[Suggestion] Economic Freedom on the Homepage

[Care Lyon]

Me and Care Lyon both have that description, despite him being a whole 20 points ahead of me in that category.

I have been an Anarchy for a long, long time. I think one issue changed that a few days ago. But I should return back to an Anarchy soon.

[VoVoDoCo]

I Agree
+1

At least I've convinced 1/3 people lmao I'll take it.

[VoVoDoCo]

I'm not trying to squeeze every stat into every homepage. But our WA classifications are divided into 3 equally important parts, one of those, for some reason, require investigation to figure out. Or you have to make assumptions based on the rest of the homepage, which we've proven can be faulty at best.

Look, you're honestly making this out to be a much more difficult endeavor than it is. I really don't know what to say on this. Category and the economy chart are enough to give you a basic overview of economic policy, save the finer details, in only a few seconds of opening the tab. I only need to make one click to see that a nation is socialist, for example.

Clintonburge is kind of an aberrant case, and an example of NS being sort of dumb. At any rate, a nation with a very odd economic system should require some level of investigation for one to grasp it. The economic freedom stat sure doesn't cut it.

Me and Care Lyon both have that description, despite him being a whole 20 points ahead of me in that category.

You're almost identical in terms of private sector activity as percentage of GDP, being what that line is referring to. Your nation is at 92.8% and Care Lyon at 95.1%.

Perhaps "investigation"was a hyperbole. But I disagree that the current data is enough and that it misses the finer details. The current data can't even help us realize that Care is a borderline Anarchy.

I'm on my phone now. When I get home and I have access to a computer I'll post a few other benefits. But in summary, not all changes to the game have tio to improve efficiency and function, for instance ways to improve loading speed.

Some of it's just about overall game experience. And wheni get home,I'll pay the ways it can do just that.

[Aclion]

I'm for it. First the economy stat has nothing to do with classification, that's economic freedom. And i've lost track of the number of times i've seen someone confused about classifications because they thought that it was the economy stat that mattered(or the economic freedom stat that's displayed) because it's on the nation page along with two of the stats that do affect it. Heck I was one of those people. That alone justifies the switch for me.

Additionally the economy stat is sort of useless on it's own for getting a feel of a nations economy. That's why there is an entire paragraph on the nation page already devoted to the subject.

[VoVoDoCo]

Me and Care Lyon both have that description, despite him being a whole 20 points ahead of me in that category.

I have been an Anarchy for a long, long time. I think one issue changed that a few days ago. But I should return back to an Anarchy soon.

Exactly. Nations that are straddling two different WA classifications would benefit from the clarity of adding the econ. freedom stat.

[VoVoDoCo]

I'm for it. First the economy stat has nothing to do with classification, that's economic freedom. And i've lost track of the number of times i've seen someone confused about classifications because they thought that it was the economy stat that mattered(or the economic freedom stat that's displayed) because it's on the nation page along with two of the stats that do affect it. Heck I was one of those people. That alone justifies the switch for me.

I feel dumb for not even thinking about that. I too have seen a few NS Veterans who learned only after a few years the truth behind these NationStates stats. Good point.

[Karteria]

I don't know if economic freedom is the best stat for it but I agree that there should be more distinction in the types of economies on the homepage.

[VoVoDoCo]

I don't know if economic freedom is the best stat for it but I agree that there should be more distinction in the types of economies on the homepage.

I would argue it is. It is one of the three stats that make up your WA classification and is the most telling when it comes to the types of policies you have enacted and will enact. It'll also put to rest the confusion as to what the three stats on our homepage mean.

[VoVoDoCo]

Sorry for the break, but as promised, here's the other point I was gonna bring up (now that I have my compuer)

Also, it'd allow players to get more attached to those critical stat changes. If civil rights gets so high you "improve" (depending on what you're going for I guess lol), that's a fun time. Same with political freedoms. And with economic strength. With economic freedom, it'd be the same thing:

Civil Rights: Widely Abused, Frightening, Excessive, World Benchmark, Superb, Excellent, Very Good, Good, Average, Below Average, Some, Few, Rare, Unheard of, Outlawed.

Political Freedoms: Corrupted, Widely Abused, Excessive, World Benchmark, Superb, Excellent, Very Good, Good, Average, Below Average, Some, Few, Rare, Unheard of, Outlawed.

Economic Liberties: Unregulated, Frightening, Excessive, World Benchmark, Superb, Excellent, Very Good, Good, Average, Below Average, Some, Few, Rare, Suffocated, Outlawed.

You'd get to see yourself "level up" or "level down" on yet another stat, meaning it would happen more frequently. This would allow for an even more engaging experience with your policy choices.

[The Liberated Territories]

fix my economy due to your crappy programming damnit

[VoVoDoCo]

fix my economy due to your crappy programming damnit

Pull your nation up by its bootstraps.

[Techgrade]

I like this, Full support for It being a thing

[VoVoDoCo]

Appreciate it

[Australian rePublic]

I agree. The difference between economy and economic freedom is confusing. Economic freedom on homepage would clear that up

[Hammer Britannia]

I personally agree, but for different reasons.

It's hard to tell the difference between an Ancom and an Ancap. Oh wait, there is none

Jokes aside, I think Australian rePublic said it best

I agree. The difference between economy and economic freedom is confusing. Economic freedom on homepage would clear that up

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I agree. The difference between economy and economic freedom is confusing. Economic freedom on homepage would clear that up

I also agree. I mistaken economy for economic freedom when I first looked at that feature.

[VoVoDoCo]

I agree. The difference between economy and economic freedom is confusing. Economic freedom on homepage would clear that up

I also agree. I mistaken economy for economic freedom when I first looked at that feature.

Most new people do. It's important for newbies to get up to speed as quick as possible. The current system hinders that effort, rather than facilitate it.

[Techgrade]

Definitely, when i first started nationstates i was so confused...
But i think that it could get mistaken with economy, so if it is added i would just say that it should be after political freedoms

[VoVoDoCo]

Definitely, when i first started nationstates i was so confused...
But i think that it could get mistaken with economy, so if it is added i would just say that it should be after political freedoms

Funny you bring that up. I know coding is much harder than photoshopping, but it would definitely fit in.

But it's definitely not a stretch.

[Hammer Britannia]

Definitely, when i first started nationstates i was so confused...
But i think that it could get mistaken with economy, so if it is added i would just say that it should be after political freedoms

Funny you bring that up. I know coding is much harder than photoshopping, but it would definitely fit in.

But it's definitely not a stretch.

Side note: Nice photoshop.

[Techgrade]

Yeah i reckon It may be a bit confusing to younger players, or beginners though.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I disagree. My economic freedom stat is inaccurate and it fluctuates in weird ways.

[Former Citizens of the Nimbus System]

Fully supportive of this. It makes no sense and has never made sense to me that the triad is left incomplete.

I disagree. My economic freedom stat is inaccurate and it fluctuates in weird ways.

I'd argue that that's a problem with the way that NS handles its statistics (or your perception of that) rather than the UI.

[Techgrade]

definitely agree with that, overall this thread is such a good idea

[Merconitonitopia]

Alright then. Where would it go on the page?

That's the main problem I'm having with this. We can't put it next to the other three, because there isn't enough space, and it would look much to cluttered.
Moreover, it would make the Economy indicator seem out of place. One non-freedom-related indicator just sort of shoehorned in there next to three freedom indicators.

Where else could we put it?

Edit: Then again, this doesn't look too terrible.