US Government Shutdown- It's Over!... For Now

[Telconi]

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

Border patrol has K9 units, deary.

Please don't call me that.

[The Rich Port]

You need to stop taking rhetoric analogy notes from Donald Trump.

Border Patrol has K9 units, so.

https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/alo ... ciplines-2

And this is relevant how?

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

[Eastfield Lodge]

And this is relevant how?

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

Apparently, he's saying that what currently exists is like having a small poodle guarding your house. Deterrence to some burglars but not enough. What you need is a big ol' Rottweiler to really put the burglars off, and and apparently that role can filled by the wall.

[Valrifell]

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

Apparently, he's saying that what currently exists is like having a small poodle guarding your house. Deterrence to some burglars but not enough. What you need is a big ol' Rottweiler to really put the burglars off, and and apparently that role can filled by the wall.

Well, until the wall gets covered with graffiti tags of Putin and Trump making out.

[Telconi]

And this is relevant how?

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

That you have evidently failed to understand.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

And this is relevant how?

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

That's how analogies work.

Their point was migrants wouldn't have any other choices in country so they'd sooner try and cross the wall than not.

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

Apparently, he's saying that what currently exists is like having a small poodle guarding your house. Deterrence to some burglars but not enough. What you need is a big ol' Rottweiler to really put the burglars off, and and apparently that role can filled by the wall.

You're all missing the point of the analogy. Holy shit how can so many people not understand this analogy?

[The Rich Port]

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

Apparently, he's saying that what currently exists is like having a small poodle guarding your house. Deterrence to some burglars but not enough. What you need is a big ol' Rottweiler to really put the burglars off, and and apparently that role can filled by the wall.

Guess what, that's not how analogies work.

You want an analogy?

The Trump Wall is like building a concrete bunker around your house to stop gophers from burrowing in your garden.

They're gonna burrow under the wall, or fly over it, or use the lake behind your house to come in.

[Telconi]

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

That's how analogies work.

Their point was migrants wouldn't have any other choices in country so they'd sooner try and cross the wall than not.

Apparently, he's saying that what currently exists is like having a small poodle guarding your house. Deterrence to some burglars but not enough. What you need is a big ol' Rottweiler to really put the burglars off, and and apparently that role can filled by the wall.

You're all missing the point of the analogy. Holy shit how can so many people not understand this analogy?

Vested interest in misunderstanding.

[The Black Forrest]

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

Desperation will outweigh deterrence. If you are pretty much going to die and or loose your kids, you are going to go for it. The great wall of donnie will not stop the problem.

[Telconi]

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

Desperation will outweigh deterrence. If you are pretty much going to die and or loose your kids, you are going to go for it. The great wall of donnie will not stop the problem.

Indeed.

[The Rich Port]

I don't know, it's your stupid analogy.

So you're saying that this dog in your analogy isn't a dog, but a wall?

That's how analogies work.

Their point was migrants wouldn't have any other choices in country so they'd sooner try and cross the wall than not.

Apparently, he's saying that what currently exists is like having a small poodle guarding your house. Deterrence to some burglars but not enough. What you need is a big ol' Rottweiler to really put the burglars off, and and apparently that role can filled by the wall.

You're all missing the point of the analogy. Holy shit how can so many people not understand this analogy?

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

... Except that's not at all what he explained his analogy to mean. The wall is a deterrent, meant to DISCOURAGE immigrants from coming to America. It's a shitty analogy because it's using a different facet of a security system to do it. A dog is a dog, not a wall. A guard dog is indeed a deterrent... And America the country has guard dogs.

Except it's not, but I guess that doesn't matter to fuckin' anybody.

A better analogy would have been "Not having a wall is like having 3 walls to a house instead of 4". Now that's a shitty analogy as well... But it's better.

[Telconi]

That's how analogies work.

Their point was migrants wouldn't have any other choices in country so they'd sooner try and cross the wall than not.

You're all missing the point of the analogy. Holy shit how can so many people not understand this analogy?

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

... Except that's not at all what he explained his analogy to mean. The wall is a deterrent, meant to DISCOURAGE immigrants from coming to America. It's a shitty analogy because it's using a different facet of a security system to do it. A dog is a dog, not a wall. A guard dog is indeed a deterrent... And America the country has guard dogs.

Except it's not, but I guess that doesn't matter to fuckin' anybody.

A better analogy would have been "Not having a wall is like having 3 walls to a house instead of 4". Now that's a shitty analogy as well... But it's better.

You quite evidently didn't understand the explanation, and have instead hung up on dogs being dogs, and therefore the same.

[The Rich Port]

... Except that's not at all what he explained his analogy to mean. The wall is a deterrent, meant to DISCOURAGE immigrants from coming to America. It's a shitty analogy because it's using a different facet of a security system to do it. A dog is a dog, not a wall. A guard dog is indeed a deterrent... And America the country has guard dogs.

Except it's not, but I guess that doesn't matter to fuckin' anybody.

A better analogy would have been "Not having a wall is like having 3 walls to a house instead of 4". Now that's a shitty analogy as well... But it's better.

You quite evidently didn't understand the explanation, and have instead hung up on dogs being dogs, and therefore the same.

And you're hung up on a stupid analogy.

The wall isn't a deterrent, marginal or otherwise.

Moving on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 73418566a9

Trump's dictator boner shrinks back.

