Altinsane wrote:Haha. God, what a character.
Genuinely laughed haha
True on more than one level really. We'll see if this is any different
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by Consular » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:06 am
Altinsane wrote:Haha. God, what a character.
by Lazarus IR Office » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:59 am
Government
Delegate: Imkiville
Vice Delegate: Treadwellia
Court Justices: Amerion, SheepShape
Ministers
Media and Events: New Rogernomics
Assistant Minister of M&E: Canton Empire
Interregional Relations: Your Imaginary Friend
Assistant Minister of IR: Lazarene Ryccia
Recruitment and Outreach: TempestShadow
Speaker: McChimp
Deputy Speaker: TempestShadow
by Drop Your Pants » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:46 am
by Imkiville » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:18 am
Drop Your Pants wrote:And I've been refused citizenship. Not overly surprising to be honest
by Lazarus IR Office » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:33 pm
by Alvalero » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:46 pm
by Dalimbar » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:51 pm
by The Holy Principality of Saint Mark » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:08 am
by Aenglaland » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:11 am
by Unibot III » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:59 am
Aumeltopia wrote:The South Pacific has no issues with the Corporation of Lazarus and holds no grudges against it or its delegate.
Imkiville wrote:2) Again showing your lack of knowledge. There is a challenge system, I can be removed from office if the assembly desires it, they vote on all appointments I propose to then and write the laws which they debate among themselves with very little input from me. New Rogernomics has also pointed this out but I notice how you completely ignore him. There are plenty of Lazarenes from all the various previous incarnations of our government in the region that are happy to work together. The ones that sit outside and cry about the lack of democracy instead of being involved to see what's actually going on are the ones that are upset they've lost their ability to subvert the region to their own end and I have absolutely no apologies to make for that. Defenders, raiders and neutrals, members past and present, are all welcome unless they've done something heinous or are a member of a hostile region.
1) Its fairly simple actually. It's called diplomacy and being a good delegate. I thought that was meant to be your thing? My personal dislike of certain elements of TSP is not Lazarus' problem as a whole and I'm not trying to make it one. I want them to be able to function as a region and be able to work with whomever they want and need, even after I am no longer delegate. I'm laying the foundations for that by not bringing my personal feelings in to it. I'm not so selfish as to make them pay for my pettiness. Are you suggesting TSP is?
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3) I have at no point pushed TSP or TRR away. The wolfist regime started that and stubborn refusal to accept that Lazarus is going to do it's own thing and not be some bestest best defender buddy anymore from certain people has continued it. Well, sounds like a them problem to me when all we've done it try and stay positive and rebuild. I'm trying to help the region be what they want to be, not what other regions want. People in Lazarus are mostly happy and working to make the region a better place. You are sitting in your lonely armchair complaining that your agenda isn't being met and trying to justify it with fake facts.
I'd be surprised if anyone listens to a word you say since everytime you mention anything about me or my region its been completely wrong. I can only assume the same for the rest of your asinine essays.
Ryccia wrote:And, as a TSPer, I detest when you defend us. It irritates me, it really does. If you really want to do us a favour, shut up already, or maybe even attack us. Having you vaguely associated with us is bad PR. Having you defend us when you should have shut up years ago is an affront to basic decency.
New Rogernomics wrote:Time for me to put my pre-PRL Lazarene cap on. Lazarus never had term limits prior to the PRL.
Pick up a book seriously though on political theory or a sociology dictionary. A system that is a defacto constitutional monarchy, with democratic means to remove said monarch, without consequence or punishment, is not a dictatorship. By the logic that is made here, the UK is a dictatorship, as the monarch is not elected, even though parliament can force the monarch out.
New Rogernomics wrote:As for The Pacific or NPO, if you are to criticize them, then do it right. That means actually bother to read their own constitution or dispatches. The NPO is not a dictatorship, but an oligarchic meritocracy, with a Senate. The New Pacific Order even make it easy to understand with their dispatches.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Pierconium » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:02 am
Unibot III wrote:If I criticize the NPO, I always do it right. And I have indeed read the NPO's "constitution" and curated and researched more NPO literature than I care to remember.
The NPO is not a meritocracy, it professes meritocracy - there is a difference. Nothing inherently requires merit in the appointment process. The NPO is led by a supreme Emperor, served by a Senate who serves at his pleasure. Characterizing the NPO as an "oligarchy," overlooks that nobody else is on an equal level as the Emperor. If the Emperor wants you gone, you're gone before you can take time for a piss. Senators are often removed and no explanation is needed or necessarily given. It's more Stalin, than Yeltsin.
