California Women's March cancelled for being too white

[LiberNovusAmericae]

What did they do to silence? Not enforcing quotas or being PC enough?

Not giving them a chance to speak for themselves.

Well minorities do that all the time.

[Vassenor]

Not giving them a chance to speak for themselves.

Well minorities do that all the time.

Do what?

[Shofercia]

Of course!

I'd love to see a source on that.

Let's say that you have a husband and wife who make a ton of money, and have a bunch of kids, their own and adopted. They have a huge mansion. So you could end up having 40 kids, when they turn 18, use the same address for voter registration. Strictly speaking, solely in terms of voter registration, how's a Native American Reservation any different? Or let's take a huge apartment complex, that decided to change its numerology system. During the duration of the change, all of the people living there have the same address, and packages are delivered by their last name. How's that any different than a Reservation?

A reservation is kind of different from a house or an apartment complex, I don't know if you know that.

In North Dakota, for example:

About 60 percent of Native Americans in North Dakota live on reservations -- where many residents lack street addresses because the U.S. Postal Service does not provide them residential delivery services.

So, many Native Americans use a P.O. box to receive their mail.

But, in order to vote in any election, you have to have a residential address. That wasn’t a problem in years past because there were other ways to prove your residency, like signing an affidavit or having a poll worker vouch for you.

But in 2013, the state legislature did away with those options -- making it harder to vote, especially for Native Americans who live on reservations.

“We have not been fully colonized to put everything in square streets and boxes,” said Phyllis Young, a Native American rights activist. “We live openly. So now we’re being forced to create streets and name addresses for our voting rights.”

San Diego County has quite a few Native American Reservations - 14 as of the 2010 census. The population varied from 1,315 to 55. Why shouldn't they be allowed to use the Reservation's address for voter registration? Native American Reservations don't have that many people living on them. Unless the Reservation spans several states, (in which case each state should have its own address,) I'm not seeing the issue.

Wait, now you're saying "why shouldn't they be allowed", while you previously said they could. Which is it? Can they, or do you think they should be able to?

I was talking about California. Obviously I'm not going to study voting rights in every state just to appease some online poster. There's nothing forbidding the Native Americans from doing that in California, as far as I know. And yes, I realize that a Reservation is different from an apartment complex, that's why I specifically used the language strictly speaking, solely in terms of voter registration which was obvious to anyone not being deliberately oblivious. An address is an address, or are you not aware of that? There's a specific community that assists Native American Registration in California: https://canativevote.org/

Also, if I say "why shouldn't hockey players be allowed to roller blade?" does that suddenly mean that hockey players aren't allowed to rollerblade? Of course not, and that'd be quite dumb to presume.

[The Black Forrest]

It's shooting yourself in the foot to acknowledge and act on criticism?

If your act is racist, yes.

So how was it racist?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Well minorities do that all the time.

Do what?

Speak for themselves. That should be obvious from the post.

[Vassenor]

If your act is racist, yes.

So how was it racist?

Honestly, it's getting quite tedious the number of people who keep intentionally misrepresenting these events just to push the "see how oppressed the white people are" thing.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

A black leader (Louis Farrakhan) involved in the march is an anti-Semite. Nice.

[Cannot think of a name]

So how was it racist?

Honestly, it's getting quite tedious the number of people who keep intentionally misrepresenting these events just to push the "see how oppressed the white people are" thing.

White and male fragility together are the science fair volcano or manufactured outrage.

[Vassenor]

Honestly, it's getting quite tedious the number of people who keep intentionally misrepresenting these events just to push the "see how oppressed the white people are" thing.

White and male fragility together are the science fair volcano or manufactured outrage.

So instead we get people loudly virtue signalling about how racist it is to put ethnic minority individuals on an equal stage with white ones.

[The Black Forrest]

A black leader involved in the march is an anti-Semite. Nice.

It's almost like protests don't require tickets to be a part of them.

[The Black Forrest]

White and male fragility together are the science fair volcano or manufactured outrage.

So instead we get people loudly virtue signalling about how racist it is to put ethnic minority individuals on an equal stage with white ones.

But don't ever call them racist.

[Vassenor]

A black leader involved in the march is an anti-Semite. Nice.

It's almost like protests don't require tickets to be a part of them.

