? Endangering dozens of species and ecological disaster?

I mean, are you advocating for hatchling slaughter?

There are much less cruel and more effective methods of animal control then drowning.

Sure. I am not saying that it should be the only way. But it shouldn't be banned either.

[Xmara]

As opposed to what? Endangering dozens of species and ecological disaster?

I mean, are you advocating for hatchling slaughter?

There are much less cruel and more effective methods of animal control then drowning.

This.

I’m still convinced that sterilizing feral cats is the best way to control the population. As for pets, encourage cat owners to keep kitties indoors. If they must be let outdoors, there are pens that are designed so cats can enjoy the outdoors and not escape and kill small animals. Oh, and encourage them to spay/neuter their pets.

[Novus America]

There are much less cruel and more effective methods of animal control then drowning.

Sure. I am not saying that it should be the only way. But it shouldn't be banned either.

I have no problem with banning unnecessary animal cruelty when better options exist.

[Joohan]

Sure. I am not saying that it should be the only way. But it shouldn't be banned either.

I have no problem with banning unnecessary animal cruelty when better options exist.

They don't exist for all people. Sometimes, it's the easiest and quickest way to deal with an unwanted brood

[Joohan]

There are much less cruel and more effective methods of animal control then drowning.

This.

I’m still convinced that sterilizing feral cats is the best way to control the population. As for pets, encourage cat owners to keep kitties indoors. If they must be let outdoors, there are pens that are designed so cats can enjoy the outdoors and not escape and kill small animals. Oh, and encourage them to spay/neuter their pets.

Regardless of how you feel - the evidence points towards more drastic measures needing to be taken.

[Novus America]

I have no problem with banning unnecessary animal cruelty when better options exist.

They don't exist for all people. Sometimes, it's the easiest and quickest way to deal with an unwanted brood

It is not a particularly easy and quick way. For most people in areas with a functioning government there are better ways.

[Scomagia]

I have no problem with banning unnecessary animal cruelty when better options exist.

They don't exist for all people. Sometimes, it's the easiest and quickest way to deal with an unwanted brood

Not to be macabre but even blunt force trauma would be preferable to drowning.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

They don't exist for all people. Sometimes, it's the easiest and quickest way to deal with an unwanted brood

Not to be macabre but even blunt force trauma would be preferable to drowning.

Eh, drowning is a pretty calm way to go.

[Novus America]

Not to be macabre but even blunt force trauma would be preferable to drowning.

Eh, drowning is a pretty calm way to go.

Not at all.
It takes a few minutes of horrible torture to drown.
If you just embrace it and do not fight it goes more quickly.
But obviously an animal is not going to do that.

It will try to survive as long as it can.

[Sovaal]

Seems like an argument for loosening up controls on small caliber firearms.

...What kinda twisted motherfucker would shoot a goddamn cat!?

People do worse things to them all the time. I’d rather they shoot them. Not enough people out there willing to adopt strays.

[Costa Fierro]

As opposed to what? Endangering dozens of species and ecological disaster?

I mean, are you advocating for hatchling slaughter?

To be frank though, birds have dozens of natural predators in areas where they evolved to live with mammalian predators. It's not like where I live where our birds evolved with no mammalian predators at all.

Or, instead of killing them, do what they’re doing with the feral cats in my neighborhood: catch, neuter/spay, release.

They actually do a favor for our neighborhood. We have a hoarder who lives on our block and the city isn’t doing anything about it. The cats go to his yard and catch rodents and other pests.

That's fine in areas where cats are somewhat necessary, but it's not a solution that could be implemented everywhere.

...What kinda twisted motherfucker would shoot a goddamn cat!?

The wildlife sanctuary I volunteer at hired a hunter to remove most of the larger pests within the fence before we conducted poison drops. Among those he killed were feral cats. Furthermore, the cats get big enough that normal traps won't deal with them, so the only way to get rid of them is to shoot them.