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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
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Postby Germanic Templars » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:18 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:Welp, looks like it's time to reclassify coat hangers as machine guns like they are trying to do with a plastic stock.

y tho?

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:03 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Welp, looks like it's time to reclassify coat hangers as machine guns like they are trying to do with a plastic stock.

y tho?

It's shows those who think that banning bump stocks will stop mass shootings or what not are wrong. And that humans are incredibly ingenious at innovating work arounds to authoritarian laws.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:03 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Welp, looks like it's time to reclassify coat hangers as machine guns like they are trying to do with a plastic stock.

I like the disclaimer at the end.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:49 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:y tho?

It's shows those who think that banning bump stocks will stop mass shootings or what not are wrong. And that humans are incredibly ingenious at innovating work arounds to authoritarian laws.


Then perhaps best course of action would be removing laws that are shit.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:51 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:It's shows those who think that banning bump stocks will stop mass shootings or what not are wrong. And that humans are incredibly ingenious at innovating work arounds to authoritarian laws.


Then perhaps best course of action would be removing laws that are shit.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:41 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Welp, looks like it's time to reclassify coat hangers as machine guns like they are trying to do with a plastic stock.

I like the disclaimer at the end.

Gotta make sure a CYA is included to appease them lawyer types.

In other news, looks like the usual worthless cunts have decided to introduce yet again another (insert made up firearm class) weapons ban, seems this one is a touch worse than the previous one these worthless cunts and waste of O2 introduced last year.
BREAKING: Diane Feinstein’s New Assault Weapons Ban Bill Is Worse Than Ever
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:43 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Welp, looks like it's time to reclassify coat hangers as machine guns like they are trying to do with a plastic stock.


Hmmmm…
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Welp, looks like it's time to reclassify coat hangers as machine guns like they are trying to do with a plastic stock.


Hmmmm…

Hmmm, indeed. When I first saw the picture of it before clicking the link to read up on it, the first thing that came to my mind was that is looked a lot like a lightning link.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:45 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:We already do that with a 20-to-50 year history regarding all FFL-transfers (50 for NFA items iirc).

Because one never knows when someone dusts off that Stg-44 and a crate of 80 year old ammo for a bank-robbery.

I'd be very concerned if someone used 80 year old ammo I'd say listen you got money so go buy some got damn ammo and throw that shit away no need to for the desperation.

I’d say the most successful criminal would never actual have to use the gun.
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:48 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I like the disclaimer at the end.

Gotta make sure a CYA is included to appease them lawyer types.

In other news, looks like the usual worthless cunts have decided to introduce yet again another (insert made up firearm class) weapons ban, seems this one is a touch worse than the previous one these worthless cunts and waste of O2 introduced last year.
BREAKING: Diane Feinstein’s New Assault Weapons Ban Bill Is Worse Than Ever

I love the bit about "assault pistols"(whatever the fuck those are) being transformed into "assault rifles" through the use of gun braces. That's not how guns work, Diane. :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:48 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hmmmm…

Hmmm, indeed. When I first saw the picture of it before clicking the link to read up on it, the first thing that came to my mind was that is looked a lot like a lightning link.


I think I might give it a try when NFA branch is reopened tbh.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:50 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Gotta make sure a CYA is included to appease them lawyer types.

In other news, looks like the usual worthless cunts have decided to introduce yet again another (insert made up firearm class) weapons ban, seems this one is a touch worse than the previous one these worthless cunts and waste of O2 introduced last year.
BREAKING: Diane Feinstein’s New Assault Weapons Ban Bill Is Worse Than Ever

I love the bit about "assault pistols"(whatever the fuck those are) being transformed into "assault rifles" through the use of gun braces. That's not how guns work, Diane. :rofl: :rofl:

Well she’s already got every other talking going in there, might as well use something new I guess.

I also like how they act like you couldn’t possibly ever shoot up a place with a gun without a idiot grip. Like how the duck can anyone read that and think it’s rational?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:51 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Gotta make sure a CYA is included to appease them lawyer types.

In other news, looks like the usual worthless cunts have decided to introduce yet again another (insert made up firearm class) weapons ban, seems this one is a touch worse than the previous one these worthless cunts and waste of O2 introduced last year.
BREAKING: Diane Feinstein’s New Assault Weapons Ban Bill Is Worse Than Ever

I love the bit about "assault pistols"(whatever the fuck those are) being transformed into "assault rifles" through the use of gun braces. That's not how guns work, Diane. :rofl: :rofl:

At this point, they are throwing anything and everything at the wall and see what sticks, logic and facts be damned, full speed ahead with the lies and emotional train and hope the average public citizen is just as equally ignorant/stupid.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:55 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I love the bit about "assault pistols"(whatever the fuck those are) being transformed into "assault rifles" through the use of gun braces. That's not how guns work, Diane. :rofl: :rofl:

At this point, they are throwing anything and everything at the wall and see what sticks, logic and facts be damned, full speed ahead with the lies and emotional train and hope the average public citizen is just as equally ignorant/stupid.