But if one person like that is involved logically everyone must support it. Even if they're being roundly condemned for it.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

A black leader involved in the march is an anti-Semite. Nice.

It's almost like protests don't require tickets to be a part of them.

Well he is a head of an organization, not just a random dude. He also did cause some controversy for the group; it's in the article. I'm not making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

It's almost like protests don't require tickets to be a part of them.

But if one person like that is involved logically everyone must support it. Even if they're being roundly condemned for it.

I never said that nor implying that, but nice strawman. I'm making an observation, nothing more.

[Lanoraie II]

Imagine your skin color, your identity, and the collective identity of your friends being the reason something is cancelled--because you and your friends are wrong for existing.

[Cannot think of a name]

White and male fragility together are the science fair volcano or manufactured outrage.

So instead we get people loudly virtue signalling about how racist it is to put ethnic minority individuals on an equal stage with white ones.

Okay, so you know in movies where there is supposed to be a slick quick witted person...like Ryan Reynolds movies and shit...and their foil is supposed to be bumbling. Somewhere in act one they show that by the quick witted dude, the Ryan Reynolds type will lay out some insult to the foil, like a Patton Oswald type, fumbles to rearrange the insult back at the Reynolds type and everyone laughs at the Oswald type?

That's all I think of when they do that shit, try to use MLK quotes or cry oppression because someone else showed up etc.

[The South Falls]

Imagine your skin color, your identity, and the collective identity of your friends being the reason something is cancelled--because you and your friends are wrong for existing.

I mean, it doesn't make se se, but the event planner is alone.

[Shofercia]

When you cannot counter the point, you complain about stretching... what else is new?

Cool. Cool. Is pretending we have a storied history where you've managed to tag my 'go to moves' your thing?

I don't have to have a history with you to witness the poor quality of the posts you've made in this thread.

If you think that organizers should have less voice, simply because of their skin color - that's identity politics.

You...you know that this is being done by the organizers, right?

Yes, the very same organizers that demonstrated Cleveland Browns level of organization.

MLK Jr. was about fighting racism on all levels. That includes affirmative action based on skin color rather than socio-economic status. What was out of context about the line that I posted?

You know that this isn't a job, right? They aren't working for Eureka Womens March Incorporated. These are volunteers who are creating an event to raise awareness who have made an independent decision on their own to reach out to minorities to include their voice. Really, absolutely nothing you're saying applies here.

Again, MLK Jr's speech was about how race should not be a factor in how we treat other people, in the workplace, or outside of the workplace. Are you sure you actually read it?

It'll disenfranchise Native Americans only in the minds of fanatical liberals, since said proposal was easily fixed by simply allowing the Native Americans who live on Reservation to use the address of their Reservation, rather than their home address.

And why was that fixed? Because people made it a point. The system works!

It's not working in North Dakota.

LMAO! Yes, I can see it now, CTOAN in college on the day that the paper was due: "Professor, you see, I'm x skin color, and I just wanted to give myself a little extra time, perhaps a few weeks or a month to get it organized!"

Uh...what now?

My point was that they failed to hold the event when they originally planned it, and you're attempt to minimize that failure is most hilarious.

That might fly in college, but good luck with that logic in an actual workplace.

Okay, son. A few things. One, college is long, long behind me and I can tell you that most of what I did worked great so your advice is neither needed nor timely. Second, this is neither college nor a workplace, so your sage like advice...kinda misplaced, kid. Maybe take it down a notch, yeah?

Thankfully, I'm not your son. I am very thankful for that. It's also rather hilarious how you just told me that my advice wasn't timely, when part of the issue here is that their solution wasn't timely. Project much?

They should've done it BEFORE the originally planned date of the march. Not after.

Are they missing something by pushing it back a few months to coincide with a larger nationwide event? What crucial thing is happening in the next few months that pushing it back is a hand on forehead tragedy? I mean, literally no one gives a fuck except the people trying to manufacture outrage. What's the big deal?

Yeah, they missed the event. Also, you think I'm outraged, but I'm not; I'm laughing at their stupidity. I'm not manufacturing outrage; I'm making fun of people doing stupid things. This isn't new, I've been doing that for quite some time. If I am going to waste my time studying idiotic actions, I might as well get a good laugh in. Attempt at claiming "but muh opponentz b outraged!" denied.

