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For anyone concerned I'm relinquishing the M1 Garand, in favor of some obscure Swiss and Polish semi-autos. And since no one else has called it, I'm taking the FG 42 as the inspiration for an automatic rifle.

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Excelsior inspired tanks:

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was going to do isleballs for the two sides but I got kind of bored w it so here's a few NI nations without context because it's as far as I got

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I'd also like to reserve the Patten and Pershing tanks for later in the war. I also will be picking up the M1 Grand you dropped. I'll compile a list of weapons the OE has throughout the war.
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Negarakita wrote:Me and Altera (who are both dominions) did do co-op on the !Fairey Battle, for which art exists but afaik no factbook

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. I thought I did a dispatch, but perhaps I didn't ... did we agree one of us would write it?

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Postby Negarakita » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:19 pm

Alteran Republics wrote:
Negarakita wrote:Me and Altera (who are both dominions) did do co-op on the !Fairey Battle, for which art exists but afaik no factbook

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. I thought I did a dispatch, but perhaps I didn't ... did we agree one of us would write it?

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I can't remember, but it would probably make more sense of you did as I know very little about planes and stuff.
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Postby Corindia » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:40 pm

Razzgriz wrote:I'd also like to reserve the Patten and Pershing tanks for later in the war. I also will be picking up the M1 Grand you dropped. I'll compile a list of weapons the OE has throughout the war.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1007927
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Postby Cheoju » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:53 am

Out of curiosity, is there a canal at any location through the large island right of me (Cheoju is called Oschea at this point)? It would affect how vessels traversed through the southern region as whether they would have to venture further south before heading north again.

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Postby Alteran Republics » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:18 pm

Early war tanks, based on the British Cruiser tanks:

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Viking Mk.I (2 Pounder)

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Viking Mk.II (2 Pounder)

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Viking Mk.III (6 Pounder)

Envisioning them as early war "Ohsh*twe'rebeinginvadedsendallthearmour" vehicles for use throughout the Noronican Empire. Reserve armour that is obviously outdated but serving with home guard units. Not sure how'd they'd hold up ... other than very poorly.

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Postby Athara Magarat » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:55 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ath ... id=1148287

Going along with my history...I would request that eleven different nations set twelve different occupation zones.

Since we are neighbors and later on fought the 30th Parallel War, I say San Montagna occupied Chatha and Jaring regions. I could see Noronica being involved. I heavily encourage most Free Powers to have set their own occupation zone in Magarat region.
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Postby Dothrakia » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:47 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=athara_magarat/detail=factbook/id=1148287

Going along with my history...I would request that eleven different nations set twelve different occupation zones.

Since we are neighbors and later on fought the 30th Parallel War, I say San Montagna occupied Chatha and Jaring regions. I could see Noronica being involved. I heavily encourage most Free Powers to have set their own occupation zone in Magarat region.


I think a smart way to split it up would to go by the established hangates and combine a couple of the smaller ones to make it into 12. I could take Hangate 8 from your geographic map.

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:38 am

Athara Magarat wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/nation=athara_magarat/detail=factbook/id=1148287

Going along with my history...I would request that eleven different nations set twelve different occupation zones.

Since we are neighbors and later on fought the 30th Parallel War, I say San Montagna occupied Chatha and Jaring regions. I could see Noronica being involved. I heavily encourage most Free Powers to have set their own occupation zone in Magarat region.

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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:37 am

Dothrakia wrote:
I think a smart way to split it up would to go by the established hangates and combine a couple of the smaller ones to make it into 12. I could take Hangate 8 from your geographic map.

Yep. The three islands (Akar, Myagdi and Tiwe Sivn) could be one occupation zone. Eleven in mainland AM plus one more in Sawneeak Atoll.

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As mentioned earlier, Chatha and Jaring have always historically been claimed by San Montagnans.

Polar Svalbard wrote:I'm close, I can help a brother out.

Cool. That did be awesome. Maybe we even some Svalbardian influences heavy nowadays in that particular region...

And guys...do keep in mind that I am bigger than Germany in land area :P
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:19 am

At some point towards the end of the war there could be a Svalbardian naval invasion into Tamuwan.
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Postby Dothrakia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:28 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:
Dothrakia wrote:
I think a smart way to split it up would to go by the established hangates and combine a couple of the smaller ones to make it into 12. I could take Hangate 8 from your geographic map.

Yep. The three islands (Akar, Myagdi and Tiwe Sivn) could be one occupation zone. Eleven in mainland AM plus one more in Sawneeak Atoll.

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As mentioned earlier, Chatha and Jaring have always historically been claimed by San Montagnans.

Polar Svalbard wrote:I'm close, I can help a brother out.

Cool. That did be awesome. Maybe we even some Svalbardian influences heavy nowadays in that particular region...

And guys...do keep in mind that I am bigger than Germany in land area :P


I could take the Arun Valley region.

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Postby Razzgriz » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:39 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:
Dothrakia wrote:
I think a smart way to split it up would to go by the established hangates and combine a couple of the smaller ones to make it into 12. I could take Hangate 8 from your geographic map.

Yep. The three islands (Akar, Myagdi and Tiwe Sivn) could be one occupation zone. Eleven in mainland AM plus one more in Sawneeak Atoll.

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As mentioned earlier, Chatha and Jaring have always historically been claimed by San Montagnans.