The only thing I will say also is that the Emperor is not all powerful, per se, because of the external bureaucracy of the NPO beyond the NS NPO. In that way you might try to argue it's not a clear-cut dictatorship, but rather a governorship. But regardless, the Senate sits at the pleasure of the Emperor and the constitution can be unilaterally amended or dissolved by the Emperor.
by Altmoras » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:39 am
Unibot III wrote:Aumeltopia wrote:The South Pacific has no issues with the Corporation of Lazarus and holds no grudges against it or its delegate.
I've since been assured that the MoFA was speaking out of turn and mischaracterized TSP's position on Lazarus. TSP does not recognize the 'Corporation of Lazarus.'
by Killer Kitty » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:21 am
Unibot III wrote:Aumeltopia wrote:The South Pacific has no issues with the Corporation of Lazarus and holds no grudges against it or its delegate.
I've since been assured that the MoFA was speaking out of turn and mischaracterized TSP's position on Lazarus. TSP does not recognize the 'Corporation of Lazarus.'
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:07 am
by Killer Kitty » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:21 am
by Drop Your Pants » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:59 am
by Unibot III » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:38 am
Pierconium wrote:Unibot III wrote:If I criticize the NPO, I always do it right. And I have indeed read the NPO's "constitution" and curated and researched more NPO literature than I care to remember.
The NPO is not a meritocracy, it professes meritocracy - there is a difference. Nothing inherently requires merit in the appointment process. The NPO is led by a supreme Emperor, served by a Senate who serves at his pleasure. Characterizing the NPO as an "oligarchy," overlooks that nobody else is on an equal level as the Emperor. If the Emperor wants you gone, you're gone before you can take time for a piss. Senators are often removed and no explanation is needed or necessarily given. It's more Stalin, than Yeltsin.
The only thing I will say also is that the Emperor is not all powerful, per se, because of the external bureaucracy of the NPO beyond the NS NPO. In that way you might try to argue it's not a clear-cut dictatorship, but rather a governorship. But regardless, the Senate sits at the pleasure of the Emperor and the constitution can be unilaterally amended or dissolved by the Emperor.
Apologies to Lazarus for doing what several did within our Embassy by addressing non-Lazarene issues here.
A meritocracy does not mandate a democratic means of selection and the Emperor having ultimate authority to remove Senators does not preclude meritocratic ideals. It does perhaps mean that the definition of what is meritorious within the context of the Pacific shifts from Emperor to Emperor.
That said, the NS ‘branch’ of the NPO is independent of any supposed ‘external bureaucracy’. This external bureaucracy you address rests solely within the realms of offsite forum management and has zero input in how the government of the NPO in NS operates. Aleisyr selected LoD as his replacement as he deemed him the most meritorious member of the government following the recent missteps. No discussion with external bodies was held and none have ever been held in regards to who was selected to serve as Emperor of the NPO here.
Regardless, I have never stated that the NPO is not dictatorial in nature. It is a meritocratic autocracy, where the Emperor defines the goals of the government and appoints Senators based on merit within that framework.
Drop Your Pants wrote:Nice to see Cormac and Uni making grand decisions for other regions again, brings back the memories.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by North Prarie » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:43 am
Killer Kitty wrote:It is interesting, though, that TSP continues to maintain an embassy with a region it supposedly does not recognize in any way.
Then again, the "official position" of TSP might not be what Unibot claims it to be and he's just talking out of his ass. Again.
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by Unibot III » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:55 am
North Prarie wrote:Killer Kitty wrote:It is interesting, though, that TSP continues to maintain an embassy with a region it supposedly does not recognize in any way.
Then again, the "official position" of TSP might not be what Unibot claims it to be and he's just talking out of his ass. Again.
Yep. MoFA ambassador here (though not to Laz)-I don't know where 'we don't recognize Lazarus' came from. We made a point of being happy when Imki took over the Delegacy.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Killer Kitty » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:08 am
by Unibot III » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:15 am
Killer Kitty wrote:
Right then.
Then in that case it's a pretty safe assumption that absolutely no one with power in TSP actually told you that, Unibot. You just made up a lie to try and make it appear your words have backing and authority behind them when, in fact, you don't speak on behalf of TSP, you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're entirely powerless in this matter.
Thank you for confirming how irrelevant you are to this discussion, Unibot. You may leave now.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Killer Kitty » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:20 am
Unibot III wrote:I just don't want to rain hellfire on my contacts for their communication with me.
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