"Congress should do this". OK.

[Telconi]

You quite evidently didn't understand the explanation, and have instead hung up on dogs being dogs, and therefore the same.

And you're hung up on a stupid analogy.

The wall isn't a deterrent, marginal or otherwise.

Moving on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 73418566a9

Trump's dictator boner shrinks back.

"Congress should do this". OK.

This is the fucking point...

[Cannot think of a name]

Trump won't even negotiate with his own fucking party.

President Donald Trump has rejected a plan proposed by a bloc of Senate Republicans who had hoped to break an impasse over the government shutdown, leaving Congress and the White House with little obvious way out of the extended battle over Trump's border wall.

Also, worth remembering...

Plus, Democrats were highly skeptical. They all remember the president and his allies ripping up a tentative agreement providing $25 billion in border security in exchange for a path to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of Dreamers.

“You saw what happened last time. Trump backed out,” said Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Trump won't even negotiate with his own fucking party.

President Donald Trump has rejected a plan proposed by a bloc of Senate Republicans who had hoped to break an impasse over the government shutdown, leaving Congress and the White House with little obvious way out of the extended battle over Trump's border wall.

Also, worth remembering...

Plus, Democrats were highly skeptical. They all remember the president and his allies ripping up a tentative agreement providing $25 billion in border security in exchange for a path to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of Dreamers.

“You saw what happened last time. Trump backed out,” said Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).

First of all, Mr. President...

This is not how to authoritarian, not at all.

Second of all, you've gone completely rogue and will most likely be removed from the premises not by the Dems, but by your own damn party!

[Infected Mushroom]

Maybe it will go on for 28 days

[Zapato]

So.. the shutdown is all the fault of FOX News ?

I've been a little behind on this, show clip please? I'm sure it's like on Youtube or something.

Trump 'Fell in Line Behind Sean Hannity': Retiring Republican Says Trump Changed Mind on Border Wall Because of Cable Host

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said last Tuesday that the president was willing to sacrifice his $5 billion demand for a border wall in order to keep the government open. Trump later changed his stance, leading to a government shutdown after Democrats and Republicans failed to compromise on a spending bill.

"The Senate voted 100-0 to pass a clean CR [continuing resolution] and sent it to the House," Costello, a Republican, said while speaking on MSNBC, referring to a stopgap measure that passed through the Senate Wednesday but did not include money for the wall.

"Sean Hannity and a few other people screamed fire. The president then fell in line behind Sean Hannity."

[The Black Forrest]

Trump won't even negotiate with his own fucking party.

Also, worth remembering...

First of all, Mr. President...

This is not how to authoritarian, not at all.

Second of all, you've gone completely rogue and will most likely be removed from the premises not by the Dems, but by your own damn party!

His own party? Hmmmm? Probably not. The GOP, the tea party are gone its the party of trump. They are afraid of him. They may call him a poopoo head; when it's time to vote they usually fall in line.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Trump won't even negotiate with his own fucking party.

President Donald Trump has rejected a plan proposed by a bloc of Senate Republicans who had hoped to break an impasse over the government shutdown, leaving Congress and the White House with little obvious way out of the extended battle over Trump's border wall.

Also, worth remembering...

Plus, Democrats were highly skeptical. They all remember the president and his allies ripping up a tentative agreement providing $25 billion in border security in exchange for a path to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of Dreamers.

“You saw what happened last time. Trump backed out,” said Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).

Completely fucking idiotic move.

The man is either an idiot or delusional.

Maybe it will go on for 28 days

We will build a wall and the rage infectees will pay for it.

[Wallenburg]

Trump won't even negotiate with his own fucking party.

Also, worth remembering...

First of all, Mr. President...

This is not how to authoritarian, not at all.

Second of all, you've gone completely rogue and will most likely be removed from the premises not by the Dems, but by your own damn party!

Seeing as congressional Republicans could easily reopen the government sans border wall if they really wanted to, this is little more than another scene in the last month of political theater.

[Cannot think of a name]

First of all, Mr. President...

This is not how to authoritarian, not at all.

Second of all, you've gone completely rogue and will most likely be removed from the premises not by the Dems, but by your own damn party!

Seeing as congressional Republicans could easily reopen the government sans border wall if they really wanted to, this is little more than another scene in the last month of political theater.

This might be the theater they have to go through in order to sell their undermining the President at this point. They have to make the college try to meet the president so they can go, "Look, we tried to meet his needs and he wasn't agreeable so we had to turn to the democrats to get this done."

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Seeing as congressional Republicans could easily reopen the government sans border wall if they really wanted to, this is little more than another scene in the last month of political theater.

This might be the theater they have to go through in order to sell their undermining the President at this point. They have to make the college try to meet the president so they can go, "Look, we tried to meet his needs and he wasn't agreeable so we had to turn to the democrats to get this done."

...I am starting to consider the theory that the establishment Republicans have begun to plot against him.

[Big Jim P]

Maybe it will go on for 28 days

Well, we've proven we can get by without 25% of the government. Now lets try for 50%.

Oh, and if Congress got off their asses and passed a budget instead of this temporary funding bullshit, we might avoid these shutdowns in the future.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Oh, and if Congress got off their asses and passed a budget instead of this temporary funding bullshit, we might avoid these shutdowns in the future.

Or Trump could have just not shut down the government.