Polar Svalbard wrote:I'm close, I can help a brother out.

Cool. That did be awesome. Maybe we even some Svalbardian influences heavy nowadays in that particular region...

And guys...do keep in mind that I am bigger than Germany in land area :P

Well you know the OE will occupy Tamsaling, though I'd want to push for Sinja and the northern portion of Maru bhumi, and Sawneak Atoll as well, as it would allow me to control a monopoly on both major routes of the Tensin Trail leading into my nation. An idea to attempt and establish a neo-Khas-Kirat Empire under the Ran dynasty with whatever Hangates I could get my hand on had crossed my mind, but a West Germany Route seems better for an overstretched OE.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:35 pm

Neat! So far so good.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:56 pm

Razzgriz wrote:Well you know the OE will occupy Tamsaling, though I'd want to push for Sinja and the northern portion of Maru bhumi, and Sawneak Atoll as well, as it would allow me to control a monopoly on both major routes of the Tensin Trail leading into my nation. An idea to attempt and establish a neo-Khas-Kirat Empire under the Ran dynasty with whatever Hangates I could get my hand on had crossed my mind, but a West Germany Route seems better for an overstretched OE.

Let's leave Marubhumi and Sinja for now, right. Other folks might be interested. If no one else does it, they can be yours :P
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Postby Dothrakia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:59 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:Neat! So far so good.

Is there a time period you want the occupation to end?

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Postby Athara Magarat » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:20 am

Dothrakia wrote:Is there a time period you want the occupation to end?

From 50s till 70s or 80s depending.

As for Arun Valley, it supposed to join the communist federation by 1969...so much sooner than the others.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:24 pm

Two things I want to say.

First, the Keomoran-Magarati Partition of San Montagna (this had been discussed a long time ago by three of us)...please bear with my bad drawings

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As the map shows, Chatha and Terra-Nuova (called Jaring in Magarat) were back then hangates that became part of Empire of Magarat. Nuovo Venezia, Giulia, Piesscana and Monte all have significant ahem...Khas-Kirati populations...and Magarati propaganda maintains that they should join Empire of Magarat, just like a significant portion of Domanania was recently occupied after the Doman-Magarati War (that will become yet another theater of the Imperial War).

The New Totzkan (Rio de Ouro as they were known back then) Invasion of Almorea is to commence simultaneously. Polar Svalbard could have come to the aid its southern neighbor Almorea against a Neo-Imperialist aggressor while Norstham could join the Ouro. While Dragao do Mar was never involved as a belligerent, the nation did have Neo-Imperialist sympathies and could have provided volunteers and supplies.

While the Free Powers are being distracted with the Almorean campaign, Keomoran and Magarati (maybe even from Belle Ilse en Terre) storm into San Montagna and partition it as depicted in map as quickly as possible. With San Montagnan conscripts, the Keomorans and Magaratis involve themselves in the Almorean campaign as well as Free Powers nations start backing Almorea.

Second, the canal. It was built by the Noronnicans and the Central Canal territory had been given to them back when they were on friendly terms with Magaratis. Now, the Battle for Central Canal could be one of the first conflicts here. Neo-Imperialists did want the canal.

Could it be that I occupied this Central Canal territory (but not the canal) directly above me during the Imperial War...It could have been one of the several occupation zones in Magarat post-Imperial War period after Neo-Imperialists are defeated. Maybe the territory is handed back to the Noronnicans who create the Central Canal Authority alongside other Free Powers...

Any ideas
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:17 am

Already the plan to go and aid Almorea.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:21 pm

Neat. I thank New Totzka for this map.

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Postby Oturia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:57 pm

There is no 4th Terrakie Empire.
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Postby Athara Magarat » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:52 am

On November 19th of 1940, the Oshakona tribe of the Yhai nomads from Viceroyalty of the Rio de Ouro (New Totzka) crossed the border into Almorea. Believing this to be an Ouronan invasion ordered by Viceroy Asygno Indra Amancio, Almorean patrols opened fire on the Yhai. The two sides exchanged gunfire for nine hours continuously. Both Viceroy Amancio and Almorean President William Valentine issued apologies for the violence and promised to withdraw their respective military units from the border.

However, peace was not to last. Rio de Ouro two major Neo-Imperialist allies, the Keomoran Empire and the Empire of Magarat, had been planning the invasion of San Montagna. Emperor Temur Buduja of Magarat had inked armistice with the Domananians and recalled veterans of the Doman-Magarati War to prepare for the invasion of his southern neighbor. Magarati and Keomoran diplomats continually urged Amancio to continue his hostilities with Almore lest Valentine pull the first move.

On December 25th of 1940, in what is now know as the "Christmas Deal", the leaders of the Neo-Imperialist powers met in secret and agreed to simultaneously carry out the Ouronan Invasion of Almorea and the Keomoran-Magarati Partition of San Montagna. Keomoran and Magarati leadership developed plans to occupy entire San Montagna in less than a month and redirect their efforts to Almorea. Norstham promised to help in the Almorean campaign as Polar Svalbard, Noronica and other Free Powers were more than likely to support Valentine. Dragao do Mar, though never officially a Neo-Imperialist power, offered to provide military access, supplies and even volunteers. Belle Ilse en Terre agreed to send its powerful fleets up north to take part in both campaigns.


Alright, so we have agreed till this part right...
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