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by Sanjurika » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:45 am
by Neo Domais » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:53 am
Sanjurika wrote:How fun... Anyone else want popcorn?
by Syberis » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:23 am
RiderSyl wrote:Astarial wrote:Myrth is hiding behind duality, folks. You're never going to get a straight answer out of him.
For those of you who weren't around when the NPO fabricated the idea, it can basically be summed up as pretending that the different nations you control are completely separate with no overlap and no bias. If EuroFounder did something, well, goshdarnit, Myrth certainly didn't have any influence, and it was solely and entirely because the identity of EuroFounder considered it to be the best thing to do.
If that sounds like crap, it's because it absolutely is, and duality is a notion fell out of vogue some time ago.
EuroFounder is clearly a tulpa of Myrth.
Zaolat wrote:WHO THE F*** IS SYBERIS
by Kranostav » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:26 am
Unibot III wrote:Astarial wrote:Myrth is hiding behind duality, folks. You're never going to get a straight answer out of him.
For those of you who weren't around when the NPO fabricated the idea, it can basically be summed up as pretending that the different nations you control are completely separate with no overlap and no bias. If EuroFounder did something, well, goshdarnit, Myrth certainly didn't have any influence, and it was solely and entirely because the identity of EuroFounder considered it to be the best thing to do.
If that sounds like crap, it's because it absolutely is, and duality is a notion fell out of vogue some time ago.
He actually hasn't denied being EuroFounder at all in any of these posts if you parse his sentences closely and literally, looking for non sequiturs and such. **** Which is admirably classic NPO. ****
Also there's a real duality at play here, I think. The rumour has always been that there are two co-owners of EuroFounder: Myrth and an unknown player. The joke (and in all reality, general practice) in the GA back in the day was to always ask EuroFounder twice for things when the delegate needed permission. If he/she refused the first time, the second player often countermanded the first refusal. This inevitably would get us in loads of shit when Myrth would come online and countermand the aboutface with violent urgency. I experienced this many a time...
by Cormactopia Prime » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:45 am
Statement from the Emperor on Current Affairs and Appointments
On Current Affairs
It is no secret that the past few days have been tumultuous and quite frankly, exhausting for everyone. Amidst the chaos our Emperor Aleisyr and Consul Pergamon made the decision to retire, the former appointing me as his successor.
For those of you you do not know me I will say this. I have been a member of NPO for almost ten years, though mostly beyond the confines of NationStates. Across our fifteen year history, my name could be argued among the top few most influential Pacificans. My leadership style is, however, vastly different than what many here are accustomed to. It is direct, filled with change, open within circumstances, and engaging, leading to some to nickname me "The People's Emperor."
We have much work ahead of us. Together we will restore the New Pacific Order to its proper place as a shining beacon and example to all. Our actions will affect every nation and region for the better. (Sorry, I'm afraid that involves no coups or takeovers.)
On that note please keep Aleisyr endorsed while we continue to build up my (East Durthang) endorsements. Instructions to join the world assembly can be found here.
Even with all the accusations and hate being levied against us we must remain united and supportive of each other. It is not Pacifican to succumb to petty arguments and hate spewing from the mouths of our opponents and we will remain quiet until cooler heads prevail. We must also remember that our opponents themselves are not innocent when it comes to taking over other regions, propping up/enabling shady characters, or conducting espionage. Yesterday we outed several spies who leaked content and information from our member only areas related to the current happenings.
We, like anyone, have undoubtedly made mistakes in the past. It is unfortunate that our opponents resorted to launching a preemptive attack intended to seize control of our protectorate, St Abbaddon (whose governance is at the discretion of their own leadership rather than ours), rather than attempting to air their grievances diplomatically. The New Pacific Order does not condone inappropriate out-of-character activities and has always worked to remove anyone discovered to have partaken in them. We do, however, recognize that we are not always aware of the full details surrounding such actions and thus cannot always make perfect decisions, nor can we always pay attention to where they or their aliases may go. Nonetheless we will be working to streamline our efforts in this regard and others going forward.
I look forward to the day when we can sheath our swords and return to an era of peace, strength, and prosperity. Ever forward! Pacifica prevails!
If you would like a less disruptive environment to chat with fellow members consider signing up for citizenship on our offsite forum and joining our Discord server.
Forum: https://ns.npowned.net/forum
Discord: https://discord.gg/g5x6UZ4
Appointments
I do hereby appoint Comrades Jar Wattinree and Xoriet as Tribune and Legatus, respectively, in the Pacifican senate. Jar will oversee our courts and legal system while Xoriet will oversee our foreign affairs.
