by Tokora » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:09 am
by Nova Corina » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:11 am
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:13 am
Tokora wrote:You always hear that you have to stay in the country to vote in the next election, but what about when that election is either rigged or never comes. What about when any kind of revolution is doomed to failure? Under what circumstances is it finally acceptable to abandon a country sliding into a dictatorship?
Mind you I don't honestly believe that America is that bad yet, but as I watch Brazil, Turkey, and central Europe I need to know when it's finally time to abandon ship.
Personally I think it's time to leave when your group is too small to have a chance of winning at all anymore.
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by Heloin » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:14 am
Tokora wrote:You always hear that you have to stay in the country to vote in the next election, but what about when that election is either rigged or never comes. What about when any kind of revolution is doomed to failure? Under what circumstances is it finally acceptable to abandon a country sliding into a dictatorship?
Mind you I don't honestly believe that America is that bad yet, but as I watch Brazil, Turkey, and central Europe I need to know when it's finally time to abandon ship.
Personally I think it's time to leave when your group is too small to have a chance of winning at all anymore.
by Tokora » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:15 am
Unithonia wrote:Tokora wrote:You always hear that you have to stay in the country to vote in the next election, but what about when that election is either rigged or never comes. What about when any kind of revolution is doomed to failure? Under what circumstances is it finally acceptable to abandon a country sliding into a dictatorship?
Mind you I don't honestly believe that America is that bad yet, but as I watch Brazil, Turkey, and central Europe I need to know when it's finally time to abandon ship.
Personally I think it's time to leave when your group is too small to have a chance of winning at all anymore.
When Bernie or Ocasio-Cortez is elected, if you are a private business owner like my uncle. Trust me, there's no such thing as a democratic socialist.
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:15 am
Heloin wrote:Tokora wrote:You always hear that you have to stay in the country to vote in the next election, but what about when that election is either rigged or never comes. What about when any kind of revolution is doomed to failure? Under what circumstances is it finally acceptable to abandon a country sliding into a dictatorship?
Mind you I don't honestly believe that America is that bad yet, but as I watch Brazil, Turkey, and central Europe I need to know when it's finally time to abandon ship.
Personally I think it's time to leave when your group is too small to have a chance of winning at all anymore.
My parents didn't take us out of Zimbabwe till 2009. There is really no point when you get the hell out of Dodge aside from the point you decide you can't take it anymore. Some people leave day one, some people take years, and some never leave. Hell, as soon as I can I'm heading back to my dictatorship even if I hate the government.
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:16 am
Tokora wrote:Unithonia wrote:When Bernie or Ocasio-Cortez is elected, if you are a private business owner like my uncle. Trust me, there's no such thing as a democratic socialist.
It might not have been politically Democratic but Yugoslavia was a pretty good place to live under Tito. Personally I don't think there's such a thing as a democratic capitalist, but that's besides the point.
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by Purpelia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:21 am
Unithonia wrote:Tokora wrote:It might not have been politically Democratic but Yugoslavia was a pretty good place to live under Tito. Personally I don't think there's such a thing as a democratic capitalist, but that's besides the point.
That can be disproved by America lol
Although, you aren't uber-capitalist, with all that welfare.
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:21 am
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by The Rapture Republic » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:21 am
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:22 am
Purpelia wrote:Unithonia wrote:That can be disproved by America lol
Although, you aren't uber-capitalist, with all that welfare.
America isn't a democracy though. It's an oligarchy. You literally have two establishment parties playing musical chairs for the government with any outsider having basically zero real chance of achieving anything.
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by Thermodolia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:22 am
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:23 am
Thermodolia wrote:Why leave when you can fight?
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:24 am
Thermodolia wrote:Why leave when you can fight?
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by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:25 am
The Rapture Republic wrote:Depends on the type of Dictatorship, tbh. If it’s communist, while I’m out. Anything else like Pinochet’s Chile or Myanmar, I’m completely fine with it.
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by Thermodolia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:25 am
Unithonia wrote:Purpelia wrote:America isn't a democracy though. It's an oligarchy. You literally have two establishment parties playing musical chairs for the government with any outsider having basically zero real chance of achieving anything.
It's a Republic
And I agree, but other parties aren't that great, besides Libertarians
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:26 am
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by The New California Republic » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:26 am
Unithonia wrote:Trust me, there's no such thing as a democratic socialist.
by Heloin » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:26 am
Unithonia wrote:Heloin wrote:My parents didn't take us out of Zimbabwe till 2009. There is really no point when you get the hell out of Dodge aside from the point you decide you can't take it anymore. Some people leave day one, some people take years, and some never leave. Hell, as soon as I can I'm heading back to my dictatorship even if I hate the government.
I have a friend from Zimbabwe who might discourage you from doing that, as you are white. He has people try to kill him 90% of days because he's white.
by Thermodolia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:27 am
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:28 am
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:30 am
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
by Unithonia » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:31 am
Conserative Morality wrote:You're supporting a sense of rationality over rational concerns, which would result in the conclusion that rationality is of no inherent benefit.
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