But that doesn't mean we should turn America into a military dictatorship like Loben wants.
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by Bombadil » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:09 pm
by Telconi » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:44 pm
Senkaku wrote:Telconi wrote:
The point is, if we don't wanna end up like Europe, we should do something different from what they do right?
Ohh this is part of your whole authoritarian schtick okay
Well, I guess it all depends on your fuckin interpretation, Tel, so draw the conclusions you wanna draw or whatever lol
by Northern Davincia » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:19 pm
Hurricania Imperium wrote:Valrifell wrote:
Friendly reminder that Prussia no longer exists at all, so.
Actually...
https://micronations.wiki/wiki/Free_Sta ... ew_Prussia
Oh, and...
http://prussiankingdom.com/
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by Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:54 pm
by Duhon » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:56 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Man, if only there were some sort of website or forum type thing where people could just make their own nations and then fantasy roleplay whatever their weird theoretical governance they wanted and piss on each other about the merits and problems with their pet political fantasy and then, in a little corner marked "General" maybe, discussions of real world events and politics could take place.
by Duhon » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:59 pm
Loben wrote:Senkaku wrote:I mean, like, I wouldn't agree with just advocating for a junta for it's own sake either- but saying that we need to do it to avoid being "soft" or whatever like the Europeans, while simultaneously acknowledging that that perceived softness is a direct result of Europe's experiences with militarism and authoritarianism seems... counterintuitive.
Unless the idea is that THIS dictatorship really will finally be the one that successfully lasts for 10,000 years or whatever lol which is even dumber
at least i dont want to target minorities.
by Jerzyland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:29 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Man, if only there were some sort of website or forum type thing where people could just make their own nations and then fantasy roleplay whatever their weird theoretical governance they wanted and piss on each other about the merits and problems with their pet political fantasy and then, in a little corner marked "General" maybe, discussions of real world events and politics could take place.
by Telconi » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:40 pm
by Valrifell » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:51 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Man, if only there were some sort of website or forum type thing where people could just make their own nations and then fantasy roleplay whatever their weird theoretical governance they wanted and piss on each other about the merits and problems with their pet political fantasy and then, in a little corner marked "General" maybe, discussions of real world events and politics could take place.
by Tarsonis » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:31 pm
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by Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:52 pm
by Ifreann » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:05 pm
by Jerzylvania » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:10 pm
by Telconi » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:17 pm
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by Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:36 pm
The biting words came after Tillerson, in an appearance at a charity event in Houston, said their relationship soured over Trump’s repeated demands that Tillerson do things that were illegal.
“So often, the president would say, ‘Here’s what I want you to do, and here’s how I want you to do it,’ ” Tillerson said at a fundraiser for the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, in his first public remarks about his truncated tenure since he was let go in March.
“And I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President, I understand what you want to do. But you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,’ ” he said.
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In his remarks, Tillerson did not offer any specific examples of which requests he deemed illegal. He said he offered to work to change the law, but that apparently did not curb Trump’s frustration.
“I’d say, ‘Here’s what we can do,’ ” Tillerson said. “ ‘We can go back to Congress and get this law changed. And if that’s what you want to do, there’s nothing wrong with that.’ I told him, ‘I’m ready to go up there and fight the fight, if that’s what you want to do.’ ”
by Neutraligon » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:40 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Ah, context...The biting words came after Tillerson, in an appearance at a charity event in Houston, said their relationship soured over Trump’s repeated demands that Tillerson do things that were illegal.
“So often, the president would say, ‘Here’s what I want you to do, and here’s how I want you to do it,’ ” Tillerson said at a fundraiser for the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, in his first public remarks about his truncated tenure since he was let go in March.
“And I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President, I understand what you want to do. But you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,’ ” he said.
...
In his remarks, Tillerson did not offer any specific examples of which requests he deemed illegal. He said he offered to work to change the law, but that apparently did not curb Trump’s frustration.
“I’d say, ‘Here’s what we can do,’ ” Tillerson said. “ ‘We can go back to Congress and get this law changed. And if that’s what you want to do, there’s nothing wrong with that.’ I told him, ‘I’m ready to go up there and fight the fight, if that’s what you want to do.’ ”
by Ifreann » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:48 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Ah, context...The biting words came after Tillerson, in an appearance at a charity event in Houston, said their relationship soured over Trump’s repeated demands that Tillerson do things that were illegal.
“So often, the president would say, ‘Here’s what I want you to do, and here’s how I want you to do it,’ ” Tillerson said at a fundraiser for the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, in his first public remarks about his truncated tenure since he was let go in March.
“And I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President, I understand what you want to do. But you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,’ ” he said.
...
In his remarks, Tillerson did not offer any specific examples of which requests he deemed illegal. He said he offered to work to change the law, but that apparently did not curb Trump’s frustration.
“I’d say, ‘Here’s what we can do,’ ” Tillerson said. “ ‘We can go back to Congress and get this law changed. And if that’s what you want to do, there’s nothing wrong with that.’ I told him, ‘I’m ready to go up there and fight the fight, if that’s what you want to do.’ ”
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