What is there to be confused about? You are aware that in the US besides Muslims atheists are one of the most hated groups? You are aware that it is practically impossible in most parts of the US for an atheist to be elected? You are aware that atheists have dealt with theists trying to force them to follow their religion through the force of law. YOu do realize that untill relatively recently atheists where killed for being atheist. That the term godless is a pejorative?Erythrean Thebes wrote:Ifreann wrote:Whose idea was it to call God omnipotent because he can go anywhere?
If I tried to sell people an omnipotent car they'd be pretty mad to learn that what I meant was "off-roader".
If anything, this is why the level of vitriol from atheist advocacy confuses me and even agitates me sometimes.
That makes no sense. Why would a document inspired by a perfect being need to be cherry picked?If you adhere to any logically consistent formula of the religion, it obviously necessitates some form of cherry-picking things to account for the fact that no material events as we observe follow an always consistent pattern.
Tell that to the people who where killed because they where not of a specific religion. Tell that to the Jews who dealt with centuries of persecution due to not being Christian. Tell that to the slaves, whose "masters" supported slavery because of the things they "cherry picked" from the bible.I don't think there's any way to deny that Christian theologians, before scepticism, did exactly this. Originally, in the Roman era, they were basically famed for this. I feel that should take away whatever is intellectually threatening about the religion, but unfortunately not, I gather.
No that is what we are told by the theists when we ask them what they mean by god. When the issues or omnipotence are pointed out the theist then moves the goal post...over and over and over again.The number-one fallacy of atheist arguments is that they gravitate directly onto formulated principles - "God is omnipotent."
That does not contradict the idea that got is omnipotent.But that's a misunderstanding of the Bible. The Bible is a chronological narrative which explains, one plot development at a time, how the relationship between God and man as it is today came into being.
WHy did god create a being that had intrinsic evil in it?"God is omnipotent," totally misses the real creed of the religion, which is more like "God created a perfect world; the intrinsic evil of humanity ruined it;
If you read the story Noah was far from pure hearted, and that of course ignores all the infants as well as all the animals who had nothing to do with God.God turned to hate mankind and planned to destroy them; a remarkably purehearted individual named Noah impressed God;
Sounds like a shit god. Oh and that ignores that the great flood as described in the bible never happened.God saved the line of Noah out of begrudging pity for him to create a new human lineage;
WHy was his design flawed in the first place?the corrupted shadow of our species then began to stumble through history in a mix of both piety and arrogance; God took pity on various pure souls, who reminded of Noah, and gave them assistance to foster what he hoped could be the resurrection of his original design for humanity; Israel was founded, but continued to struggle with the intrinsic evil in their hearts; Israel fell because the sin in man overcame his residual piety;
Prove it.Jesus emerged and began speaking as God on Earth;
So God sacrificed himself to himself in order to quiet his anger for his own mistakes.mankind was triggered by the return of God and, being largely evil, were triggered to lash out and murder him because of their evil; Jesus successfully enduring their hatred and going to his grave in totally obedience to God established the model of a way for others to follow in his footsteps and also be redeemed of their sin."