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Postby Valrifell » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:09 am



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Deeply frustrating that he claims vindication for not seeing "collusion" in a heavily redacted recommendation to the court, even moreso that people buy this shit.
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People are going big on this "Individual 1" thing.


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Ifreann wrote:People are going big on this "Individual 1" thing.


*chuckles*

Good catch.
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Postby Individual 1 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:35 am

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Good catch.


May I recommend the Individual 1 pledge of allegiance (found in our lone factbook). It has the necessary catch phrases.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:49 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:The last of the adult supervision.

We President of the Flies now.

Oh Lord!

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:56 am

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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:10 pm



Just as I was starting to lose focus/interest in the probe, it appears we've seen some bombshells this past week or two. I'm quite intrigued to see how this will end.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 pm

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Just as I was starting to lose focus/interest in the probe, it appears we've seen some bombshells this past week or two. I'm quite intrigued to see how this will end.

Mueller is professional. Not trying to get attention with the probe.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:18 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Just as I was starting to lose focus/interest in the probe, it appears we've seen some bombshells this past week or two. I'm quite intrigued to see how this will end.

Mueller is professional. Not trying to get attention with the probe.


Its' still been a highly political, highly polarizing probe. There's always going to be attention directed towards it, both from supporters and adamant opponents. I myself lost focus with it because it seemed to be moving at a snail's pace. I recognize that the probe was never meant to be particularly swift and fast-moving, but whenever substantive information comes from Mueller's probe, it's always something of a pleasant surprise for me.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:21 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:Mueller is professional. Not trying to get attention with the probe.


Its' still been a highly political, highly polarizing probe. There's always going to be attention directed towards it, both from supporters and adamant opponents. I myself lost focus with it because it seemed to be moving at a snail's pace. I recognize that the probe was never meant to be particularly swift and fast-moving, but whenever substantive information comes from Mueller's probe, it's always something of a pleasant surprise for me.

It's actually going pretty quickly in overall terms. Hasn't even been 2 years.

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Just as I was starting to lose focus/interest in the probe, it appears we've seen some bombshells this past week or two. I'm quite intrigued to see how this will end.

Yeah, there have been some major trial things this week.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:01 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:03 pm

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Yeah, Austria-Hungary and Germany were just trying to create a European army. That’s the sole reason for both wars. And it didn’t work out, so that’s game over I guess.

Shall we tell him how nationalism worked out for Europe?

Depends. Nationalism is how several nations came about like Italy and Poland
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:17 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Yeah, Austria-Hungary and Germany were just trying to create a European army. That’s the sole reason for both wars. And it didn’t work out, so that’s game over I guess.

Shall we tell him how nationalism worked out for Europe?

Depends. Nationalism is how several nations came about like Italy and Poland

Of course. But 19th century nationalism is a profoundly different ideology from 20th century nationalism. 19th century nationalism was about a shared culture, language and history, and creating a nation around that. Literally nation-building, nationalism as opposed to imperialism and anarchism. 19th century nationalism was profoundly liberal, in the sense that nationalists sought to codify national laws and create a constitution, empowering parliaments to speak on behalf of the nation as opposed to foreign dynasts.

20th century nationalism is an extension of 19th century nationalism. It's about a mythical past that unites the nation, but is also marred by views of exceptionalism. The idea that the own nation is the best nation, and that outsiders should be barred. A national union based on the exclusion of others, and a national will not communicated through a parliament and codification of rules, but translated and heralded by a single leader speaking on behalf of the people, with disdain for a constitution and national parliaments. I have much respect for the nationalist movements of the 19th century, but I feel that the term has been marred by the 20th century movements.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:16 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Mueller is professional. Not trying to get attention with the probe.


Its' still been a highly political, highly polarizing probe. There's always going to be attention directed towards it, both from supporters and adamant opponents. I myself lost focus with it because it seemed to be moving at a snail's pace. I recognize that the probe was never meant to be particularly swift and fast-moving, but whenever substantive information comes from Mueller's probe, it's always something of a pleasant surprise for me.


The only way this investigation is moving slowly is if you put it in the context of a super volatile political landscape or a culture with an attentionspan of microseconds.

...

...oh.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:29 pm

Vassenor wrote:...what did I miss?)


Mueller's reccomendation with sentencing for Manafort and Cohen (I think).
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Vassenor wrote:...what did I miss?)

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Postby Duhon » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:44 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Depends. Nationalism is how several nations came about like Italy and Poland

Of course. But 19th century nationalism is a profoundly different ideology from 20th century nationalism. 19th century nationalism was about a shared culture, language and history, and creating a nation around that. Literally nation-building, nationalism as opposed to imperialism and anarchism. 19th century nationalism was profoundly liberal, in the sense that nationalists sought to codify national laws and create a constitution, empowering parliaments to speak on behalf of the nation as opposed to foreign dynasts.

20th century nationalism is an extension of 19th century nationalism. It's about a mythical past that unites the nation, but is also marred by views of exceptionalism. The idea that the own nation is the best nation, and that outsiders should be barred. A national union based on the exclusion of others, and a national will not communicated through a parliament and codification of rules, but translated and heralded by a single leader speaking on behalf of the people, with disdain for a constitution and national parliaments. I have much respect for the nationalist movements of the 19th century, but I feel that the term has been marred by the 20th century movements.


On behalf of the one nation, to the exclusion of minorities within that nation not only from the political sphere but from all avenues of public life altogether.

Without recognizing the dignity of persons perceived as differing from the national polity, or indeed making life hard for them at every turn, the nationalisms of the nineteenth century were doomed to extend themselves towards eliminationist impulses.

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Vassenor wrote:...what did I miss?)

Headfirst into a political abyss!

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