NATION

PASSWORD

SC Questions & Answers

A chamber dedicated to the dissemination of inter-regional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Jakker
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 2934
Founded: May 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Jakker » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:55 pm

Tigrexia and Atzcapotzalco, both of you get an unofficial warning for spamming. You've both spammed in multiple threads and that needs to stop. Posts should only be made if they apply to the topic at hand. Please review our forum rules for posts moving forward.
Last edited by Jakker on Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
One Stop Rules Shop
Getting Help Request (GHR)

The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.

User avatar
Atzcapotzalco
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 18
Founded: May 14, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Atzcapotzalco » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:29 pm

Kuriko wrote:This thread is for SC related questions and answers, not the spam you are doing right now. Please stop spamming the thread.

I apoligize. But Tigrexia made me do it!
And remember! I am the senate!

Qa'pla!

#STARWARSRULES

User avatar
Frisbeeteria
Senior Game Moderator
 
Posts: 27796
Founded: Dec 16, 2003
Capitalizt

Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:09 pm

Atzcapotzalco wrote:Tigrexia made me do it!

And with that we'll go with an *** official warning for spamming ***. Knock it off before you lose your nation.

User avatar
Borisyukishvililand
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 8
Founded: Oct 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Borisyukishvililand » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:30 am

Why there's not wars?

User avatar
Cosmopolitan borovan
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1032
Founded: Jan 18, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:35 am

Borisyukishvililand wrote:Why there's not wars?

Because the security council is useless like the real United Nations all talk no action

User avatar
Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Aug 19, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:35 pm

Is there a way for us to petition for a new type of SC resolution to be made?

Would that go in technical?

For clarification, just to explore whether this would even be possible, I want there to be a SC resolution that stops certain nations from using telegram stamps if passed.

I have a particular Nazi region in mind that has been harassing the NS community over telegrams for nearly a year now.
Last edited by Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen on Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Kuriko
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1318
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kuriko » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:39 pm

Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen wrote:Is there a way for us to petition for a new type of SC resolution to be made?

Would that go in technical?

For clarification, just to explore whether this would even be possible, I want there to be a SC resolution that stops certain nations from using telegram stamps if passed.

I have a particular Nazi region in mind that has been harassing the NS community over telegrams for nearly a year now.

The admins will never go for that, as it's metagaming. If you look and search in technical though you will see many threads dedicated to talking about new SC types.
WA Secretary-General
TITO Tactical Officer of the 10000 Islands
Registrar-General and Chief of Staff of the 10000 Islands
LOVEWHOYOUARE~

Former TITO Tactical Officer
Former Commander of TGW, UDSAF, and FORGE
Proud founder of The Hole To Hide In
Person behind the Regional Officer resignation button
Person behind the Offsite Chat tag and the Jump Point tag
WA Character limit increase to 5,000 characters

User avatar
Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Aug 19, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen » Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:57 am

Kuriko wrote:
Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen wrote:Is there a way for us to petition for a new type of SC resolution to be made?

Would that go in technical?

For clarification, just to explore whether this would even be possible, I want there to be a SC resolution that stops certain nations from using telegram stamps if passed.

I have a particular Nazi region in mind that has been harassing the NS community over telegrams for nearly a year now.

The admins will never go for that, as it's metagaming. If you look and search in technical though you will see many threads dedicated to talking about new SC types.

I mean, passwords would by that very definition be metagaming as well then.

User avatar
Kuriko
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1318
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kuriko » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:58 am

Herzog Nequedum von Lokerzen wrote:
Kuriko wrote:The admins will never go for that, as it's metagaming. If you look and search in technical though you will see many threads dedicated to talking about new SC types.

I mean, passwords would by that very definition be metagaming as well then.

Uh, no. Passwords are a valid part of the game that the SC can effect. Stamps are bought using RL money and used for various things.
Last edited by Kuriko on Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
WA Secretary-General
TITO Tactical Officer of the 10000 Islands
Registrar-General and Chief of Staff of the 10000 Islands
LOVEWHOYOUARE~

Former TITO Tactical Officer
Former Commander of TGW, UDSAF, and FORGE
Proud founder of The Hole To Hide In
Person behind the Regional Officer resignation button
Person behind the Offsite Chat tag and the Jump Point tag
WA Character limit increase to 5,000 characters

User avatar
Expleserger
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 2
Founded: Dec 07, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Expleserger » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:38 pm

How do you gain population?