I do hereby appoint our recently returned, retired Regent The Seeker of Power to the rank of Deputy Legatus in the Diplomatic Corps.
I do hereby appoint Comrade CaveDweller to Jar's former position as Governor of Province Ardere.
Congratulate them when you see them.
If you have any questions don't hesitate to contact myself or one of our other government officials.
East Durthang
(Lord of Darkness)
Emperor of the New Pacific Order
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:50 am
Cormactopia Prime wrote:The Emperor of the New Pacific Order, East Durthang, issued the following statement to the Pacific by telegram this morning:
Statement from the Emperor on Current Affairs and Appointments
On Current Affairs
It is no secret that the past few days have been tumultuous and quite frankly, exhausting for everyone. Amidst the chaos our Emperor Aleisyr and Consul Pergamon made the decision to retire, the former appointing me as his successor.
For those of you you do not know me I will say this. I have been a member of NPO for almost ten years, though mostly beyond the confines of NationStates. Across our fifteen year history, my name could be argued among the top few most influential Pacificans. My leadership style is, however, vastly different than what many here are accustomed to. It is direct, filled with change, open within circumstances, and engaging, leading to some to nickname me "The People's Emperor."
We have much work ahead of us. Together we will restore the New Pacific Order to its proper place as a shining beacon and example to all. Our actions will affect every nation and region for the better. (Sorry, I'm afraid that involves no coups or takeovers.)
On that note please keep Aleisyr endorsed while we continue to build up my (East Durthang) endorsements. Instructions to join the world assembly can be found here.
Even with all the accusations and hate being levied against us we must remain united and supportive of each other. It is not Pacifican to succumb to petty arguments and hate spewing from the mouths of our opponents
and we will remain quiet until cooler heads prevail.
We must also remember that our opponents themselves are not innocent when it comes to taking over other regions,
propping up/enabling shady characters,
or conducting espionage.
Yesterday we outed several spies who leaked content and information from our member only areas related to the current happenings.
We, like anyone, have undoubtedly made mistakes in the past. It is unfortunate that our opponents resorted to launching a preemptive attack intended to seize control of our protectorate, St Abbaddon (whose governance is at the discretion of their own leadership rather than ours), rather than attempting to air their grievances diplomatically.
The New Pacific Order does not condone inappropriate out-of-character activities and has always worked to remove anyone discovered to have partaken in them.
We do, however, recognize that we are not always aware of the full details surrounding such actions and thus cannot always make perfect decisions, nor can we always pay attention to where they or their aliases may go. Nonetheless we will be working to streamline our efforts in this regard and others going forward.
Karenus: (they don't know Comrade Sarah = Attero?)
Nakari: tart tart tart tart tart
[Ark: I don't think there are any WAs left for me to endo :/
Pergamon: It's public knowledge at this point Karenus
Pergamon: you missed a whole lot
Pergamon: ^^^^
Pergamon: @Karenus
Pergamon: We didn't rat him out however
Pergamon: he fucked himself
Karenus: I mean, they're talking like it wasn't
Pergamon: we kept our word
When he returned, he returned under the persona of Bradley and I figured out his identity, I simply remembered his meltdowns of the past and told him not to fuck up this time. I didn't understand the hate in general against him, but I thought if other organizations would deem him unwelcome they would do so after finding out that behind this alternate persona of Bradley, would be the player of Block. I just didn't want to be a total ass to him, in a way I was feeling pity how outcast he was. I didn't want to tell him on everyone because I knew how unpopular he was. He tried to play NationStates with me again, which I refused. He tried to get intelligence about the New Pacific Order from me, on which I told him to buzz off. Nothing more happened.
I look forward to the day when we can sheath our swords and return to an era of peace, strength, and prosperity. Ever forward! Pacifica prevails!
If you would like a less disruptive environment to chat with fellow members consider signing up for citizenship on our offsite forum and joining our Discord server.
Forum: https://ns.npowned.net/forum
Discord: https://discord.gg/g5x6UZ4
Appointments
I do hereby appoint Comrades Jar Wattinree and Xoriet as Tribune and Legatus, respectively, in the Pacifican senate. Jar will oversee our courts and legal system while Xoriet will oversee our foreign affairs.
I do hereby appoint our recently returned, retired Regent The Seeker of Power to the rank of Deputy Legatus in the Diplomatic Corps.
I do hereby appoint Comrade CaveDweller to Jar's former position as Governor of Province Ardere.
Congratulate them when you see them.
If you have any questions don't hesitate to contact myself or one of our other government officials.
