La Navasse wrote:The proposal Liberate USSD shall be put on hold due to voter fatigue
Can this be applied to the rest of your liberations too?
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by Alkasia » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:51 am
La Navasse wrote:The proposal Liberate USSD shall be put on hold due to voter fatigue
Koth wrote:Alk resembles some sort of slime mold that asexually reproduces scum, as is standard for XKI natives
Cormactopia Prime wrote:You're silly. I miss the XKI veterans who knew how to appropriately deal with raiders.
Kanglia wrote:Can confirm lynching Alk is the most satisfying thing. :p
Sarakart wrote:What a time to be alive. Welcome to the legislative revolution, the liberation wars have begun.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:"Something you thought you'd never see for $3000, Alex."
by Grossdeutsche Demokratische Republik » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:58 pm
by North Saitama » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:24 pm
by La Navasse » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:02 am
by Indo-Malaysia » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:44 pm
La Navasse wrote:USSD is a widely-blacklisted region across NationStates, and has many repulsive qualities. However, I find no reason to essentially bring attention to a region that isn't exactly deserving of any Neoliberation, or indeed any sort of recognition for its atrocious acts, especially in light of its invasion of The Monarchist Entente. Therefore, I have Shelved this proposal and will end any support or campaign for this draft.
by Isvataan » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:34 am
Indo-Malaysia wrote:La Navasse wrote:USSD is a widely-blacklisted region across NationStates, and has many repulsive qualities. However, I find no reason to essentially bring attention to a region that isn't exactly deserving of any Neoliberation, or indeed any sort of recognition for its atrocious acts, especially in light of its invasion of The Monarchist Entente. Therefore, I have Shelved this proposal and will end any support or campaign for this draft.
That didn't stop you with Nazi Europa though did it?
by La Navasse » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:02 pm
La Navasse wrote:USSD is a widely-blacklisted region across NationStates, and has many repulsive qualities. However, I find no reason to essentially bring attention to a region that isn't exactly deserving of any Neoliberation, or indeed any sort of recognition for its atrocious acts, especially in light of its invasion of The Monarchist Entente. Therefore, I have Shelved this proposal and will end any support or campaign for this draft.
by Kuriko » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:28 pm
by La Navasse » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:37 pm
Kuriko wrote:Here we go again
by New Bremerton » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:37 pm
by Kaboomlandia » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:58 pm
by Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:19 am
by La Navasse » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:48 am
New Bremerton wrote:For the liberation of USSD, for the same reason I'm for the liberation of CCD. Also for the liberation of Amestris for derailing Repeal Preventing the Execution of Innocents the first time it was submitted. Raiding simply for the sake of raiding should absolutely be condemned. Never heard of Farkasfalka. My RL interventionist outlook informs my aggressive position on liberations. Authoritarianism and illiberalism are on the rise, and "interfering in our internal affairs" is a line frequently trotted out by authoritarian regimes IRL, giving them carte blanche to murder their own people with impunity, and I'm sick of it. I also have a personal vendetta against authoritarianism, having lived under its thumb for many years.
Such regimes are not worthy of having their sovereignty respected and ideally should be utterly destroyed if possible. Unfortunately, RL has its share of unintended consequences, and we can't simply invade and destroy all of these regimes IRL, but we CAN do so to ideologically similar regions in NS with minimal repercussions. We mustn't allow them to fester and grow. We must nip them all in the bud before they even have a chance to destroy us all.
Kaboomlandia wrote:How about we don’t try this again, considering nobody supported this idea the last time? It hasn’t exactly gotten more popular.
by Devi » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:24 am
by Jar Wattinree » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:19 am
La Navasse wrote:Farkafalka is the direct successor to The Iron Order, an infamous medium sized fascist region with reported Nazi tendencies, cloaked under a sham "decreeist" government. Although the region itself does not have much history, its predecessor has, and when I was previously on my anti-fascist drafting spree, they appeared to change regions to avoid an offensive liberation. I think there's potentially sufficient evidence to offensively liberate under the actions the region has done as The Iron Order, but I am currently listening for further discussion to determine whether the concept is plausible.
by Kaboomlandia » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:33 pm
by Lord Dominator » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:45 pm
Kaboomlandia wrote:Also, I wonder how many delegates have you blocked from last time?
by Vetelo » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:39 pm
by La Navasse » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:25 pm
I understand that I've had a reputation of pushing through multiple offensive Liberations at a time; however, this time around I intend to space them out by passing a General Assembly proposal between each offensive Liberation to reduce potential voter apathy. The Cloning Conventions will be my first post-retirement proposal to be submitted, after which would be Liberate USSD.Devi wrote:You realise that your being the author of these resolutions probably isn't going to help their chances, regardless of what merit they may or may not have, right?
The Iron Confederacy is actually a separatist movement from Farkasfalka, which is inspired by The Iron Order before it was merged into Farkasfalka. Although The Iron Confederacy could be considered as TIO's present incarnation, I would prefer to Liberate Farkasfalka.Jar Wattinree wrote:La Navasse wrote:Farkafalka is the direct successor to The Iron Order, an infamous medium sized fascist region with reported Nazi tendencies, cloaked under a sham "decreeist" government. Although the region itself does not have much history, its predecessor has, and when I was previously on my anti-fascist drafting spree, they appeared to change regions to avoid an offensive liberation. I think there's potentially sufficient evidence to offensively liberate under the actions the region has done as The Iron Order, but I am currently listening for further discussion to determine whether the concept is plausible.