User avatar
Shwe Tu Colony
Senator
 
Posts: 4827
Founded: Sep 27, 2016
Democratic Socialists

Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:41 pm

Expleserger wrote:How do you gain population?


Exist. There's no other feature you can do that can affect population yet.
Last edited by Shwe Tu Colony on Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Cherissime amis! Behold, Shwe Tu Colony/World Machine/WoMac, the paracosm of a spoiled brat, taking everything, sparing nothing, mingling the childhood incroyable with the angst of a young man.
Current status: university rules are just a suggestion
"The summer grass is getting in the way"
Extension

User avatar
Bears Armed
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21475
Founded: Jun 01, 2006
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:03 am

Expleserger wrote:How do you gain population?

It comes with time, whatever you do, as long as your nation stays in existence. The amount gained per day increases in several steps during the first few weeks, until it reaches +(5-7 million, randomly determined each time) per day. Nothing except time affects it, not even Issues that look as though they should have relevant effects...
Last edited by Bears Armed on Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

User avatar
Kuriko
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1318
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kuriko » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:08 pm

Since this was talked about in the WA discord, think I'll ask moderation here. Is listing three co-author nations controlled by the authoring nation legal, or do co-authors need to be seperate individuals?
WA Secretary-General
TITO Tactical Officer of the 10000 Islands
Registrar-General and Chief of Staff of the 10000 Islands
LOVEWHOYOUARE~

Former TITO Tactical Officer
Former Commander of TGW, UDSAF, and FORGE
Proud founder of The Hole To Hide In
Person behind the Regional Officer resignation button
Person behind the Offsite Chat tag and the Jump Point tag
WA Character limit increase to 5,000 characters

User avatar
Wrapper
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 6020
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wrapper » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:49 pm

The rules are very specific in that they say co-authors have to be separate nations, ones who have contributed to the text of the proposal. There’s nothing in the rules mentioning that those nations have to be controlled by different players, nor can I find any previous rulings mandating as such.

User avatar
Kuriko
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1318
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kuriko » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:46 pm

Wrapper wrote:The rules are very specific in that they say co-authors have to be separate nations, ones who have contributed to the text of the proposal. There’s nothing in the rules mentioning that those nations have to be controlled by different players, nor can I find any previous rulings mandating as such.

Thanks for the clarification Wrapper, although if/when co-author badges are added to the game I can see it getting abused. On another note, I have a different question. I'm probably missing this in Vancouvia's thread, but mentioning Wiki and factbooks is legal in C&C's?
WA Secretary-General
TITO Tactical Officer of the 10000 Islands
Registrar-General and Chief of Staff of the 10000 Islands
LOVEWHOYOUARE~

Former TITO Tactical Officer
Former Commander of TGW, UDSAF, and FORGE
Proud founder of The Hole To Hide In
Person behind the Regional Officer resignation button
Person behind the Offsite Chat tag and the Jump Point tag
WA Character limit increase to 5,000 characters

User avatar
Wrapper
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 6020
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wrapper » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:06 pm

“Factbook” (as in “World Factbook Entry” or “WFE”) has always been legal, as explicitly stated in the rulings compendium. As for ‘wiki’, it’s in the dictionary as a common noun, so that’s legal too.

User avatar
Kuriko
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1318
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kuriko » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:08 pm

Wrapper wrote:“Factbook” (as in “World Factbook Entry” or “WFE”) has always been legal, as explicitly stated in the rulings compendium. As for ‘wiki’, it’s in the dictionary as a common noun, so that’s legal too.

But in the case of Commend Ponderosa its clearly referring to the dispatch kind of factbook. Or, at least that's how I see it. As for Wiki, thanks for clearing that up :)
WA Secretary-General
TITO Tactical Officer of the 10000 Islands
Registrar-General and Chief of Staff of the 10000 Islands
LOVEWHOYOUARE~

Former TITO Tactical Officer
Former Commander of TGW, UDSAF, and FORGE
Proud founder of The Hole To Hide In
Person behind the Regional Officer resignation button
Person behind the Offsite Chat tag and the Jump Point tag
WA Character limit increase to 5,000 characters

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:11 pm

I mean, Factbook as a regular word still at least sounds like something you could call published information IC

User avatar
Ransium
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 6788
Founded: Oct 17, 2006
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:45 pm

I think it's covered by this:

Any term included within NationStates the game - eg. passwords, World Factbook Entries, founders, eject, 'black helicopters transporting nations between regions' - legal (see here, here, here, here and here)

Commended by SC 236,
WA Delegate of Forest from March 20th, 2007 to August 19, 2020.
Author of WA Resolutions: SC 221, SC 224, SC 233, SC 243, SC 265, GA 403, GA 439, GA 445,GA 463,GA 465,
Issues Editor since January 20th, 2017 with some down time.
Author of 27 issues. First editor of 44.
Moderator since November 10th 2017 with some down time.