East Durthang
(Lord of Darkness)
Emperor of the New Pacific Order
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Neo Domais » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:55 am
by Darkesia » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:31 am
by Cormactopia Prime » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:36 am
Darkesia wrote:<snip>
by Armaros » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:49 am
Appointments
I do hereby appoint Comrades Jar Wattinree and Xoriet as Tribune and Legatus, [...] while Xoriet will oversee our foreign affairs.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:55 am
Armaros wrote:Appointments
I do hereby appoint Comrades Jar Wattinree and Xoriet as Tribune and Legatus, [...] while Xoriet will oversee our foreign affairs.
Ehm... Just a question, but what foreign affairs are you exactly talking about? Last time I checked, basically every ally just left you or is considering a response. Not much foreign affairs left to oversee.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Neo Domais » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:11 am
Yeah I doubt these new appointees will actually attempt fix this Dumpster fire. I thought of a few more things in response to this "statement". 1st: I like how they made there official statement through a TG witch was then leaked. 2nd thing why does the NPO always point at everyone else but them selves. Well they murdered someone so it is okay for us to do the same. 3rd thing we generally only raid inactive or dead regions, the NPO is willing to raid active regions. They forced the Warzone Confederation to have a civil war over the closure of an embassy that the NPO wanted closed but the delegate did not. This civil war was forced as we did not wish for the NPO to raid us.Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Armaros wrote:
Ehm... Just a question, but what foreign affairs are you exactly talking about? Last time I checked, basically every ally just left you or is considering a response. Not much foreign affairs left to oversee.
"Minister Of Propaganda, Gaslighting, Denial, And Blustering Through Objections Until People Get Tired Of Them" doesn't have the same ring.
by Unibot III » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:19 am
It is direct, filled with change, open within circumstances, and engaging, leading to some to nickname me "The People's Emperor."
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Solorni » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:29 am
by Neo Domais » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:35 am
Myrth wrote:I love the smell of impotent rage in the morning.
by The Holy Principality of Saint Mark » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:41 am
Darkesia wrote:I'm only saying this out of a broken heart. (Also, be aware this is Darkesia speaking, not TWP. They are seeing this for the first time as well)
The Pacific has held my heart for a long time and it still does. However, I am finished with this mutated, cancerous NPO.
For years I have watched as well intentioned Emperor Pierconium began to export the culture and comraderie of the NPO and NationStates out to other game universes. It was fun at a time when NS II (cursed be it's name) was failing and nations craved a place to rally and compete against other teams. But it didn't stop there. Across game platforms, the NPO has been mutated and corrupted into an unrecognizable entity that is hostile and disrespectful to all of NationStates and the NSverse. They draw their strength of numbers from conscripted players of other game platforms. Those players create placeholder nations which do not participate in the NationStates game universe. They do not understand the community or the politics or the game itself. Yet, here we treat them as if they were native to NationStates and are shocked when they behave as the aliens they are.
And now, they have appointed an emperor from outside the NSverse. I consider this the ultimate insult to the Pacific.
So, while nations scramble to shout about Francoism (which died years ago) and chant slogans to end the NPO, I refuse. I refuse, because the NPO no longer exists in NationStates. This thing which calls itself the NPO is a corruption from outside the NSverse.
I call for the rescue of our glorius original feeder region. I call for the separation of The Pacific from the NPO. Make The Pacific part of NationStates again, rather than a colony of those other game platforms!
Please.
by Myrth » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:47 am
Solorni wrote:I would have thought that as the self proclaimed direct "People's Emperor", he would have addressed the people of gameplay and their concerns directly.
by Solorni » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:50 am
by Glacikaldr » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:54 am
Solorni wrote:Myrth wrote:
People of the Pacific. Unless you want him as your Emperor as well. We can arrange this if you'd like.
Actually, a much more worthwhile investment would be to read this: Golden Rules of PR Crisis Management. You can thank me later
by Imperium of Josh » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:54 am
by Armaros » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:07 am
Solorni wrote:I would have thought that as the self proclaimed direct "People's Emperor", he would have addressed the people of gameplay and their concerns directly.
by Neo Domais » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:13 am
That's what I got from his TG he sent me when I offered a treaty. It is his point of view.Armaros wrote:Solorni wrote:I would have thought that as the self proclaimed direct "People's Emperor", he would have addressed the people of gameplay and their concerns directly.
I think he first wants to restore order at home before he comes with the usual half assed apologies.
Shitposting aside, it is actually understandable he doesn't immediatley rush to gameplay; hes not even delegate yet. So this isn't really an arguement. As much as I hold against the NPO, this isn't a real issue IMO.
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