And they shouldn't be using their skin color as an excuse. If I ask an employee to do something by January, and he/she doesn't do it, I can fire them. Even if they bring it to me by the end of February.

Okay, again...not a job. Not a college. Volunteer organizers putting together a march. And "skin color as an excuse" seems to be implying that they're using outreach as an excuse because someone forgot to file for a permit on time. You'll have to support that in order to keep using that line.

Again, when you're organizing an event, it's your job to be a good organizer. As you said, this isn't college where you learn from making mistakes. They knew of the issue well in advance, the issue being that they lacked minority outreach. They failed to act on that. Then they said "we failed, not just due to our time management skills, but because we planned it around white experiences!" If they properly planned it, they would've gotten other opinions before they had to cancel and/or postpone the event, and the event would've gone off without half the country laughing at them, and the other half pretending that those of us laughing are outraged.

In case you missed it, the march was already supposed to happen. It's been cancelled/postponed, because of their organizational failure. People can have organizational failure, irrespective of their skin color.

Cool. So what's the problem?

Problem is that they failed at their time management skills, and blamed it on their skin color.

It was supposed to happen. And then it was postponed and/or cancelled. If X says that X is going to give X's client a report, and X postpones said report, X failed to deliver the report on time. I really don't understand what is so hard to grasp about this basic point. They have the organizational skills of the Cleveland Browns, irrespective of their skin color.

Still not a job. Never a job.

Just like one's organizational skills do not depend on their skin color, one's organizational skill do not depend on whether they're working or not. You either know how to organize events, you don't, or you're still learning. Some poster going on and on and on about how it's never a job, doesn't change the point. I think that whomever lacks organizational skills, male, female, other individual, should spent more time in the kitchen, because when you're cooking several things, you better develop good organizational skills, or you can eat out all the time. But that's just an opinion.

Are we really here expressing our outrage...OUTRAGE! that volunteer organizers in a town with a population of less than 30,000 people are not organizing a parade efficiently enough to your liking? That seems extraordinarily petty.

Again, I'm laughing at it. You're the one who's outraged at my laughter, and are successfully projecting your outrage onto me. And you continue to make excuses, a city of less than 30,000, womp, womp, womp. If I fail to organize something, even a volunteer event, I don't make the lame excuse that I would've done a better job, if I had some inner city experience.

Once again: if the project is due in January, and you finish it correctly by the end of February, you failed. I'll give you an example that's more to your liking. If Republicans figure out how to counter ballot harvesting in April, and the election was last November, the Republicans don't get to annul the bills that were passed by the new Congress.

Cool story. Now relate it to what's actually happening, where it is not a job and there is no event or deadline they're missing other than the one they arbitrarily set.

There is a scheduled deadline. I didn't realize that I'd be quoting basic English terms, but here ya go: post·pone: cause or arrange for (something) to take place at a time later than that first scheduled.

It's only not making sense to you, because you seem unable to grasp the concept of deadlines.

I understand deadlines, kid. I just don't understand why you think this one was so hard and fast.

Never said it was fast. Also, not a kid. If I was a kid, would I be able to buy a yacht, and sail to Catalina on my own?

[Cannot think of a name]

Imagine your skin color, your identity, and the collective identity of your friends being the reason something is cancelled--because you and your friends are wrong for existing.

Alright, cool. Now tie that to actual events.

[Lanoraie II]

Imagine your skin color, your identity, and the collective identity of your friends being the reason something is cancelled--because you and your friends are wrong for existing.

Alright, cool. Now tie that to actual events.

What do you mean?

[Zapato]

Imagine your skin color, your identity, and the collective identity of your friends being the reason something is cancelled--because you and your friends are wrong for existing.

- "We are postponing this march because we want your perspective on it, as a member of a minority group. We want to be more inclusive and not leave you out."
- "Oh no, I'm wrong for existing"
- "That- that does not make any logical sense "

[Reploid Productions]

Given that the thread OP is now DOS and this thread has careened off the rails multiple times onto unrelated topics, think it's time we stick a fork in this one.

[Audioslavia]

I'm fairly certain you're just trolling, but....

Just a quick heads-up: If you suspect someone of being a troll, report them in the Moderation forum. Accusations of trolling shouldn't be thrown around elsewhere on the forum.

Cheers,

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