Yeah, it's really astounding how asinine and ignorant these politicians are. And the made up categories....

Can someone explain to me what the hell an "assault pistol" is even supposed to be? It sounds like something they literally made up for the bill, since I've never seen that term before.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:56 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I love the bit about "assault pistols"(whatever the fuck those are) being transformed into "assault rifles" through the use of gun braces. That's not how guns work, Diane. :rofl: :rofl:

At this point, they are throwing anything and everything at the wall and see what sticks, logic and facts be damned, full speed ahead with the lies and emotional train and hope the average public citizen is just as equally ignorant/stupid.

This is why firearms safety courses should be mandatory for high school students. That way, we can get rid of at least some of the ignorance.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:57 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:At this point, they are throwing anything and everything at the wall and see what sticks, logic and facts be damned, full speed ahead with the lies and emotional train and hope the average public citizen is just as equally ignorant/stupid.

Yeah, it's really astounding how asinine and ignorant these politicians are. And the made up categories....

Can someone explain to me what the hell an "assault pistol" is even supposed to be? It sounds like something they literally made up for the bill, since I've never seen that term before.


It's existed since the 80's and originally applied to Tec-9's, MAC's and various other SMG style pistols.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:00 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:At this point, they are throwing anything and everything at the wall and see what sticks, logic and facts be damned, full speed ahead with the lies and emotional train and hope the average public citizen is just as equally ignorant/stupid.

Yeah, it's really astounding how asinine and ignorant these politicians are. And the made up categories....

Can someone explain to me what the hell an "assault pistol" is even supposed to be? It sounds like something they literally made up for the bill, since I've never seen that term before.

Assault Pistol as·​sault | \ə-ˈsȯlt - pis·​tol | \ˈpi-stᵊl (n): A entirely made up class of firearm that includes a magazine that holds more than 1 round, functions in a semi-automatic action, is usually black in color, with the ability to shoot through 9" thick concrete walls and melt steel just by a ricochet. Sometimes includes optics, laser sight, flash light, flash suppressor, and/or a brace.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:03 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Yeah, it's really astounding how asinine and ignorant these politicians are. And the made up categories....

Can someone explain to me what the hell an "assault pistol" is even supposed to be? It sounds like something they literally made up for the bill, since I've never seen that term before.


It's existed since the 80's and originally applied to Tec-9's, MAC's and various other SMG style pistols.

Ah, the "scary" guns of the eighties. Makes sense.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:05 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Yeah, it's really astounding how asinine and ignorant these politicians are. And the made up categories....

Can someone explain to me what the hell an "assault pistol" is even supposed to be? It sounds like something they literally made up for the bill, since I've never seen that term before.

Assault Pistol as·​sault | \ə-ˈsȯlt - pis·​tol | \ˈpi-stᵊl (n): A entirely made up class of firearm that includes a magazine that holds more than 1 round, functions in a semi-automatic action, is usually black in color, with the ability to shoot through 9" thick concrete walls and melt steel just by a ricochet. Sometimes includes optics, laser sight, flash light, flash suppressor, and/or a brace.

:rofl:
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:05 pm

I wonder if the ranch style Mini 14 will be exempt by name while the “tactical versions” banned.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:28 pm

Sovaal wrote:I wonder if the ranch style Mini 14 will be exempt by name while the “tactical versions” banned.

Well since it does keep the form of firearms of yore, it could be exempt.
I'm still at a loss in how someone can think that if a firearm looks differently than those of yesteryear, that it is somehow capable of being extra super duper deadlier. Does looks = function to these people?
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Hmmm, indeed. When I first saw the picture of it before clicking the link to read up on it, the first thing that came to my mind was that is looked a lot like a lightning link.


I think I might give it a try when NFA branch is reopened tbh.

Post pics if you do.
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Socialism- the herpes of economic systems.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:30 pm

Just don't ban any guns anywhere. Simple.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:32 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Just don't ban/regulate any firearms anywhere. Simple.

FTFY. 8)
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I prefer Dangerous Freedom over peaceful slavery! Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Gun-Control is the belief that declawing the cat will protect it against other animals; also why are anti-gun people so violent?
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Socialism- the herpes of economic systems.
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The made up term "toxic masculinity" is founded on nonsense psychologism

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