Weighting Rural Votes?/Election Reform

[Ors Might]

If someone votes for a fucking Nazi, I have zero respect for their vote. They have every right to cast that vote but the person themselves can get bent.

BeCaUsE tHeY dIsAgReE wItH yOu?

In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.

[Telconi]

BeCaUsE tHeY dIsAgReE wItH yOu?

In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.

Which is essentially the point. To boil everything down to agreement and disagreement is preposterous.

For example, I disagree with people who like the New York Jets. I also disagree with people who want to exterminate Jews, to treat both disagreements equally is preposterous.

[Ors Might]

In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.

Which is essentially the point. To boil everything down to agreement and disagreement is preposterous.

For example, I disagree with people who like the New York Jets. I also disagree with people who want to exterminate Jews, to treat both disagreements equally is preposterous.

Tfw the tolerance paradox means you have to respect the Nazi Party of America

[The Two Jerseys]

BeCaUsE tHeY dIsAgReE wItH yOu?

In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.

Someone once told me about these two doctors they knew at a hospital: one was German and one was Russian, and both of them lived through World War II.

Apparently they couldn't be on the same floor of the building at the same time, because if one of them so much as saw the other, shit would get real ugly.

[Telconi]

Which is essentially the point. To boil everything down to agreement and disagreement is preposterous.

For example, I disagree with people who like the New York Jets. I also disagree with people who want to exterminate Jews, to treat both disagreements equally is preposterous.

Tfw the tolerance paradox means you have to respect the Nazi Party of America

Yeah, the tolerance paradox can go to hell. I have no obligation to tolerate intolerant acts.

[Ors Might]

In all seriousness, depending on the context, a “disagreement” can be a perfect reason to hate somebody.

Someone once told me about these two doctors they knew at a hospital: one was German and one was Russian, and both of them lived through World War II.

Apparently they couldn't be on the same floor of the building at the same time, because if one of them so much as saw the other, shit would get real ugly.

They just had a simple disagreement *nods*

[San Lumen]

Yes it does. Someone in San Francisco has equal right to vote as someone in Telconi's town does.

And that is a stupid argument. Why should the minority decide who your executive is? You had an election your candidate lost.

If someone votes for a fucking Nazi, I have zero respect for their vote. They have every right to cast that vote but the person themselves can get bent.

I agree with you on that. A literal Nazi was on the ballot in Illinois 3rd district. He stood little chance of winning but how he got a single vote is beyond my understanding

Yes it does. Someone in San Francisco has equal right to vote as someone in Telconi's town does.

And that is a stupid argument. Why should the minority decide who your executive is? You had an election your candidate lost.

Literally in one post, you defend the idea that everyone's beliefs deserve respect, and then state that my alleged beliefs (which aren't actually my beliefs) are stupid.

Perhaps you could at least pretend to have some level of consistency...

They do deserve respect and that is why we have this thing called elections and why you have a representative just like San Francisco does to advocate for your beliefs

[Ors Might]

Tfw the tolerance paradox means you have to respect the Nazi Party of America

Yeah, the tolerance paradox can go to hell. I have no obligation to tolerate intolerant acts.

The tolerance paradox is pretty simple to solve if you don’t consider tolerance an inherent virtue.

[Ors Might]

If someone votes for a fucking Nazi, I have zero respect for their vote. They have every right to cast that vote but the person themselves can get bent.

I agree with you on that. A literal Nazi was on the ballot in Illinois 3rd district. He stood little chance of winning but how he got a single vote is beyond my understanding

Literally in one post, you defend the idea that everyone's beliefs deserve respect, and then state that my alleged beliefs (which aren't actually my beliefs) are stupid.

Perhaps you could at least pretend to have some level of consistency...

They do deserve respect and that is why we have this thing called elections and why you have a representative just like San Francisco does to advocate for your beliefs

So then you don’t think that all usage of ones rights are equally deserving of respect.

[Telconi]

If someone votes for a fucking Nazi, I have zero respect for their vote. They have every right to cast that vote but the person themselves can get bent.

I agree with you on that. A literal Nazi was on the ballot in Illinois 3rd district. He stood little chance of winning but how he got a single vote is beyond my understanding

Literally in one post, you defend the idea that everyone's beliefs deserve respect, and then state that my alleged beliefs (which aren't actually my beliefs) are stupid.

Perhaps you could at least pretend to have some level of consistency...

They do deserve respect and that is why we have this thing called elections and why you have a representative just like San Francisco does to advocate for your beliefs

You just agreed with a belief the opposite of what you just told me...