User avatar
Bears Armed
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21475
Founded: Jun 01, 2006
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:14 am

Wrapper wrote:The rules are very specific in that they say co-authors have to be separate nations, ones who have contributed to the text of the proposal. There’s nothing in the rules mentioning that those nations have to be controlled by different players, nor can I find any previous rulings mandating as such.

There's certainly GA precedent, anyway: I listed St Edmund, which had created the 'historical' resolution, as co-author when Bears Armed Mission produced the current version of 'Meteorological Cooperation' (which became GAR #87)... Same player, and legality confirmed by at least one Mod before it went to vote.
However, in that case the co-author listed had actually been responsible for drafting & sponsoring the original version, which became 'historical resolution' #148, whereas Bears Armed Mission was responsible for the GA's expanded version. What did the 'co-authors separately contribute in this case?
Last edited by Bears Armed on Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

User avatar
Wrapper
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 6020
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Wrapper » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:26 pm

Fris has closed the co-author puppetry loophole and made an official ruling on it here. I’ll add this to the rulings compendium in the coming days (when I’m at a PC; making such changes from an iPad are not easy).

User avatar
South World
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 52
Founded: Nov 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby South World » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:18 am

Is commendations and condemnations all the SC does? If you are mad enough to condemn, can we impose an embargo. If you like someone enough to commend them, just give them favored nation trading status. If there is no result for commendation an condemnation, what is the point?
Gun control is not about guns, it’s about control.
Speedin

User avatar
Borovan entered the region as he
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1115
Founded: Dec 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:35 am

South World wrote:Is commendations and condemnations all the SC does? If you are mad enough to condemn, can we impose an embargo. If you like someone enough to commend them, just give them favored nation trading status. If there is no result for commendation an condemnation, what is the point?

There's liberations. Liberations free up the borders so liberators can move in the region.

Embargoes cannot be imposed since the functions of the security council are limited. Same for favored status. It's more symbolic. It would be nice to to have effect on trade but you would need to canonize and fully develop the character of every nation. Some people reject NS stats and don't have factbooks and trade by itself alone will not be fully beneficial without other nation characteristics.

User avatar
Aureumterra
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8521
Founded: Oct 25, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Aureumterra » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:12 pm

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=456182

I recently drafted this proposal and feedback I’ve gotten suggest that I cannot refer to “Roleplay” as such. However, reading over the rules, the closest thing I can find is to not refer to NS as a game

Can anyone confirm this? And if possible, some feedback on how to word the proposal differently to fit with rules?
NS Parliament: Aditya Sriraam - Unity and Consolidation Party
Latin American Political RP
RightValues
Icelandic Civic Nationalist and proud
I’m your average Íslandic NS player
I DO NOT USE NS STATS!
A 12 civilization, according to this index.
Scary Right Wing Capitalist who thinks the current state of the world (before the pandemic) is the best it had been

User avatar
Kuriko
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1318
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kuriko » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:26 pm

Aureumterra wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=456182

I recently drafted this proposal and feedback I’ve gotten suggest that I cannot refer to “Roleplay” as such. However, reading over the rules, the closest thing I can find is to not refer to NS as a game

Can anyone confirm this? And if possible, some feedback on how to word the proposal differently to fit with rules?

Rule 4 prohibits certain words from being used, such as Roleplay, and can be found in the mod rulings thread Here. Most times to get around the fact Roleplay is an illegal term people word it differently, such as saying things like "dedication to international relations" and stuff. You want to write it from an IC perspective, not an OOC perspective.
WA Secretary-General
TITO Tactical Officer of the 10000 Islands
Registrar-General and Chief of Staff of the 10000 Islands
LOVEWHOYOUARE~

Former TITO Tactical Officer
Former Commander of TGW, UDSAF, and FORGE
Proud founder of The Hole To Hide In
Person behind the Regional Officer resignation button
Person behind the Offsite Chat tag and the Jump Point tag
WA Character limit increase to 5,000 characters

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Security Council

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads