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by An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:24 am
by Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:25 am
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
by Greater Germany » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:25 am
Reikoku wrote:Nature or the universe seems to me to be the only thing which can justifiably be called God, since everything originates inside of it, and everything forms a co-dependent relationship with other natural objects.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:26 am
Greater Germany wrote:Reikoku wrote:Nature or the universe seems to me to be the only thing which can justifiably be called God, since everything originates inside of it, and everything forms a co-dependent relationship with other natural objects.
This kinda fits for me.
I don't really believe in the classic Abrahamic "guy with a beard and robe that looks like a human and makes petty-seeming decisions" sort of god. But the universe, and the unknown within it, that we try to learn more about and draw our origins from, feel like a god of the natural which gives us inspiration and motivation.
Something something the first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you, etc.
by New Excalibus » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:28 am
by Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:29 am
New Excalibus wrote:The only true god is our lord and savior the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Kidding, kidding.
I don't believe in god because his existence is both unable to be proved false and unable to be proved true.
Plus, apparently god was on the German side in WWII, and that seems a bit wrong to me.
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
by Nuclear Wastelands » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:30 am
by Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:33 am
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
by Alvecia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:38 am
by Tasuirin » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:43 am
Nuclear Wastelands wrote:Religion has helped me through rough times where being an Atheist is more of a hindrance.
by The New California Republic » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:44 am
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Do we have a general theology thread? like not specifically for just muslims or christians or what have you but just for the debate and discussion of theology as a whole? I fso could someone hit me up with a link?
by Tasuirin » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:49 am
by Tillania » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:53 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Maybe the lack of evidence is evidence in and of itself.
by The New California Republic » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:54 am
Sindhia wrote:My religion Hinduism tells me that everything that aids in your progress is God.
by Randsidia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:55 am
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Honestly though, if we live in a truly infinite universe then nothing is truly falsifiable.... everything is based on faith.... for example, we can say here on earth that physics work in a certain way but it takes faith for us to say that physics truly works that way everywhere.... Really we have to have faith that the universe is finite just for science to hold any meaning on a universal scale
by Holy Tedalonia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:55 am
by Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:56 am
Sindhia wrote:I do believe in God. My religion Hinduism tells me that everything that aids in your progress is God.(That solely accounts to the 2 million gods in Hinduism)
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
by Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:01 am
The issue I have is what is it expanding into? Yes, science holds meaning based on observable fact so you have a point im just saying that if whatever the universe is expanding into is likely to have different principles just as its likely different principles existed before the big bang... essentially all im saying is that anything can exist its just impossible to prove said existence within our current scope of the universeRandsidia wrote:Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Honestly though, if we live in a truly infinite universe then nothing is truly falsifiable.... everything is based on faith.... for example, we can say here on earth that physics work in a certain way but it takes faith for us to say that physics truly works that way everywhere.... Really we have to have faith that the universe is finite just for science to hold any meaning on a universal scale
Not everything is based on faith. Especially not the nature of the universe -- not in science, at least.
For example, science never argues that the universe is infinite. The assertion that it is has no proof and thus isn't consistent with the scientific method. In fact, observation shows us that it's expanding, which seems to contradict it being infinite.
Science holds meaning because it's about what we can observe. We cannot draw conclusions about the unobservable, so science doesn't really concern itself with that.
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
by Randsidia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:02 am
Holy Tedalonia wrote:I find the universe or the world far to much in our favor. And with that fortune in mind, makes me believe in god. Sure we may be lucky, but you can only be lucky so many times.
by Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:12 am
Randsidia wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:I find the universe or the world far to much in our favor. And with that fortune in mind, makes me believe in god. Sure we may be lucky, but you can only be lucky so many times.
I recommend watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8mJr4c66bs
"We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" - Il Duce Gianfranco Fini
by Randsidia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:23 am
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:The issue I have is what is it expanding into?Randsidia wrote:
Not everything is based on faith. Especially not the nature of the universe -- not in science, at least.
For example, science never argues that the universe is infinite. The assertion that it is has no proof and thus isn't consistent with the scientific method. In fact, observation shows us that it's expanding, which seems to contradict it being infinite.
Science holds meaning because it's about what we can observe. We cannot draw conclusions about the unobservable, so science doesn't really concern itself with that.
by Randsidia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:24 am
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
You act like most major religions suggest that we should ravage the planet
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