by Riakou » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:21 am
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by The New California Republic » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:34 am
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by Auristania » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:48 am
by Ifreann » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:53 am
by Riakou » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:35 am
Ifreann wrote:It's my understanding that Hitler was about to kill himself after the Beer Hall Putsch, but someone convinced him not to. If I was going to go back in time to kill Hitler, I'd find that person and delay them or distract them or somehow prevent them from being in the right place at the right time so that Hitler would kill himself.
Time travel mission 2: "Accidentally" bump into Gavrilo Princip to stop him from crossing paths with Franz Ferdinand.
by Andsed » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:39 am
by Ethel mermania » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:53 am
by Andsed » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:55 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Kill hitler? I think we should try, convict and execute litterbugs. Yeah sure, one dead Hitler coming up.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:09 am
Andsed wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Kill hitler? I think we should try, convict and execute litterbugs. Yeah sure, one dead Hitler coming up.
One problem with killing Hitler. His ideas and view of purity and such were not unique he was just a really good politician. Killing him may just bring in someone worse than Hitler.
by Hrythingia » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:11 am
Ifreann wrote:It's my understanding that Hitler was about to kill himself after the Beer Hall Putsch, but someone convinced him not to. If I was going to go back in time to kill Hitler, I'd find that person and delay them or distract them or somehow prevent them from being in the right place at the right time so that Hitler would kill himself.
Time travel mission 2: "Accidentally" bump into Gavrilo Princip to stop him from crossing paths with Franz Ferdinand.
by Ifreann » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:13 am
Riakou wrote:Ifreann wrote:It's my understanding that Hitler was about to kill himself after the Beer Hall Putsch, but someone convinced him not to. If I was going to go back in time to kill Hitler, I'd find that person and delay them or distract them or somehow prevent them from being in the right place at the right time so that Hitler would kill himself.
Time travel mission 2: "Accidentally" bump into Gavrilo Princip to stop him from crossing paths with Franz Ferdinand.
Yes, the one which you're referring to is Helene Hanfstaengl, ironically an American immigrant to Germany.
So you believe that if you try to limit your involvement as much as possible so its not by your hand per se, then effect would be less damaging overall?
Andsed wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Kill hitler? I think we should try, convict and execute litterbugs. Yeah sure, one dead Hitler coming up.
One problem with killing Hitler. His ideas and view of purity and such were not unique he was just a really good politician. Killing him may just bring in someone worse than Hitler.
Alvecia wrote:Without knowing the exact outcome, I don’t think I could be convinced to change history.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:16 am
by Alvecia » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:16 am
Ifreann wrote:Riakou wrote:
Yes, the one which you're referring to is Helene Hanfstaengl, ironically an American immigrant to Germany.
So you believe that if you try to limit your involvement as much as possible so its not by your hand per se, then effect would be less damaging overall?
No, I think that these are convenient ways to prevent wars without having to personally kill anyone.Andsed wrote:One problem with killing Hitler. His ideas and view of purity and such were not unique he was just a really good politician. Killing him may just bring in someone worse than Hitler.
This seems to presume it to be historically inevitable that the Nazis would take power in Germany and that whoever happened to be leading them would become the Fuhrer.Alvecia wrote:Without knowing the exact outcome, I don’t think I could be convinced to change history.
Well if changing history doesn't work out you can always go back in time and stop yourself from changing history.
by Alvecia » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:16 am
Alvecia wrote:Ifreann wrote:No, I think that these are convenient ways to prevent wars without having to personally kill anyone.
This seems to presume it to be historically inevitable that the Nazis would take power in Germany and that whoever happened to be leading them would become the Fuhrer.
Well if changing history doesn't work out you can always go back in time and stop yourself from changing history.
Oh no, that’d get too recursive
by Andsed » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:17 am
Ifreann wrote:Riakou wrote:
Yes, the one which you're referring to is Helene Hanfstaengl, ironically an American immigrant to Germany.
So you believe that if you try to limit your involvement as much as possible so its not by your hand per se, then effect would be less damaging overall?
No, I think that these are convenient ways to prevent wars without having to personally kill anyone.Andsed wrote:One problem with killing Hitler. His ideas and view of purity and such were not unique he was just a really good politician. Killing him may just bring in someone worse than Hitler.
This seems to presume it to be historically inevitable that the Nazis would take power in Germany and that whoever happened to be leading them would become the Fuhrer.Alvecia wrote:Without knowing the exact outcome, I don’t think I could be convinced to change history.
Well if changing history doesn't work out you can always go back in time and stop yourself from changing history.
by Ifreann » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:18 am
Hrythingia wrote:Ifreann wrote:It's my understanding that Hitler was about to kill himself after the Beer Hall Putsch, but someone convinced him not to. If I was going to go back in time to kill Hitler, I'd find that person and delay them or distract them or somehow prevent them from being in the right place at the right time so that Hitler would kill himself.
Time travel mission 2: "Accidentally" bump into Gavrilo Princip to stop him from crossing paths with Franz Ferdinand.
That would not have stopped WWI tbh, armed conflict was well on the way and only a matter of time on the continent.
by Andsed » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:20 am
Ifreann wrote:Hrythingia wrote:That would not have stopped WWI tbh, armed conflict was well on the way and only a matter of time on the continent.
But it would have prevented our WWI from happening. If something else kicks off a continental war instead, I can check what set that in motion and prevent that too.Andsed wrote:Yes it might work out better than reality but it also might end up much worse. Do you really want to take that risk?
If you can time travel then there is no risk. Keep changing the variables of the past until you get the best, or least bad, present.
by Hrythingia » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:20 am
Ifreann wrote:Hrythingia wrote:That would not have stopped WWI tbh, armed conflict was well on the way and only a matter of time on the continent.
But it would have prevented our WWI from happening. If something else kicks off a continental war instead, I can check what set that in motion and prevent that too.Andsed wrote:Yes it might work out better than reality but it also might end up much worse. Do you really want to take that risk?
If you can time travel then there is no risk. Keep changing the variables of the past until you get the best, or least bad, present.
by Valrifell » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:24 am
Hrythingia wrote:Ifreann wrote:But it would have prevented our WWI from happening. If something else kicks off a continental war instead, I can check what set that in motion and prevent that too.
If you can time travel then there is no risk. Keep changing the variables of the past until you get the best, or least bad, present.
Sometimes you have to let the can lid off and let the fizz out. Europe was going to explode into war by some means or other.
by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:25 am
Yeah unless i know exactly what is going to happen as a result i dont think i would do it.Alvecia wrote:Without knowing the exact outcome, I don’t think I could be convinced to change history.
by Andsed » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:26 am
Ifreann wrote:Hrythingia wrote:That would not have stopped WWI tbh, armed conflict was well on the way and only a matter of time on the continent.
But it would have prevented our WWI from happening. If something else kicks off a continental war instead, I can check what set that in motion and prevent that too.Andsed wrote:Yes it might work out better than reality but it also might end up much worse. Do you really want to take that risk?
If you can time travel then there is no risk. Keep changing the variables of the past until you get the best, or least bad, present.
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