The Iron Confederacy is TIO's new successor state.
The preemptive liberation against CCD has guaranteed the immediate vulnerability of the region when the Founder is either deleted or ceases to exist, and an active Founder only increases the possibility that the nation may be deleted. If the "strong backup plan" includes sharing of the Founder region, that would increase the possibility of the nation's deletion as well. Therefore, I would consider for the Liberation to be thriving in that it has fully fulfilled its purpose of increasing regional vulnerability to a significant extent. On the topic of delegates who have blocked me, many have already changed since then, and I've planned to pair each offensive liberation with a companion General Assembly resolution for variety and to decrease voter apathy.Kaboomlandia wrote:The pre-emptive liberation against CCD isn't "thriving" no matter how much you try and spin it. Not only has absolutely no action been taken against the region since then, but I cannot foresee any action ever coming. The second-place nation in endorsements has 120, which is pretty much out of the realm of possibility. A liberation is just not practical in this circumstance, with an active founder and a strong backup plan.
Also, I wonder how many delegates have you blocked from last time?
I will be removing the term "Stalinist," but due to Caelapes' criticisms rather than yours:Vetelo wrote:I think if you're going to try this again, then you should probably take the criticisms received when you first made this thread and apply them. The USSD does not have any one ideology, and "Stalinist" in no way describes how our region operates. A part of our government is directly elected and transparent, I wouldn't really call that "Stalinist". So maybe go think of some actual reasons to liberate us. Not that I expect this resolution to ever pass, but it's a minor nuisance to our region at best anyways. We only password during Z-Day. I'm not quitting this game anytime soon, and if I do, I will hand my founder nation over to someone who I trust.
Furthermore, an offensive liberation is proposed with the express understanding that the Founder is either likely to cease to exist or be deleted due to the various qualities of the region that cause it to be offensively liberated in the first place.Caelapes wrote:USSD isn’t isolated because they are trying to apply “Socialism in one country” to NationStates as opposed to Trotsky’s theory of permanent revolution. They don’t have a coherent ideology beyond building up a cult of personality around toxic behavior. They aren’t “Stalinist” because nothing they do relates to Marxism-Leninism, which was the actual ideology practiced in the Soviet Union under Stalin’s leadership.
by Kaboomlandia » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:33 pm
La Navasse wrote:The preemptive liberation against CCD has guaranteed the immediate vulnerability of the region when the Founder is either deleted or ceases to exist, and an active Founder only increases the possibility that the nation may be deleted. If the "strong backup plan" includes sharing of the Founder region, that would increase the possibility of the nation's deletion as well. Therefore, I would consider for the Liberation to be thriving in that it has fully fulfilled its purpose of increasing regional vulnerability to a significant extent. On the topic of delegates who have blocked me, many have already changed since then, and I've planned to pair each offensive liberation with a companion General Assembly resolution for variety and to decrease voter apathy.Kaboomlandia wrote:The pre-emptive liberation against CCD isn't "thriving" no matter how much you try and spin it. Not only has absolutely no action been taken against the region since then, but I cannot foresee any action ever coming. The second-place nation in endorsements has 120, which is pretty much out of the realm of possibility. A liberation is just not practical in this circumstance, with an active founder and a strong backup plan.
Also, I wonder how many delegates have you blocked from last time?
by Borovan entered the region as he » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:42 pm
by La Navasse » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:14 pm
Kaboomlandia wrote:La Navasse wrote:The preemptive liberation against CCD has guaranteed the immediate vulnerability of the region when the Founder is either deleted or ceases to exist, and an active Founder only increases the possibility that the nation may be deleted. If the "strong backup plan" includes sharing of the Founder region, that would increase the possibility of the nation's deletion as well. Therefore, I would consider for the Liberation to be thriving in that it has fully fulfilled its purpose of increasing regional vulnerability to a significant extent. On the topic of delegates who have blocked me, many have already changed since then, and I've planned to pair each offensive liberation with a companion General Assembly resolution for variety and to decrease voter apathy.
1. Playing the long game as you theorized has not worked here, and the region has gotten at least 50% more endorsements on their WAD since the lib passed, and the backup delegate is now about where the original WAD was at the time of the lib endorsement-wise, with about 120 endos.
2. Even if the founder CTEs, you and what army is going to pull this off, especially considering most of the larger raider orgs likely still remember Dank Memes?
3. Delegates blocking all campaign telegrams happens and isn't often something that just gets taken off, and unless CTEing has something to do with it I don't know many people would have specifically removed you from their block list.
4. Your last sentence forces me to question whether you a) actually know how to write a GA resolution and b) actually think that idea will work.
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Against. The last offensive liberation or neoliberation, against the coailtion of fascist nations failed,
I don't think these will passed just because of a founder being blacklisted and having a stalinist ideology. Also many people don't know about farkasfalka is. Its not as known as CCD where they ended up annoying people or nazi europa.
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by Kaboomlandia » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:42 am
by La Navasse » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:58 pm
Kaboomlandia wrote:Navasse, your responses to my questions are showing that you have no real plan to see this through. I don't know if you plan on actually raiding these regions, but just throwing this at the wall and hoping someone else decides they want to randomly bring together an army of 90 people and actually spend time trying to attack USSD. I question whether you actually have the expertise to pull off that military operation. There is no "long game" because you don't have a plan at all.
As well, using a different nation for campaigning that still has your name on it isn't going to change people's opinions on you.
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