[San Lumen]

I agree with you on that. A literal Nazi was on the ballot in Illinois 3rd district. He stood little chance of winning but how he got a single vote is beyond my understanding

They do deserve respect and that is why we have this thing called elections and why you have a representative just like San Francisco does to advocate for your beliefs

You just agreed with a belief the opposite of what you just told me...

How did I do that?

[Telconi]

You just agreed with a belief the opposite of what you just told me...

How did I do that?

You agreed that a vote for a Nazi shouldn't be respected, and yet you say that every vote should be respected.

So which is it?

[Ors Might]

How did I do that?

You agreed that a vote for a Nazi shouldn't be respected, and yet you say that every vote should be respected.

So which is it?

Maybe he’s operating under the premise that Nazis don’t count as people.

[San Lumen]

How did I do that?

You agreed that a vote for a Nazi shouldn't be respected, and yet you say that every vote should be respected.

So which is it?

Everyone has a equal right to vote regardless of being on a farm or if they reside in a big city. If they choose to vote for a Nazi that is their right but I am under no obligation to respect that person but their vote should be

[Telconi]

You agreed that a vote for a Nazi shouldn't be respected, and yet you say that every vote should be respected.

So which is it?

Everyone has a equal right to vote regardless of being on a farm or if they reside in a big city. If they choose to vote for a Nazi that is their right but I am under no obligation to respect that person but their vote should be

Would you perhaps say that those who vote for Nazis are "bad people"?

[San Lumen]

Everyone has a equal right to vote regardless of being on a farm or if they reside in a big city. If they choose to vote for a Nazi that is their right but I am under no obligation to respect that person but their vote should be

Would you perhaps say that those who vote for Nazis are "bad people"?

Unequivocally yes

[Telconi]

Would you perhaps say that those who vote for Nazis are "bad people"?

Unequivocally yes

So why do you get to have these beliefs and not me?

[Thermodolia]

I care about important things, how terrible of me.

Because the road building is literally an example of things that don't matter, how you pay for the roads that don't matter doesn't matter...

Its the single thing you believe is important

How does road building not matter? If state highways crumble how can the trucking industry function?

I am not following your line of thought here. Are you saying you dont care if highways fall apart?

So the state does what it’s supposed to do? And I’m supposed to think that doing the bare minimum is fine?

[Thermodolia]

And that means you have to respect how they use that right?

Yes it does. Someone in San Francisco has equal right to vote as someone in Telconi's town does.

No it doesn’t. I don’t have to respect fucking nazis or enemies of the workers

[Wallenburg]

5 pages since my last post and people are still talking about Nazis. Is there really no other way you all can communicate your ideas outside the scope of Nazism?

[Telconi]

5 pages since my last post and people are still talking about Nazis. Is there really no other way you all can communicate your ideas outside the scope of Nazism?

Fitting comparisons are fitting.

[Kubra]

5 pages since my last post and people are still talking about Nazis. Is there really no other way you all can communicate your ideas outside the scope of Nazism?

This thread was silly before, it's even sillier now.
First as tragedy, then as farce.

[Doing it Rightland]

You clearly do not understand how budgets work. A lawmaker from a rural county advocates for what they need and the same goes for one from a urban area. The budget is put together with input from everyone. Dividing funds out based on need is whats already done.

Hi, me again. I do understand how budgets work; I said the following yesterday, demonstrating that I too am not an idiot, and that I am well aware that the division of funds is already happening.

...the state would continue to tax that stuff, and simply divide out the funds proportionately according to each county's needs...

Next,

Plus you can't simply have all the counties just raise taxes. In some rural counties its simply not feasible.

Then the state does the taxing. That's one of the options I gave.

[San Lumen]

Yes it does. Someone in San Francisco has equal right to vote as someone in Telconi's town does.

No it doesn’t. I don’t have to respect fucking nazis or enemies of the workers

No one said you had to respect Nazis

You clearly do not understand how budgets work. A lawmaker from a rural county advocates for what they need and the same goes for one from a urban area. The budget is put together with input from everyone. Dividing funds out based on need is whats already done.

Hi, me again. I do understand how budgets work; I said the following yesterday, demonstrating that I too am not an idiot, and that I am well aware that the division of funds is already happening.

...the state would continue to tax that stuff, and simply divide out the funds proportionately according to each county's needs...

Next,

Plus you can't simply have all the counties just raise taxes. In some rural counties its simply not feasible.

Then the state does the taxing. That's one of the options I gave.

If you know that I don’t understand why we need the changes your proposing which aren’t practical

[Wallenburg]

5 pages since my last post and people are still talking about Nazis. Is there really no other way you all can communicate your ideas outside the scope of Nazism?

Fitting comparisons are fitting.

I mean, I agree that there are some political similarities between the Nazis and those who oppose democracy in favor of rule by a select few, but that's still a very unfair comparison to jump to.